Coming to the Wizzy gods for help...Please!

LifeHunting - Lost City
LifeHunting - Lost City Posts: 1,105 Arc User
edited November 2010 in Wizard
Ok, recently made myself a wizzy alt. I plan to lvl him to 80 and maybe beyond, it all depends on how much I love his big numbers....and man do i love big numbers >.>....

What I want is one of the best possible calc's you guys can make for a lvl 80 wizard. Please don't make it crazy expensive or anything like that. I want something that I would be able to acquire with little to no cashshoping involved.
If tokens or other things are needed i'll see what I can do to get the cash for them and buy them for this alt. Currently using the hyper lvl method to get this alt (Named DDcaster) up to lvl 80. Hoping it won't take forever, but i'm going to be patient and wait it all out.

So, as I said. Best calc you can come up with that won't cost me my house, car, and next life.
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  • BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur
    BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur Posts: 1,842 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Ok, recently made myself a wizzy alt. I plan to lvl him to 80 and maybe beyond, it all depends on how much I love his big numbers....and man do i love big numbers >.>....

    Rethink this a little bit. Hyper exp stones are so cheap, you can get to lvl 90 without much problem at all. Then your "cheap" gear choice is pretty simple:

    CHEST: Devil's cape of aries (lvl 88 mold) - alot cheaper than tt90 chest and 98% as good.

    WRISTS: Sleeves of Sea Captain (compare these even to the tt99 gold sleeves (without archangel bonuses) and they are 95% the same. You should also be able to get lvl 90 OHT sleeves that are pretty good (with +pdef and/or +hp, -channeling) on a mature server like LC.

    LEGS: TT90 green pants - whatever the cost, however hard to farm, you need these.

    BOOTS: TT80 gold boots, or lvl 90 OHT boots with +pdef and/or +hp.

    HELM: Any purple *** helm with +pdef and/or +hp

    RINGS: School teacher attendance rings.

    WEAPON: Weapon - aquadash is good if you can get it, if not wheel of denied fate (TT90 glaive) is pretty popular.

    CAPE: Cape - with no cash this is hard. A purple *** with +pdef and/or +hp is ok. People knock the tauran cape (69 mold) for wizards but I think its just fine for lower levels (under 95). At 95, you can get the cape of elite leather (95 mold) which is nice.

    NECK: Sky demon pearl (87 mold protection neck) or the serinth neck (green or gold) from Frostcovered city.

    BELT: TT90 protection belt (TT90 gold if possible) or the vibrant jade (green or gold) from Frostcovered city.

    Refine your gear as much as possible. Most can get to +4 without cash.

    On a pvp server, you might want to think about light armor or vitality, idk. But I wouldn't waste alot of time or money on gear for your 80s. Buy 1 set of hypers (400,000 coin on my server, about an hour of farming, etc., or 10 minutes with that new "attack on archosaur" event) and 12x the big room in frostcovered city 20x and you will be 90 in no time.
    "And as for bragging, I don't need to brag. I am famous, yo. My accomplishments are legendary. I am BLOODMYSTIC, speaker of truth, bane of the Barbarians of Impulse, slayer of the **** of Narla, liberator of all the free peoples of the Archosaur server, former master propagandist for our leader in freedom, Proski, and Archtroll of the PWI Forums. And now? Amiable pve wizard, beloved by all, aka BLUEMYSTIC. Pleased to make your acquaintance."
  • LifeHunting - Lost City
    LifeHunting - Lost City Posts: 1,105 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Blood: Thank you for the gear suggestions, as for leveling right now I'm just aiming at 80 so that I can get a really good feel for the class. (Ignoring all quests till I get to lvl 80 >.>)

    As for the cash part, I am willing to spend money on the game if I need to so that I can get the gear, that is not a major concern. I just want to avoid getting back into an old habit of "Omg!! I need more gold to make cash!!", it cost me over $500 before I left 2 months ago to play WoW, and then I realized it's easier to farm and grind the cash than it is to buy all of it.
    I remember somebody posting a lvl 80 calc that had warsoul weapon on it in a thread somewhere....I think it was for either HT's Sin or DW Archer...Not sure which. I liked most of the armor, and it just recently came back to mind...


    Still accepting any gearing suggestions people can give ^_^
  • Adroit - Lost City
    Adroit - Lost City Posts: 4,628 Arc User
    edited November 2010

    CHEST: Devil's cape of aries (lvl 88 mold) - alot cheaper than tt90 chest and 98% as good.

    WRISTS: Sleeves of Sea Captain (compare these even to the tt99 gold sleeves (without archangel bonuses) and they are 95% the same. You should also be able to get lvl 90 OHT sleeves that are pretty good on a mature server like LC.

    CAPE: Cape - with no cash this is hard. A 3*** is ok. People knock the tauran cape (69 mold) for wizards but I think its just fine for lower levels (under 95). At 95, you can get the cape of elite leather (95 mold) which is nice.

    BELT: TT90 protection belt (TT90 gold if possible) or the vibrant jade (green or gold) from Frostcovered city.

    devils cape of aries gives 90 hp and no other useful stats, HH90 top gives 150 hp.. don't see that as 98% as good.

    Sleeves of Sea Captain only give -channeling.. and are for lvl 77 (low base resists/refine for less etc etc). You need to ditch these when you get to 90 and get either OHT wrists with good stats or HH90 gold. You're doing it wrong if you use anything else.

    Tauren cape is **** because its only useful stats are +mdef, and arcanes already have more mdef than anything else. Finding a cape with some hp on it would be far more valuable. FYI, cape of elite leather is lvl 96.

    The map belts are actually some of the best belts in the game (which is somewhat ironic because quest rewards usually suck), I'd highly recommend getting at least 2nd map and using that belt. I'm still using my 4th map belt and have no plans to change it anytime soon :P
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  • BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur
    BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur Posts: 1,842 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Blood: Thank you for the gear suggestions, as for leveling right now I'm just aiming at 80 so that I can get a really good feel for the class. (Ignoring all quests till I get to lvl 80

    Pre lvl 90, your gear doesn't really matter for pve quests, etc. Just use whatever purple *** with +hp and +pdef you can find. If you want some molds in there (there are some lvl 70s chest and pants), thats fine. Farm the TT80 sleeves so you can make TT90 gold sleeves if you want to, but check the availability/price of the gold mats on your server to make sure this isn't more than you want to spend. If you don't want to pay for the gold mats, just use sea captain sleeves.

    For weapon, I like the 79 mold or at lvl 85 the frost wand or glaive (the green ones should be cheap).
    devils cape of aries gives 90 hp and no other useful stats, HH90 top gives 150 hp.. don't see that as 98% as good.

    In terms of hp alone, true (60% as good). But the pdef and mdef are like 99% as good. put the difference you pay for tt90 green into shards for the devil's cape (even on cheaper servers, the price difference should pay for the difference between flawless and immaculate citrines - on mine it would pay for the difference between flawless and perfect citrines), and coin-for-coin they are actually better imo.

    And I'm not the only one to come to that conclusion (and I thought I was somewhat of a vanguard) - searching the forums now for something else, I stumbled on this:

    http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?p=3253472&highlight=dancing+sparkle#post3253472
    Sleeves of Sea Captain only give -channeling.. and are for lvl 77 (low base resists/refine for less etc etc). You need to ditch these when you get to 90 and get either OHT wrists with good stats or HH90 gold. You're doing it wrong if you use anything else.

    TT90 gold sleeves are best (what I use) but they are alot more expensive. Again, put some of the coin difference into shards and you can make sea captains pretty damn close to TT90 gold. Maybe not as good, but close, and a good bit cheaper.

    And you say "refine for less" as though that difference is significant for a non-cash player. Most get +2 or maybe +3. Check the difference between sea captains at +3 and TT90 gold sleeves at +3. Without looking, I would be surprised if its even 30 hp.
    Tauren cape is **** because its only useful stats are +mdef, and arcanes already have more mdef than anything else. Finding a cape with some hp on it would be far more valuable. FYI, cape of elite leather is lvl 96.

    LVL 96, you're right of course.

    Tauren is fine. We talked about finding a good purple *** cape on lost city before, you and I. b:chuckle

    I agree, if he can find one, use that. I think I said as much.

    If he can't (as I and others on that thread couldn't when we looked in AH on LC server), Tauran is better than the lvl 50 capes with +60 hp I see some people running around in.
    The map belts are actually some of the best belts in the game (which is somewhat ironic because quest rewards usually suck), I'd highly recommend getting at least 2nd map and using that belt. I'm still using my 4th map belt and have no plans to change it anytime soon :P

    I agree, get the OHT belt eventually. Isn't the 4th map belt higher than lvl 90 though? Compare the green/gold frostcovered city vibrant jade vs the stats on the 2nd oht belt. And the frost belts you can use at lvl 85 (maybe the 2nd belt is 85 too? idk)


    Don't just listen to Adroit (or me for that matter) - compare the stats and the prices. For example, I suppose its possible there are some servers where the price difference between TT90 green chest and the 88 mold makes it foolish to choose the 88 mold, or sea captains with 2 perfect garnets vs TT90 gold sleeves, etc.

    On my server, for an extreme example, the price difference between devil's cape and acrobat robe was 12.8m coins, which was more than enough to put perfect citrines in my 88 mold cape. b:laugh If the Acrobat robe costs more than 3m more than the devils cape on your server, start thinking about the devil's cape with better shards over the TT90.

    Look at the stats and the prices on your server. What I gave you is a pretty cheap build, easily acquired with no cash. If you can do better with more work or more coin, so be it. On sanctuary, most of what I've recommended can be bought for less than 500k each.
    "And as for bragging, I don't need to brag. I am famous, yo. My accomplishments are legendary. I am BLOODMYSTIC, speaker of truth, bane of the Barbarians of Impulse, slayer of the **** of Narla, liberator of all the free peoples of the Archosaur server, former master propagandist for our leader in freedom, Proski, and Archtroll of the PWI Forums. And now? Amiable pve wizard, beloved by all, aka BLUEMYSTIC. Pleased to make your acquaintance."
  • Adroit - Lost City
    Adroit - Lost City Posts: 4,628 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Pre lvl 90, your gear doesn't really matter for pve quests, etc. Just use whatever purple *** with +hp and +pdef you can find. If you want some molds in there (there are some lvl 70s chest and pants), thats fine. Farm the TT80 sleeves so you can make TT90 gold sleeves if you want to, but check the availability/price of the gold mats on your server to make sure this isn't more than you want to spend. If you don't want to pay for the gold mats, just use sea captain sleeves.

    For weapon, I like the 79 mold or at lvl 85 the frost wand or glaive (the green ones should be cheap).



    In terms of hp alone, true (60% as good). But the pdef and mdef are like 99% as good. put the difference you pay for tt90 green into shards for the devil's cape (even on cheaper servers, the price difference should pay for the difference between flawless and immaculate citrines - on mine it would pay for the difference between flawless and perfect citrines), and coin-for-coin they are actually better imo.

    And I'm not the only one to come to that conclusion (and I thought I was somewhat of a vanguard) - searching the forums now for something else, I stumbled on this:

    http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?p=3253472&highlight=dancing+sparkle#post3253472



    TT90 gold sleeves are best (what I use) but they are alot more expensive. Again, put some of the coin difference into shards and you can make sea captains pretty damn close to TT90 gold. Maybe not as good, but close, and a good bit cheaper.

    And you say "refine for less" as though that difference is significant for a non-cash player. Most get +2 or maybe +3. Check the difference between sea captains at +3 and TT90 gold sleeves at +3. Without looking, I would be surprised if its even 30 hp.



    LVL 96, you're right of course.

    Tauren is fine. We talked about finding a good purple *** cape on lost city before, you and I. b:chuckle

    I agree, if he can find one, use that. I think I said as much.

    If he can't (as I and others on that thread couldn't when we looked in AH on LC server), Tauran is better than the lvl 50 capes with +60 hp I see some people running around in.



    I agree, get the OHT belt eventually. Isn't the 4th map belt higher than lvl 90 though? Compare the green/gold frostcovered city vibrant jade vs the stats on the 2nd oht belt. And the frost belts you can use at lvl 85 (maybe the 2nd belt is 85 too? idk)


    Don't just listen to Adroit (or me for that matter) - compare the stats and the prices. For example, I suppose its possible there are some servers where the price difference between TT90 green chest and the 88 mold makes it foolish to choose the 88 mold, or sea captains with 2 perfect garnets vs TT90 gold sleeves, etc.

    On my server, for an extreme example, the price difference between devil's cape and acrobat robe was 12.8m coins, which was more than enough to put perfect citrines in my 88 mold cape. b:laugh If the Acrobat robe costs more than 3m more than the devils cape on your server, start thinking about the devil's cape with better shards over the TT90.

    Look at the stats and the prices on your server. What I gave you is a pretty cheap build, easily acquired with no cash. If you can do better with more work or more coin, so be it. On sanctuary, most of what I've recommended can be bought for less than 500k each.

    Refining/sharding bad gear does give you more bang for your buck at the start. The problem is that when you start hitting end game, the shards/refines get more expensive than the gear in the first place. Wouldn't it be frustrating having a +5 devils cape top and realizing that to refine it again would cost more than the HH90 top is even worth (with 600k gold price and orbs on sale it would cost over 14m for a 6 star orb), and the HH90 top at +5 would give more hp than devil's cape at +6. You'll save money in the long run by just investing in good gear in the first place.
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  • Loltank - Harshlands
    Loltank - Harshlands Posts: 747 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Or take a third option: TT90 Gold chest cause it's way cheaper than TT90 green and stacks with the bracers to give you an extra 10 magic. Pretty nice boost, depite the lack of HP it gives.


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  • Adroit - Lost City
    Adroit - Lost City Posts: 4,628 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Or take a third option: TT90 Gold chest cause it's way cheaper than TT90 green and stacks with the bracers to give you an extra 10 magic. Pretty nice boost, depite the lack of HP it gives.


    EDIT: In no way am I a wizard god.

    being that it has no other useful stats, I'd stay away from that lol. If you were to compare the extra hp vs magic points, you could say that one mag point = one vit point.. so that extra magic would have an hp equivalent of 100 hp (dunno if that made any sense, but not really sure how else I can explain the way I think of stat bonuses). Besides, HH90 gold auto-binds so when you do go for new armor at some point, you won't be able to recoup any of your investment.
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  • Laylor - Heavens Tear
    Laylor - Heavens Tear Posts: 56 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    I have never cashopped, nor hypered but still, was able to get my TT80 gold (armor + weapon) when I was in my 80s, and now got my TT99 weapon and TT90...
    TT80 gold chest is a good alternative too to TT90 green in my opinion, and it costs way less (was able to get the gold mats for 250k each..was months ago tho, not sure about the prices now).
    If you want channelling gear, then go for 5k rep and get the rank chest piece.

    Edit: the gear depends also on the build you use.
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  • BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur
    BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur Posts: 1,842 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    the HH90 top at +5 would give more hp than devil's cape at +6. You'll save money in the long run by just investing in good gear in the first place.

    Not with perfect shards b:laugh Your somewhat playing games with the numbers.

    Devil's cape and TT90 are both g11 and give same hp per refine. No matter how you cut it, if the cost of TT90 chest plus +5 refine plus flawless citrines = cost of Devil's cape plus +5 refine plus perfect citrines - devils cape wins. To +6 either one will give absolutely the same hp increase, and absolutely cost the same. So at +6 or +10, under the facts I've given, Devil's cape is demonstrably the better option.

    Again, if Devil's cape and TT90 are within probably 3-4m of each other in terms of price, that might be a different picture. As the price difference between the two decreases, the TT90 becomes a better and better option.

    And do most people refine TT90 higher than +5? I knew I was using mine for a loooooong time (will probably always use it - TT99/nirvana way to hard to farm and too expensive on my server), and until I have my g13 gear (cloudcharger/warsoul) to +8 I don't see refining any armor higher or all that much benefit for the cost (at least on my server) of tt99 or nirvana.
    I have never cashopped, nor hypered but still, was able to get my TT80 gold (armor + weapon) when I was in my 80s, and now got my TT99 weapon and TT90...

    Alot of people elect the TT80 gold as a cheaper and better option to use through 99, and I can't say that I can find all that much fault with it other than this: even with hypers most people (well, at least wizards) tend to spend alot of time at 95+ before they get the TT99 set or nirvana. I am not sure I would want to spend that time in gear 20 levels lower that would be economically wasteful to refine much or socket/shard too heavily. 95+ pk and TW is not friendly for an under-geared, under-sharded, under-refined wiz . . . .

    But, if you are on a mature server where you can feel fairly confident you will be able to get hyper to 99 fairly quickly, get your TT99 in the auction house fairly affordably or have lots of runs, etc. available to you, I think TT80 gold could be a fine option.

    Just make sure the moment you put it on and bind it, you are working like the devil to get out of it.
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  • Loltank - Harshlands
    Loltank - Harshlands Posts: 747 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    being that it has no other useful stats, I'd stay away from that lol. If you were to compare the extra hp vs magic points, you could say that one mag point = one vit point.. so that extra magic would have an hp equivalent of 100 hp (dunno if that made any sense, but not really sure how else I can explain the way I think of stat bonuses). Besides, HH90 gold auto-binds so when you do go for new armor at some point, you won't be able to recoup any of your investment.


    Adroit is right. I never look at resale when gearing chars since I have at least one other alt "growing into" that armor later. I'm a gear packrat lol.
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  • BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur
    BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur Posts: 1,842 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Adroit is right. I never look at resale when gearing chars since I have at least one other alt "growing into" that armor later. I'm a gear packrat lol.

    Account stash solves that.

    I think he means sell it and put the coin into your current/future gear.
    "And as for bragging, I don't need to brag. I am famous, yo. My accomplishments are legendary. I am BLOODMYSTIC, speaker of truth, bane of the Barbarians of Impulse, slayer of the **** of Narla, liberator of all the free peoples of the Archosaur server, former master propagandist for our leader in freedom, Proski, and Archtroll of the PWI Forums. And now? Amiable pve wizard, beloved by all, aka BLUEMYSTIC. Pleased to make your acquaintance."
  • Keliska - Raging Tide
    Keliska - Raging Tide Posts: 768 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Blood: Thank you for the gear suggestions, as for leveling right now I'm just aiming at 80 so that I can get a really good feel for the class. (Ignoring all quests till I get to lvl 80 >.>)

    As for the cash part, I am willing to spend money on the game if I need to so that I can get the gear, that is not a major concern. I just want to avoid getting back into an old habit of "Omg!! I need more gold to make cash!!", it cost me over $500 before I left 2 months ago to play WoW, and then I realized it's easier to farm and grind the cash than it is to buy all of it.
    I remember somebody posting a lvl 80 calc that had warsoul weapon on it in a thread somewhere....I think it was for either HT's Sin or DW Archer...Not sure which. I liked most of the armor, and it just recently came back to mind...


    Still accepting any gearing suggestions people can give ^_^

    Think of a warsoul weapon as a dream ...

    o.o Would never spend more then $50 on a game. currently at $10 :P
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  • LifeHunting - Lost City
    LifeHunting - Lost City Posts: 1,105 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Think of a warsoul weapon as a dream ...

    o.o Would never spend more then $50 on a game. currently at $10 :P

    No, it's very possible. You just have to be very good at grinding and have a lot of free time.
    It takes about....4.7-5 bil in coins and somewhere in the 33,000 range for Mysterious chips. If you can mange to get all of that then all you have to do is go to the mysterious merchant and collect all the fragments (100 of each type), then take the deathmatch arena to cube then to arch, and go to the center platform (the one supported by the hovering dragons), talk to the dude who looks like the World Boss Sword Tamer and cash in all the fragments for statues and then trade 1 of each statue for the mold (if its a non-T.born class), then switch to the Pwr tab select the weapon of the mold you chose and click "Create". should be a 100% chance to make it and it'll come with all 6 addon's.

    But I only learned this after doing lots of calculations on how much it would cost, the quickest ways to get it, and what is needed.

    In the end my BM (main) is just going for his TT100 fist which is only 150 mil (For the 40 Perfect Luck tokens so I can get Heart of Nature).
  • Keliska - Raging Tide
    Keliska - Raging Tide Posts: 768 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    No, it's very possible. You just have to be very good at grinding and have a lot of free time.
    It takes about....4.7-5 bil in coins and somewhere in the 33,000 range for Mysterious chips. If you can mange to get all of that then all you have to do is go to the mysterious merchant and collect all the fragments (100 of each type), then take the deathmatch arena to cube then to arch, and go to the center platform (the one supported by the hovering dragons), talk to the dude who looks like the World Boss Sword Tamer and cash in all the fragments for statues and then trade 1 of each statue for the mold (if its a non-T.born class), then switch to the Pwr tab select the weapon of the mold you chose and click "Create". should be a 100% chance to make it and it'll come with all 6 addon's.

    But I only learned this after doing lots of calculations on how much it would cost, the quickest ways to get it, and what is needed.

    In the end my BM (main) is just going for his TT100 fist which is only 150 mil (For the 40 Perfect Luck tokens so I can get Heart of Nature).

    Have at it, takes 63 years to grind for it or $53,000 USD

    Only easier way is to make a faction of 198 and grind for all of them and have a weapon in 2 1/2 years.

    x.x or the probably impossible task of make a faction filled with high leveled barbs and have each of them go do there own squads for 10 TT runs each day.
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  • LifeHunting - Lost City
    LifeHunting - Lost City Posts: 1,105 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Sorry for the double post here...but...

    How does this look?

    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=cb2642c93f66ca8c
  • LifeHunting - Lost City
    LifeHunting - Lost City Posts: 1,105 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Have at it, takes 63 years to grind for it or $53,000 USD

    Only easier way is to make a faction of 198 and grind for all of them and have a weapon in 2 1/2 years.

    x.x or the probably impossible task of make a faction filled with high leveled barbs and have each of them go do there own squads for 10 TT runs each day.
    __

    Prove: http://tinyurl.com/27rfce8

    Simpler Method:

    Grab a squad of 1 lvl 100 cleric, and 5 people with 3.33-4.0 aps. Go into Nirvana, farm it until you become so tired of it your ready to quit the game. Sell everything you don't need for your own gear and make a profit.

    Cannies are currently going for 2.1 mil on my server. ^.^
    Add in all the other stuff I might pick up along the way (molds, junk stuff to NPC, *** items, etc.) it's quiet easy to get up to the required amount.

    It just requires the people who are doing it to have a good amount of time on their hands.
  • Keliska - Raging Tide
    Keliska - Raging Tide Posts: 768 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    need the right people and hope everyone has 2.1kk

    good luck with that plan.
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  • LifeHunting - Lost City
    LifeHunting - Lost City Posts: 1,105 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    need the right people and hope everyone has 2.1kk

    good luck with that plan.

    I could probably find a lvl 100 barb who'd be willing to tag along. You know how they love things to go fast and have a small repair bill b:laugh

    Plus lately, most BM's have either been doing +vit stones in most of their gear slots or restating to absolute minimum for TT100 fist dex needed and TT90 axe str needed (which is 272 str, 198 dex), and putting all of the extra stats into vit, then adding in a mix of +vit and DoD or DoT
  • Adroit - Lost City
    Adroit - Lost City Posts: 4,628 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Not with perfect shards b:laugh Your somewhat playing games with the numbers.

    Devil's cape and TT90 are both g11 and give same hp per refine. No matter how you cut it, if the cost of TT90 chest plus +5 refine plus flawless citrines = cost of Devil's cape plus +5 refine plus perfect citrines - devils cape wins. To +6 either one will give absolutely the same hp increase, and absolutely cost the same. So at +6 or +10, under the facts I've given, Devil's cape is demonstrably the better option.

    Again, if Devil's cape and TT90 are within probably 3-4m of each other in terms of price, that might be a different picture. As the price difference between the two decreases, the TT90 becomes a better and better option.

    And do most people refine TT90 higher than +5? I knew I was using mine for a loooooong time (will probably always use it - TT99/nirvana way to hard to farm and too expensive on my server), and until I have my g13 gear (cloudcharger/warsoul) to +8 I don't see refining any armor higher or all that much benefit for the cost (at least on my server) of tt99 or nirvana.

    ..

    Let's try this again.

    +5 HH90 top gives more hp than a +6 devils cape (with equivalent shards)
    +5 HH90 top costs less than a +6 devils cape. (+6 orb costs ~14m with current prices, HH90 top is like what.. ~4-5m tops?). I haven't done the math, but I'd assume +4 HH90 top is cheaper than a +5 devils cape (and obviously the HH90 top would have more hp).

    Besides, 3 perfect shards would cost more than HH90 top is worth (by ALOT). And with the perfect shards, you'd get a whopping 2 extra hp (with 3 shards). Getting two flawless and 1 immac hp shard in the HH90 top would be significantly cheaper and would still give more hp.
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  • Helbear - Heavens Tear
    Helbear - Heavens Tear Posts: 179 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    ..

    Let's try this again.

    +5 HH90 top gives more hp than a +6 devils cape (with equivalent shards)
    +5 HH90 top costs less than a +6 devils cape. (+6 orb costs ~14m with current prices, HH90 top is like what.. ~4-5m tops?). I haven't done the math, but I'd assume +4 HH90 top is cheaper than a +5 devils cape (and obviously the HH90 top would have more hp).

    Besides, 3 perfect shards would cost more than HH90 top is worth (by ALOT). And with the perfect shards, you'd get a whopping 2 extra hp (with 3 shards). Getting two flawless and 1 immac hp shard in the HH90 top would be significantly cheaper and would still give more hp.

    Don't you just wish one of your PK videos were real life sometimes *sigh* we can dream
  • Keliska - Raging Tide
    Keliska - Raging Tide Posts: 768 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    o.o rather have unwasted space tyvm.

    work your way to the top by sharding your equipment.

    lawls that is a messy business.
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  • BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur
    BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur Posts: 1,842 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    ..
    Let's try this again.

    Yes, lets.
    ..
    +5 HH90 top costs this
    +6 orb costs that
    current prices this
    +4 HH90 top is cheaper than that
    3 perfect shards would cost this
    HH90 top is worth that
    HH90 top would be significantly cheaper than that
    blah, blah, blah

    If your argument boils down to not enough price difference between the TT90 and the Devil's cape . . . .

    WE AGREE.

    Thought I said that already. Twice.
    For example, I suppose its possible there are some servers where the price difference between TT90 green chest and the 88 mold makes it foolish to choose the 88 mold.
    Again, if Devil's cape and TT90 are within probably 3-4m of each other in terms of price, that might be a different picture. As the price difference between the two decreases, the TT90 becomes a better and better option.
    "And as for bragging, I don't need to brag. I am famous, yo. My accomplishments are legendary. I am BLOODMYSTIC, speaker of truth, bane of the Barbarians of Impulse, slayer of the **** of Narla, liberator of all the free peoples of the Archosaur server, former master propagandist for our leader in freedom, Proski, and Archtroll of the PWI Forums. And now? Amiable pve wizard, beloved by all, aka BLUEMYSTIC. Pleased to make your acquaintance."
  • LifeHunting - Lost City
    LifeHunting - Lost City Posts: 1,105 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    For some reason it didn't post this.....so here it is again:

    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=cb2642c93f66ca8c


    It was a quick build and armor set I came up with for my character at lvl 80. How does it look? Good? Bad? Stupid? etc?
  • BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur
    BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur Posts: 1,842 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Sleeves of Sea Captain only give -channeling.. and are for lvl 77 (low base resists/refine for less etc etc). You need to ditch these when you get to 90 and get either OHT wrists with good stats or HH90 gold. You're doing it wrong if you use anything else.

    prof wrote: »
    @mumi: shut up. the only time you notice the huge difference in refine rate is +11 and +12. god you're stupid.

    hh90 gold vs. green is always green. 90 gold sleeves can be replaced with the 77 molder.

    Can I get these two to troll each other on this point a little?

    Still don't get why prof hides character name . . . . Banned on main maybe?
    "And as for bragging, I don't need to brag. I am famous, yo. My accomplishments are legendary. I am BLOODMYSTIC, speaker of truth, bane of the Barbarians of Impulse, slayer of the **** of Narla, liberator of all the free peoples of the Archosaur server, former master propagandist for our leader in freedom, Proski, and Archtroll of the PWI Forums. And now? Amiable pve wizard, beloved by all, aka BLUEMYSTIC. Pleased to make your acquaintance."
  • eyehaveyou
    eyehaveyou Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    well i ran around with rank 4 chest armor (should be easy to get with dqpoint system)
    gold 80 boots
    some random 3* hat with pdef/hp
    same for cape ( tauran chief cape was at 13 mil + at my times)
    gold 80 pants
    gold 80 wand
    bla forgot the name of the rings u get from fb 79
    sea capt sleeves ( till i found out: im a wiz i need to hit hard not in 1.94 sec instead of 2 secs with my fastest skill) then i got me some 3* sleeves with + mag on it
    natures breath necklace
    and some weird belt in my 80s

    in my 90s i had
    tt 90 chest
    tt 90 pants
    gold 80 boots
    tt 90 arms
    sky demon's pearl necklace
    some 3* star hat( now warsoul of heaven ( nice hp boost when refined))
    wheel of denied fate weapon
    stratus of buddha (with some + hp + pdef)
    well 4 oht rings (if i need more hp i use 2 rings that give me 240 hp each (costed me 200 k each ring) or if i need to deal more dmg i got rings with +m attk + 8 mag +5 mag (been a lil bit more expensive tho)
    map 3 belt ( i refuse to achieve map 4 belt since i hate moonshade)
  • Steopie - Heavens Tear
    Steopie - Heavens Tear Posts: 576 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    wow.. i make a boredom trip to wizzie section and find our good bm friend lifehunting is posting here.
    Famous for his delusional fantasies and gear builds, the man who spends more time on pwcalc than in game, the man who 'gave up on warsoul wep to farm tt90 gear'. Currently grinding DQ items in his quest to save up 150mill for his tt100 fists... despite the fact he'll never even hit level 100 as he spends all day fantasising over gear, rerolling alts and making a prat of himself on the forums.
    For some reason it didn't post this.....so here it is again:

    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=cb2642c93f66ca8c


    It was a quick build and armor set I came up with for my character at lvl 80. How does it look? Good? Bad? Stupid? etc?

    So i guess i need some proof to justify my above statements? lets take a look at your pw calc.

    A cape which is not in the game... sounds good.

    A tome which is also not in the game and a grade above the scroll of tome tomes, so would costs you circa 250m * 3 to produce... 750mill on a tome right there, thought it isnt even in game right now, your knowledge of this game is incredible.

    A warsong elemental belt.. the warsong badge will set you back ~50m and lol? elemental belt? Ive seen your BM... you have elemental gear for a HA class. Now, if you use your non existent brain you should figure out that while an HA class needs mdef from ornaments, an AA class needs pdef, not mdef, unless you go for a channeling build.

    once again, your choice of r6 ring totally blew me away! 35k rep for a ring! thats roughly 11k tokens @ 10k per token is... 110mill for a ring. gg rofl. add another 10mill for a coa ring, though the crit is nice the dex is a waste.

    then 10 - 15mill for your champ scroll helm seems /reasonable/ i guess. Where the rest of your armour and wep is so ghetto its hardly worth 10mill combined.

    Your build idea proves how little you know about the workings of this game, despite spending hours upon hours of questioning ingame and on the forums. Its honestly beyond my comprehension how you can be so clueless despite the time and effort you put into researching. Seriously. Stop with these pathetic attention seeking threads and go play the game, you learn so much by actually playing the game, talking to other players in game and seeing how they do things, the forums are really a second rate resource for learning an appreciation of the game compared to 'just playing'.

    b:cute
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  • BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur
    BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur Posts: 1,842 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    despite the fact he'll never even hit level 100 as he spends all day fantasising over gear, rerolling alts and making a prat of himself on the forums.

    Ouch!

    Is he your little brother or something?
    "And as for bragging, I don't need to brag. I am famous, yo. My accomplishments are legendary. I am BLOODMYSTIC, speaker of truth, bane of the Barbarians of Impulse, slayer of the **** of Narla, liberator of all the free peoples of the Archosaur server, former master propagandist for our leader in freedom, Proski, and Archtroll of the PWI Forums. And now? Amiable pve wizard, beloved by all, aka BLUEMYSTIC. Pleased to make your acquaintance."
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