Highest possible HP at lvl 100?

BrawlerBarb - Heavens Tear
BrawlerBarb - Heavens Tear Posts: 16 Arc User
edited November 2010 in Barbarian
This may be idle curiosity on my part, but would anyone have a calculation of the maximum possible HP a barb cuold have at level 100?

I patched together a build on pwcalc.ru with a full Lionheart set, all at +12, all spare points on VIT, and Calamity Axes as the weapon, and that just came to 20235 HP in human form.

Could someone suggest a build with higher HP? I know 20k is awesome enough, but is that the limit at that level?
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  • rinuruc
    rinuruc Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    and how much phys def does that give???
    (and could u possibly do the same for other classes/builds too,... to see what class/build maxes out every possible stat separately,... )
    :-)

    (my russian is kinda too limited to figure out everything on that site u mention XD)
  • Hazardus - Heavens Tear
    Hazardus - Heavens Tear Posts: 937 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    I don't think 20k at lvl100 is awesome at all, particularly with +12 gear.
    Didn't you add HP shard to the armors?

    I'm pushing 12k HP now and that will be 13-14k by the time I'm 88. Then come the more +vit 90 armors. Then considering added HP from sage skills. I think the average sage barb with +5 armors would have around 20k HP.
    rinuruc wrote: »
    (my russian is kinda too limited to figure out everything on that site u mention XD)

    Theres an english version of that calculator there too.
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  • rinuruc
    rinuruc Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Hazardus - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I don't think 20k at lvl100 is awesome at all, particularly with +12 gear.
    Didn't you add HP shard to the armors?

    I'm pushing 12k HP now and that will be 13-14k by the time I'm 88. Then come the more +vit 90 armors. Then considering added HP from sage skills. I think the average sage barb with +5 armors would have around 20k HP.

    in human form?
  • TheGoliath - Heavens Tear
    TheGoliath - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,667 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Hazardus - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I don't think 20k at lvl100 is awesome at all, particularly with +12 gear.
    Didn't you add HP shard to the armors?

    I'm pushing 12k HP now and that will be 13-14k by the time I'm 88. Then come the more +vit 90 armors. Then considering added HP from sage skills. I think the average sage barb with +5 armors would have around 20k HP.



    Theres an english version of that calculator there too.
    I don't think so dude, sage barbs in our servers have to refine +8 to get near 20k
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  • h0lyxflame
    h0lyxflame Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    am pretty sure i heard alot of barbs say that so far people can go up to 30k or so not sure if its true thoughb:surrender
  • rinuruc
    rinuruc Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    and how much phys def can they reach?
  • Rupture - Dreamweaver
    Rupture - Dreamweaver Posts: 85 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    BrawlerBarb wrote: »
    This may be idle curiosity on my part, but would anyone have a calculation of the maximum possible HP a barb cuold have at level 100?

    I patched together a build on pwcalc.ru with a full Lionheart set, all at +12, all spare points on VIT, and Calamity Axes as the weapon, and that just came to 20235 HP in human form.

    Could someone suggest a build with higher HP? I know 20k is awesome enough, but is that the limit at that level?

    I did it on PW Calc, and i got 21045 at level 100 with nothing but level 90 gears and amber shards in the lionheart axes. Everything else was fully gemed with g11 citrines and max refined. Oh yeah, and also a level 5 vit tome. b:victory http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=a774a4b00b958c47
  • Alyyy - Sanctuary
    Alyyy - Sanctuary Posts: 3,165 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    sage barb+sage true form+(+)12=30k hp
    Clerics are like cops...they always seem to be around.....until you actually need one b:surrender - DeadRaven
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  • rinuruc
    rinuruc Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Alyyy - Sanctuary wrote: »
    sage barb+sage true form+(+)12=30k hp
    and how much phys def goes with that?
  • Wolfgore - Heavens Tear
    Wolfgore - Heavens Tear Posts: 293 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=f19f2c7ed0e64926

    31.463 HP in HUMAN form
    38.455 HP in Tiger form

    The only one able to make this toon though is the president of PWE b:laugh
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  • rinuruc
    rinuruc Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Wolfgore - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=f19f2c7ed0e64926

    31.463 HP in HUMAN form
    38.455 HP in Tiger form

    The only one able to make this toon though is the president of PWE b:laugh

    could u do one to get highest amount of phys def too?
    (i still dont know what highlevel gear n stuff like that, is good,...)
    though i kinda like the amount of phys def, though i heard foxes can get 16k pdef or even more,...

    (edit: if i just put veno in there, than the stats r almost the same,... (though ye that calculator aint counting +% hp of tigermode,... but if fox d wear that, they d get like loads of def, due to the +%def of foxmode,...) but if you d put all shards to def-shards, i think that d form hell of a tank though
  • Verticoli - Sanctuary_1260687467
    Verticoli - Sanctuary_1260687467 Posts: 43 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    atm i have tt90 +6 with HP gems
    19,000 in tiger and im demon
    i know a barb on china server average 32,000 as demon with near all +12 and HP gems so i would go to say:
    all +12 vit build give a tome in there and 2 +5% hp necklace shuold give you 42,000 in tiger
    xD make sure u dont forget to add the 2 +5% hp neck and belt = +4000 hp ish
    but i dont think u have about $20,000 usd to spend so never mind
    b:cry
  • BrawlerBarb - Heavens Tear
    BrawlerBarb - Heavens Tear Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    To clarify my original posting, though I had assumed I had:

    My hypothetical set-up uses all 6 pieces of the Lionheart set, thus precluding any other belt or necklace... Getting all 6 pieces gives some fantastic bonuses.

    No shards were included in the calculation: Those can be added subsequently, I was looking for a base gear calculation, bypassing the debate on feasibility of obtaining Stones of Gaia, etc.

    Also, adding +7 VIT +7 VIT as two random bonuses on most items would negate the purpose of this exercise anyway, because that way, why not just add +7 VIT 3 times on each item, instead? There can be up to 3 random bonuses on many gear items.

    So, to take it again from the top:
    * Clean unsharded gear items with +12 refines
    * No random bonuses to "tweak" the results
    * Using Calamity Axes to reduce STR requirement (I spotted a lvl 99+ barb with calamities today, which started me thinking on these lines)
    * Using level 100 gold gear or as close to it as possible
    * Used a full set (6 pieces) of the Lionheart set, for the set-based bonus
    * Used the +25 VIT tome, admittedly that's a "tweak".

    I can see from the discussions so far, that in many cases gear of level lower than 99/100 could well give a hefty HP bonus compared to what I selected - such as the mastodons and the Sky Demon Pearl. This is now a new line of thinking, I'll go play with pwcalc a bit further.

    To answer the point about "Russian", pwcalc.ru/pwi/ provides the PWI versions of the gear, and it's in English, albeit not the best English.

    On the PDEF question, my configuration gave me 14k+ PDEF.




    So, to rephrase my query: Could someone please suggest a set of standard gear refined to +12, specifically armor and ornaments, with no random bonuses, unsharded, that would give the highest possible HP at level 100?

    Adding shards to meet a players whims, or adding random bonuses, et cetera, could follow from that starting point, to add another few thousand HP, but that is not what I am asking for.
  • Wolfgore - Heavens Tear
    Wolfgore - Heavens Tear Posts: 293 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    rinuruc wrote: »
    could u do one to get highest amount of phys def too?

    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=74b8eb004428250d

    63.183 Phys.Def - Fully buffed, in sage tiger form b:victory



    b:chuckle Oh thats the son of PWEs president b:laugh
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  • BrawlerBarb - Heavens Tear
    BrawlerBarb - Heavens Tear Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Wolfgore - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=74b8eb004428250d

    63.183 Phys.Def - Fully buffed, in sage tiger form b:victory



    b:chuckle Oh thats the son of PWEs president b:laugh

    I can see that there is a communication gap here.

    1. Human form unbuffed HP is what I have been projecting from the first post. Fully buffed, sage tiger form, are all great, but that is not the point.
    2. Which part of "no random bonuses" is difficult to understand? I looked at the cape, with it's two VIT+7 bonuses, and decided "waste of time".
  • Saveless - Harshlands
    Saveless - Harshlands Posts: 664 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    How 'bout all you curious HP people just go on the private server and find out?
  • Devilmages - Sanctuary
    Devilmages - Sanctuary Posts: 195 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Saveless - Harshlands wrote: »
    How 'bout all you curious HP people just go on the private server and find out?

    lol i like your sig :D
    i like pie
  • Calliope - Heavens Tear
    Calliope - Heavens Tear Posts: 328 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=ed0931866b077774

    Over 25k hp in human form. I think all the stat boost gears work, someone should double check.

    No damage, but hey, you'll be great with catapults.

    edit: updated it a bit to get to 25.6k. The fully sharded version has 39.6k hp in tiger form: http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=ae5ea1ccfd9d3922 although there may be further improvements possible.
  • DestroyTokyo - Lost City
    DestroyTokyo - Lost City Posts: 501 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    TheGoliath - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I don't think so dude, sage barbs in our servers have to refine +8 to get near 20k

    Well I'm a 93 Hell wb and have almost 21k hp.....
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  • rinuruc
    rinuruc Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Wolfgore - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=74b8eb004428250d

    63.183 Phys.Def - Fully buffed, in sage tiger form b:victory



    b:chuckle Oh thats the son of PWEs president b:laugh

    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=387d9c8fbf6d2ef1
    veno, fully buffd;
    67568 pdef;
    but i notice it still says 94% reduced phys dmg u get from mobs; so its both already going over a certain cap ?

    (now i notice how comez; yer buff of tigers that shapeshifting intensify gives 120%pdef; and sage foxform gives 150% pdef)
    i didnt know tigers had that buff XD

    but foxes minimal phys dmg is higher than the tigers max XD
  • Anirudh - Lost City
    Anirudh - Lost City Posts: 115 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=5d0e96aecff3cb8b
    b:shutup
  • Pnut - Lost City
    Pnut - Lost City Posts: 91 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=c9c05f57fa7964f3
    Btw, belt refines wrong.
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    gonna restat to AA and hop into a TW in 90 robes... :D" - Stickygreen lvl 93 WB Heavens Tear
  • TigerMBN - Dreamweaver
    TigerMBN - Dreamweaver Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=c918ae4817ad3605
    well that my dream b:pleased
    less p.def (89% vs 94%, it has 3% reduce p.harm that it doesn't count so it's 92% vs 94%) but everything else much higher.
  • Yulk - Heavens Tear
    Yulk - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,951 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    TigerMBN - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=c918ae4817ad3605
    well that my dream b:pleased
    less p.def (89% vs 94%, it has 3% reduce p.harm that it doesn't count so it's 92% vs 94%) but everything else much higher.

    Here is mine :P
    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=17cb21ae7bec04ed

    Also with the skill so scarlet axes with lionheart set and those rings i will have to work hard to manufacture them lol

    Carebear style, overall good physical combat :P. Might not be the highest, but you have to keepp our defenses high as well b:cool

    This is what I aim for when I re-roll in another version (maybe, its coz i might not play this version again b:cry) It should take me 2 years at most to get to that LVL b:sad
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  • KingTank - Heavens Tear
    KingTank - Heavens Tear Posts: 298 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    i'v tested one out on a PS. I got 35k Human and 45k tiger form, all +12 gear and G.Stones :D
  • Clatin - Dreamweaver
    Clatin - Dreamweaver Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    i know ppl dont have 2 of the same class most of the time but my other BM got **** hot do i get my stuff back?b:cry
  • prof
    prof Posts: 1,111
    edited October 2010
    without stones
    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=0a4da189d89a29a0
    with stones
    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=53419cfa907fe8c2

    both are self buffed
  • dragonicdeath
    dragonicdeath Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    rinuruc wrote: »
    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=387d9c8fbf6d2ef1
    veno, fully buffd;
    67568 pdef;
    but i notice it still says 94% reduced phys dmg u get from mobs; so its both already going over a certain cap ?

    (now i notice how comez; yer buff of tigers that shapeshifting intensify gives 120%pdef; and sage foxform gives 150% pdef)
    i didnt know tigers had that buff XD

    but foxes minimal phys dmg is higher than the tigers max XD


    don't venos need to be wielding a magic weapon to go into fox form? if so, you cant use fox form as a buff, which would bring the veno down to 25k max dmg with sage spec (about the same as sage barbs) 92% dmg reduct over 94%, and 10k less hp than the barb
  • prof
    prof Posts: 1,111
    edited November 2010
    you can wield other weapons in fox, it just involves a glitch that hasn't been patched in 4 years.
  • dragonicdeath
    dragonicdeath Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Except for that that glitch is bannable

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