Good spot to grind for spirit?

Minzo - Sanctuary · October 2010

Can anyone recommend a good place to grind for a good amount of spirit for a 60~ cleric?
Would foxwing supremes above tusk town be good? or is there any other spots?
Thanks b:victory

Votum_Laeto - Heavens Tear · October 2010

When I was in my 60s I tried the Foxwing Surpremes because many people suggested them but I personally really disliked them. I found the Vampiric Nightstalkers (level 62, located above Dreaming Cloud) to be perfect to grind on. Amazing drops and they give a bit more exp & spirit than the Foxwings.

In addition to grinding on the Nightstalkers, I also grinded on the Petalii Hexkiss (disliked them only because most of them were around mobs that aggro'd easily and did only physical damage), and I believe the Soulchasing Vipent Abominations. The Vipents were really easy, fun kills, but the Nightstalkers gave better exp/spirit and better drops, so I moved to them after a day or two of the Vipents. When choosing what to grind on, take into account the ease at which you can kill the mobs. You don't want to rack up large repair bills or use a ton of mana pots/charms.

Here's a spreadsheet of 19 of the mobs in the 60s ranked highest to lowest according to the amount of spirit you get from killing them. It shows the name, level, element, life (HP), exp, and spirit of the mobs. The exp/spirit is what you get when you're fighting them at their level, I believe (all data taken from pwdatabase.com). The ones highlighted in yellow are wood mobs, weak against metal and the green ones are the ones I remember grinding on.

http://tinyurl.com/2uh4r36

Thelas_Carr - Sanctuary · October 2010

I didn't check Votum's spreadsheet but it's along the right idea... as a cleric you want wood mobs that are weak to metal magic and you want a high spirit-to-HP ratio... Ranking by raw spirit could pit you against a mob with higher HPs than another mobs so it's the ratio that's more important. These are the best mobs for that HP-to-Exp ratio (fastest kill rate) in the 60s for a cleric:

Name                 Exists Level  Element              Life	Exp	SP	Ratio
Sori Gnawer          Y      61     Wood, weak Metal	14,951	308	64	49
Petalii Hexkiss      Y      61     Wood, weak Metal	14,951	307	64	49
Soulchasing Vipent   Y      63     Wood, weak Metal	15,739	318	66	49
Noxtouch Bone Mason  Y      63     Wood, weak Metal	15,739	317	66	50
Noxtouch Boneglow    Y      66     Wood, weak Metal	17,456	333	69	52
Kugulu Sentry        Y      62     Wood, weak Metal	17,047	312	65	55
Catacomb Archer      Y      65     Wood, weak Metal	18,928	326	68	58
Arboreal Cannibal    Y      62     Wood, weak Metal	59,284	860	179	69
Florafang Guard      Y      63     Wood, weak Metal	60,816	877	182	69
Pinescout            Y      63     Wood, weak Metal	60,816	874	182	70
Woodland Dranite     Y      63     Wood, weak Metal	60,816	873	182	70
Deadmarsh Petalii    Y      67     Wood, weak Metal	72,101	971	202	74
Deadmarsh Vipion     Y      68     Wood, weak Metal	73,841	987	204	75
Scorpid Vemon Master Y      60     Wood, weak Metal	68,263	829	174	82
Rattus Miner         Y      62     Wood, weak Metal	72,458	859	179	84
Viperex Megalith     Y      63     Wood, weak Metal	74,330	871	182	85
Tragic Gatekeeper    Y      60     Wood, weak Metal	79,788	829	174	96
Catacomb Archer      Y      65     Wood, weak Metal	94,640	978	204	97

In the low 60s a Sori Gnawer or Petali Hexkiss are your best bet while in the high 60s Deadmarsh Petalii & Vipions are the most efficient.

Pellaz - Heavens Tear · October 2010

While the above post is an excellent reference, it should be noted that if you are grinding purely for EXP, flying and water mobs will generally give more EXP per kill.

As such:

Lv. 37-44: Native Vipion (Lv. 41)
Lv. 45-52: Evolved Vipion (Lv. 50)
Lv. 52-57: Vipiion Revolutionary (Lv. 54)
Lv. 58-62: Foxwing Supreme (Lv. 60)
Lv. 63-64: Vampiric Nightstalker (Lv. 62)
Lv. 65-70: Minion of Alucard (Lv. 68)
Lv. 71-74: Carrion Vulture (Lv. 72)
Lv. 75-82: Mothran Dazzlewing (Lv. 80)
Lv. 83-90. Ultrafin Supreme (Lv. 88) or Malicious Cadevil (Lv. 85)

BarbLord - Raging Tide · October 2010

If you want money and spirit ignore this post, otherwise
Do your bhs and dump the unneeded exp in a genie
This will get you lots of spirit in no time

LifeAfterDth - Heavens Tear · October 2010

level up your razor feathers and purify and head south of the swamp to the Petalii Hexkiss. There wood mobs (weak to metal) and they damage you over time giving you plenty time to kill them. You can easily gather 8-10, heal, purify, razor until dead. Training scrolls help a little too but in short, you can aoe several at a time and end up with decent drops, xp and sp.

BarbLord, whats this "unneeded" xp u speak of? lol

Katzyn - Sanctuary · October 2010

LifeAfterDth - Heavens Tear wrote: »

level up your razor feathers and purify and head south of the swamp to the Petalii Hexkiss. There wood mobs (weak to metal) and they damage you over time giving you plenty time to kill them. You can easily gather 8-10, heal, purify, razor until dead. Training scrolls help a little too but in short, you can aoe several at a time and end up with decent drops, xp and sp.

^ This. On my cleric, I do this with whatever poison mobs are nearest to my level, and it's great.

MystiMonk - Sanctuary · October 2010

You may want to tell us what skills you have lvled to 10 and hp and mp.For instance I can now grind on lvl 83 non mobs around immolation camp and the wood mobs around east barrier village.I just use Wield Thunder,Plume Shot and Great Cyclone.

Decus - Dreamweaver · October 2010

LifeAfterDth - Heavens Tear wrote: »

BarbLord, whats this "unneeded" xp u speak of?

If you want to max all of your skills for your level without adding more to the list (read: leveling up), you ought to put your exp into a genie. That way you can collect SP and prevent any leveling.

Minzo - Sanctuary · October 2010

Sorry for a late reply. Im lvl 63 now...and I want to grind for spirit... exp and coin isn't a big deal right now... As for my stats and skills... My stats(With equips/BUFFS)...
2362 HP - 6026 MP
Vit 61 Magic 290 Str 45 Dex 13
Magic atk 3874-4393
Phys atk 420-602
Accuracy 65 Evasion 254
Physical Def 425
Metal res 3279
Wood res 5275
Water res 6237
Fire res 3851
Earth res 5697
And -6% channeling

My skills...
Ironheart, Plume Shot, Cyclone all maxed.
All 30min buffs maxed and all squad buffs maxed.
Wellspring surge LVL 8
Revive LVL 8 (want to max it right away)
Purify LVL 3
Squad heal Lvl 3
Stream of Rejuvenation LVL 1
Regeneration Aura LVL 1 maxed?
Elemental Seal LVL 1
Plume Shell LVL 5
Razor Feathers LVL 2 (>_<)
Siren kiss LVL 1
Wield Thunder LVL 1
Tempest LVL 1
Blessing of pureheart only LVL 4 (was told not to max.. should I sometime?)
Metal Mastery LVL 2... really need to max this >.>
Flight Mastery LVL 7

What skills should I start maxing right away? Thanks for the list of mobs I'll try them out

Thanks for all the help too

Skybelle - Sanctuary · October 2010

In my opinion, Wield Thunder should be a priority for you right now. Your skills are mostly up to date and Wield Thunder is a great opening skill to mobs.

Metal Mastery, you don't need to worry about until you get a surplus of spirit. In your 70s, you'll get more EXP/Spirit to max most of your skills.

Razor Feathers is good if you're going to AOE grind on poison (wood) mobs but you'll need at least lv. 5 purify to be safe.

lv. 5 Squad heal would be good too, until you decide to go do Frost runs.

Blessing of the Purehearted shouldn't be touched until you get the sage/demon version of it.

Grinding for spirit at your level won't really help. If I were you, I'd just continue doing your BHs, quests, CS (dailies) until you hit 7x and worry about most of your skills later.

Message me in game if you need further help. Good luck! b:cute

Keliska - Raging Tide · October 2010

BarbLord - Raging Tide wrote: »

If you want money and spirit ignore this post, otherwise
Do your bhs and dump the unneeded exp in a genie
This will get you lots of spirit in no time

This is what I do, if you want to be the same level and just need the spirit use this route. Afterwards continue on with the bhs to level 65. After that, you'd prolly be best to continue but, it seems rather boring.

Keliska - Raging Tide · October 2010

Skybelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

In my opinion, Wield Thunder should be a priority for you right now. Your skills are mostly up to date and Wield Thunder is a great opening skill to mobs.

Metal Mastery, you don't need to worry about until you get a surplus of spirit. In your 70s, you'll get more EXP/Spirit to max most of your skills.

Razor Feathers is good if you're going to AOE grind on poison (wood) mobs but you'll need at least lv. 5 purify to be safe.

lv. 5 Squad heal would be good too, until you decide to go do Frost runs.

Blessing of the Purehearted shouldn't be touched until you get the sage/demon version of it.

Grinding for spirit at your level won't really help. If I were you, I'd just continue doing your BHs, quests, CS (dailies) until you hit 7x and worry about most of your skills later.

Message me in game if you need further help. Good luck! b:cute

sorry about DP

Weild Thunder is indeed used as your opening move as soon as you learn it.
Metal Mastery is recommended to learn asap
Razor Feathers is ****
Blessing of the Purehearted is also ****

BotP is never used due to the upgraded version of it later. Squad heal + regen. (I asume it's BB)

Thunderstorm or w/e the move is called is preferred.

Cocobelle - Sanctuary · October 2010

Keliska - Raging Tide wrote: »

sorry about DP

Weild Thunder is indeed used as your opening move as soon as you learn it.
Metal Mastery is recommended to learn asap
Razor Feathers is ****
Blessing of the Purehearted is also ****

BotP is never used due to the upgraded version of it later. Squad heal + regen. (I asume it's BB)

Thunderstorm or w/e the move is called is preferred.

You probably don't know how to use it properly, then. b:chuckle

Keliska - Raging Tide · October 2010

Well personally, I got it off the wiki.

To tell you the truth I must agree, unless at later levels it's attack span is widen by a lot more (like it's range at lvl 1 x 5) it rather does suck when you include it's casting time.

Thelas_Carr - Sanctuary · October 2010

Pellaz - Heavens Tear wrote: »

While the above post is an excellent reference, it should be noted that if you are grinding purely for EXP, flying and water mobs will generally give more EXP per kill.

As such:

Lv. 37-44: Native Vipion (Lv. 41)
Lv. 45-52: Evolved Vipion (Lv. 50)
Lv. 52-57: Vipiion Revolutionary (Lv. 54)
Lv. 58-62: Foxwing Supreme (Lv. 60)
Lv. 63-64: Vampiric Nightstalker (Lv. 62)
Lv. 65-70: Minion of Alucard (Lv. 68)
Lv. 71-74: Carrion Vulture (Lv. 72)
Lv. 75-82: Mothran Dazzlewing (Lv. 80)
Lv. 83-90. Ultrafin Supreme (Lv. 88) or Malicious Cadevil (Lv. 85)

As noted in my eariler post the ratio of Life-to-EXP and a weakness to metal-magic is more important than raw EXP per kill... if you choose a mob that gives 5% more EXP than another mob, but it takes you 20% longer to kill that higher EXP mob, then you lose out in the long run... it's always better to grind the mobs you can kill the fastest and that are closest to your level. Just because some mob gives "more EXP per kill" than another mob doesn't make it a better one to grind on (my list did not exclude flying/water mobs, but that's mostly irrelevant anyway; just choose the lowest life-to-EXP ratio for mobs at your level weak to your kind of magic).

Edit: Sometimes quantization breaks are not that clean... if there's a few low life-to-EXP ratio mobs near you but you can 2-shot one of them and all other mob types take 3-shots, then obviously grind the 2-shot mob type! ^_^

MystiMonk - Sanctuary · October 2010

Keliska - Raging Tide wrote: »

Well personally, I got it off the wiki.

To tell you the truth I must agree, unless at later levels it's attack span is widen by a lot more (like it's range at lvl 1 x 5) it rather does suck when you include it's casting time.

Don't read what is say off the wiki read what is says here

Skill
Razor Feathers Level 10
Range 26.5meters
Mana 306.0
Channel 2.5 seconds
Cast 1.5 seconds
Cooldown 8.0 seconds
Weapon Unarmed, Magic Instruments

Requisite Cultivation Aware of Principle
Manipulate your wings to form countless quill blades to attack the target and
all enemies within 8.0 meters radius around it. Inflicts physical
damage equal to base magic attack plus 200% of weapon damage plus 2258.2.

http://www.ecatomb.net/skillpwi.php

Cocobelle - Sanctuary · October 2010

Keliska - Raging Tide wrote: »

Well personally, I got it off the wiki.

To tell you the truth I must agree, unless at later levels it's attack span is widen by a lot more (like it's range at lvl 1 x 5) it rather does suck when you include it's casting time.

It's your second skill that does physical damage, so it's definitely not ****. Sure, the range isn't the best but if you have proper timing to use it, it will have its uses. It's casting time won't matter if you're using it as an opener skill for AOE grinding. ijs.

Healladiin - Harshlands · November 2010

Votum_Laeto - Heavens Tear wrote: »

When I was in my 60s I tried the Foxwing Surpremes because many people suggested them but I personally really disliked them. I found the Vampiric Nightstalkers (level 62, located above Dreaming Cloud) to be perfect to grind on. Amazing drops and they give a bit more exp & spirit than the Foxwings.

In addition to grinding on the Nightstalkers, I also grinded on the Petalii Hexkiss (disliked them only because most of them were around mobs that aggro'd easily and did only physical damage), and I believe the Soulchasing Vipent Abominations. The Vipents were really easy, fun kills, but the Nightstalkers gave better exp/spirit and better drops, so I moved to them after a day or two of the Vipents. When choosing what to grind on, take into account the ease at which you can kill the mobs. You don't want to rack up large repair bills or use a ton of mana pots/charms.

Here's a spreadsheet of 19 of the mobs in the 60s ranked highest to lowest according to the amount of spirit you get from killing them. It shows the name, level, element, life (HP), exp, and spirit of the mobs. The exp/spirit is what you get when you're fighting them at their level, I believe (all data taken from pwdatabase.com). The ones highlighted in yellow are wood mobs, weak against metal and the green ones are the ones I remember grinding on.

http://tinyurl.com/2uh4r36

now there is a field to the southeast of village of the dreaming cloud that has MASSES of petali hexkisses(lvl 61 wood mob, ranged that puts stacking wood dot on you.) use your tempest( hopefully you have that skill) and razorfeathers. once u hit 70 go to village of the lost and go due west from there and u'll c a small lake divided by a VERY small spit of land from a large lake about ten second's flying from the village. aggro 10 orchid petalis(the hexkisses' bigger, much meaner lvl 72 cousin that is the hexkiss on STEROIDS and u'll have done a lvl 40's quest in about 2 minutes exp and sp wise with decent dq drops. At least that's the way I roll aoe grind wise since I hit 70.

Healladiin - Harshlands · November 2010

what's helped me aoe grinding is I have invested in siren's kiss up to lvl 9, it's other metal aoe and has the chance to freeze some of the enemies for 3 seconds, with all my + to accuracy gear I've managed to two shot some of the groups I've aoed thanks to that skill and tempest.

Good spot to grind for spirit?

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