Need help with light armor build

DevonicAngel - Lost City · November 2010

I want to make a veno that can defend herself well in pvp. I heard a light armor build was best. so tell me your light armor builds and your opinions of it please

sleepcat · November 2010

Light Armor isn't particularly the best, but it's relatively more usable in foxform compared to Vit Arcane and Pure Arcane builds. If I remember correctly, it's 1 str, 1 dex, 3 mag per level or something like that. You'd want to shard citrines on the LA pieces, maybe use the highest str helm you can with your stat points at the level, and use the highest magic weapon you can at your current level. Some people use it as a cheaper stepping stone before restating to HA/AA or pure HA after 9x. It's mainly used early on when people don't really bother to shard or refine their armor, but prefer the survivability versus physical damage, which is partially where the PvP thing comes in. It comes at the cost of having less magic potential but that happens with all trade offs.

So yea, that's a brief overview of the build for you. This sticky is written from the perspective of an LA Veno user, but it's really old and probably outdated. You would probably still want to read those HA/AA and Arcane/Robe guides just to confirm this is the right choice for you. Feel free to ask further questions about anything I missed.

DevonicAngel - Lost City · November 2010

just heard about vit-arcane, whats a good build for that?

Meyki - Sanctuary · November 2010

Satisfy your AA requirements, your magic weapon requirements, put rest in the vit to boost your hp. I don't know how many points per level it is but I bet you can look up this problem easily.

sleepcat · November 2010

Vit Arcane is just pretty much putting most of your spare points after meeting minimum str and mag requirements for current level gear until Vit instead. Some people prefer spreading some of the points into Mag still, and just mixing different amounts into Vit and Mag. The advantage to this is that you can shard Garnets into your armor instead to boost physical defense since your HP is covered by all the Vit, which is a bit cheaper than Citrines, although in my server, Garnet and Citrine prices are pretty close, so it won't save as much money as it used to.

Alphae - Lost City · November 2010

here's an example of a very modestly geared vit arcane:

http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=8b79b3e0077bb6a0 << unbuffed
http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=9145e6cbce67c044 << self buffed w/ demon fox and melee mastery (subtract 1% crit for wood mastery in human form)
http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=bc4e5c10b0e1ebb1 << fully buffed w/ self buffs + cleric, BM, barb buffs

I clearly have embarassingly low refines and only average gear (you can see two places where I sunk my money <_<;;)

I haven't played an LA veno so I can't comment.

PS: Something bizarre is going on w/ the calc. My m-atk isn't quite that high (a little bit lower, by about 100). Anyway, still an example.

Myrrmidonna - Dreamweaver · November 2010

I have played LA Veno on PW-MS up to early 80's (human form with foxform debuffs service), and never had any trouble with it, although I've been mainly doing pve. It's very flexible for soloing, and saves your butt when some mobs decide to spawn right upon you.
Also you get more hp and defences from upgraded LA with HP stones than from upgraded AA with P-Def stones, even though it's still inferior to the mighty HA/AA combo.

LA build in short:
- 1str, 1dex, 3 mag /lvl
- those stats allow you to wear your lvl AA as well, just in case you shall need to tank some magic.
- magic weapon at your level - magic sword
- use HP stones
- use m-def accesories, unless you feel a need to use some p-def ones on p-atk aoe bosses - but with LA defs (+foxform for when you need to come closer to the boss to debuff) its not likely; for pvp - your choice.

good things:
- survivalibility
- both defences well rounded, and you can quite flexibly move them around, changing pieces of LA for AA, or changing accesories

bad things:
- lower m-atk than pure-arcane, unable to solo instances that early - although in vit-arcane build its not much better, depending on how much vit you want to have.
- both p-dmg and m-dmg do hurt (unless you change into AA to skyrocket your m-def), but not -that- badly

Personally, I love this build, finding it the best for my playstyle, and I'll be going for it here as well. But then everything depends on you personal preferentions, so...

Desdi - Sanctuary · November 2010

I would like to mention that in order to make this build even more effective it's good to try and achieve a high amount of critical hit. There are several rings, weapons and tomes that give critical hit bonuses and combined with your dex (as well as demon Wood Mastery and/or Melee Mastery if you choose Demon) you can easily get quite a nice critical hit. Your critical hits should be able to make up for the low magic damage and physical damage you deal compared to a Pure Arcane or a Melee class such as the Blademaster. It will not be as effective but it should make up a part of it.

The Venomancers who choose HA in the end will have higher physical damage because they have more Str points due to the equipment requirements. Of course, this is mainly matters in the case you use Fox Form a lot but if your main focus is the human form skills this shouldn't concern you. However, a high critical hit is still nice. Remember not to neglect either sides, you have to use both Human and Fox skills in order to be effective.

I will also recommend having a decent Arcane Armour set as well as two sets of rings (magic & might) unless you are able to get decent rings that offer both. Having two sets of ornaments (elemental & protection) might be a good idea, too. I'm not very experience in PvP (not interested) so I will let others comment on this. Though personally I have both sets (elemental for -channeling, protection for HP/defence).

I have been through all types of builds Vit Arcane, Semi-pure (30 Vit), Light Armour and Heavy Armour and I can say that your build will be as effective as you will make it to be. All of them have their advantages and their disadvantages. Your knowledge/experience, skill and playstyle will play a big role in this.

Alphae - Lost City · November 2010

I got bored and made an example of an LA build (though I can't tell you from experience how it plays):

http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=f8c31200f6b4e864 << unbuffed
http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=9312dd70b4ed946a << self-buffed (again, skills are demon and subtract 1% crit for demon wood mastery)
http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=b3adec0568845704 << fully-buffed

I used my gears, except obviously statting LA w/ same grade HP gems instead of garnets, and different (but totally do-able) rings. I also used a demon slaughter belt, quite easy to obtain and has pretty good stats for an LA veno. Otherwise same refines, wep, hat, cape, and neck, and as I said, same grade gems except HP instead of garnet.

EDIT: What you can see is the builds are quite close to equal. LA ends out with a tiny bit more pdef fully buffed, whilst an arcane ends with more mdef fully buffed. Arcane also has slightly higher magic attack (but that is because I'm not FULL vit). HP is nearly identical (difference of 100 is negligible). The LA has a clear advantage in crit rate and patk, as well as in accuracy. The arcane build has an advantage in m-atk, channel, and mdef (that 300 pdef is negligible).

Need help with light armor build

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