BH 3-3 boss a wimp again!

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  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    I only hope that upcoming drops x2 Event stay on hold until HH get fixed to how it was before last update (patch 426).

    They should also make it so if you drop below 4 squad members they kick you out of the instance... and all 4 squad members should have separate and unique IP addresses too, huh? b:chuckle
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  • SgtSIaughter - Heavens Tear
    SgtSIaughter - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,225 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    They should also make it so if you drop below 4 squad members they kick you out of the instance... and all 4 squad members should have separate and unique IP addresses too, huh? b:chuckle

    That sounds like the best solution.
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  • xxxdsmer
    xxxdsmer Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Great, I hope they don't change back this.

    Now... can we have either a better TW system or the old one at least?



    NO!
    ffs ppl we dont need 300million or 300billion in coins just pouring into the game outta thin air just from owning a map. its what f'd up the other versions do you really want that here?

    the "old TW system" IS WHY THINGS ARE SO EXPENSIVE NOW. but u TW babies cant frign see this.
    i'm pro all classes, and against none in particular..
    but the age old QQ about venos is just that. OLD.
    QQ'd about a nix lately? check out this thread n tell me who's "OP" lol..
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  • Crazydan - Heavens Tear
    Crazydan - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,178 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Changes too hard for average players orginal WAYYY too easy even for average players somewhere in the middle would be nice plz
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  • Okeano - Harshlands
    Okeano - Harshlands Posts: 4,943 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    xxxdsmer wrote: »
    NO!
    ffs ppl we dont need 300million or 300billion in coins just pouring into the game outta thin air just from owning a map. its what f'd up the other versions do you really want that here?

    the "old TW system" IS WHY THINGS ARE SO EXPENSIVE NOW. but u TW babies cant frign see this.

    Things such as? I remember when imac citrines use to sell for 3 mil. Cala axes use to be 4 mil and now they are hard to sell at 400k.
  • SgtSIaughter - Heavens Tear
    SgtSIaughter - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,225 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    xxxdsmer wrote: »
    NO!
    ffs ppl we dont need 300million or 300billion in coins just pouring into the game outta thin air just from owning a map. its what f'd up the other versions do you really want that here?

    the "old TW system" IS WHY THINGS ARE SO EXPENSIVE NOW. but u TW babies cant frign see this.

    Just another person who has no clue what they are talking about.
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  • Asheera - Raging Tide
    Asheera - Raging Tide Posts: 830 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Well...hello easy-as-**** 3-x again.

    Behe wasn't that bad. Emp would be fine without the extra magic AOE. Hadn't really tried Steel or Arma so no opinion on them.

    I mean, I don't really mind the new or the old ones. Mostly just liked the challenge.
    Behe was fine and I loved the challenge (except 3-1 one too hard for level 90s) but what sucked about Steelation, Emperor and Illusion Lord was that their actions were too random and too much spammed. They should give the special attacks longer "cooldowns" it was ridiculous... ESPECIALLY with Illusion gawd.
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  • Kitamura - Lost City
    Kitamura - Lost City Posts: 253 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    They should also make it so if you drop below 4 squad members they kick you out of the instance... and all 4 squad members should have separate and unique IP addresses too, huh? b:chuckle

    I agree with that, it wont be a problem since I can connect my 6 active computers to 6 different IPs with just 10min of rewiring and changing config data of network adapters.

    one of my ISPs even let me choose my IP from a list of 15 country ranges to bypass filters (takes 10sec to reboot and get another country ID) b:pleased
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  • WraithTanker - Sanctuary
    WraithTanker - Sanctuary Posts: 344 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    xxxdsmer wrote: »
    NO!
    ffs ppl we dont need 300million or 300billion in coins just pouring into the game outta thin air just from owning a map. its what f'd up the other versions do you really want that here?

    the "old TW system" IS WHY THINGS ARE SO EXPENSIVE NOW. but u TW babies cant frign see this.

    so token of best luck/packs dont pour that much in game?
  • SgtSIaughter - Heavens Tear
    SgtSIaughter - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,225 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    so token of best luck/packs dont pour that much in game?

    I wasnt counting but today i have seen like 400 ppl getting tokens of best luck, what is that? 2bil coin out of thin air in 1 day? yeah, must be the TW pay.
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    Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat." ~Sun Tzu

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  • Valrain - Archosaur
    Valrain - Archosaur Posts: 105 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Reading this forum makes me sad for the human race, because it brings out two pertinent points of the human condition:

    1. People will find a reason to complain about absolutely everything. No matter what happens, people are just chronically unhappy and pissed off.

    2. A significant percentage of the human population lacks even basic cognitive skills in reason and logic.

    I think the two may be related. In fact, I think condition 2 is the primary cause of condition 1. b:chuckle
  • sleepcat
    sleepcat Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2010

    No, that is fine. It's the way it's meant to be done. Please leave it this way.
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  • Traz - Dreamweaver
    Traz - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,843 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    They should also make it so if you drop below 4 squad members they kick you out of the instance... and all 4 squad members should have separate and unique IP addresses too, huh? b:chuckle

    Start from here edit and build on it.
    THE FIX
    They need to revert the bosses back and change how the drop rate works. They can change this to directly affect the number of people doing damage to the boss vs how well the drop rate is going to turn out.

    STIPULATIONS
    -People in the squad must all be at the boss and all doing CONSTANT damage, not tag them along and let them hit once (this takes into account for 5 players doing damage 1 cleric)
    -There must be at least 4 people in squad or they all get kicked

    DROP RATES
    Based on people doing constant damage the whole fight
    1 person = no drops GTFO out of SQUAD mode
    2 people = very minor drop rate but still wont be worth it
    3 people = slightly better then 2
    4 people = much better then 3 but still about 3/4 current drop rates
    5 people = same as current drop rates
    6 people = 1 1/4 or 1 1/2 the current drop rates

    CONCLUSION
    You're welcome GMs I just fixed your problem in 5 minutes better then your developers could in 1 1/2 years and this stops people from farming the isntances AND keeps the players happy. Was that so hard?
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  • sleepcat
    sleepcat Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    What if there's more than 1 Cleric in the squad?
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  • Darksylph - Heavens Tear
    Darksylph - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,816 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    xxxdsmer wrote: »
    NO!
    ffs ppl we dont need 300million or 300billion in coins just pouring into the game outta thin air just from owning a map. its what f'd up the other versions do you really want that here?

    the "old TW system" IS WHY THINGS ARE SO EXPENSIVE NOW. but u TW babies cant frign see this.

    I rarely say this so bluntly...

    but you sir, are an idiot.
  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    I agree with that, it wont be a problem since I can connect my 6 active computers to 6 different IPs with just 10min of rewiring and changing config data of network adapters.

    one of my ISPs even let me choose my IP from a list of 15 country ranges to bypass filters (takes 10sec to reboot and get another country ID) b:pleased

    lol, you're really evil.
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  • Miugre - Heavens Tear
    Miugre - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,390 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    I repeat: ITT, overpowered people QQing that they can't sell TT mats for ridiculous prices anymore.

    Seriously, who freakin' cares if TT mats are more available? Did someone suddenly lose their precious merchanting source? I'm rarely this blunt, but if that's the case my only response is "QQ more." The game changes. Find new ways to make money. We've all had to do it.

    If you're an overpowered 5aps sin and you can do TT3 in 30 mins, I say, more power to you. All you'll accomplish is making more and more modest profits as you pump more mats into the economy. Meanwhile, I'll be farming some of the mats I need with a real squad, one that actually finds TT3 fun and challenging instead of a profit source. And the mats I don't get? Well, I'll buy them for cheap.

    Seems to me, anytime the power-farmers and power-merchants get something that helps them, they defend it... then when anything is changed so they make less profit, oh my god it's the end of the world, and they QQ like a spoiled child refusing to let go of a toy.

    Oh, and for the record, "waaaah now everybody has TT armor instead of just me QQQQQQ" is not an argument either.
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  • Aubree - Dreamweaver
    Aubree - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,868 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Mobs quest still exist in 2-3 but it doesn't record mobs kills. So mob quests gone too?
  • Sirsmokealot - Raging Tide
    Sirsmokealot - Raging Tide Posts: 320 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Farmed 3 peices of my TT90 in one night b:pleased and have half the mats for my chest. While I love that I can do these bosses I was starting to feel a little sleepy in 3-1 I have to admit I prefered GBA the hard way but I admit to he was to hard... Unless you took two barbs and two clerics but now is slightly to easy.

    I dont wanna sound like someone who is happy neither way but I would like them made a little harder... Not stupidly hard but hard enough to keep you on your toes now its just back to 1 cleric and flash ream.

    Time to start working on my TT99 gear before its changed could be a long long long night b:surrender

    Glad to see OP people will not be making as much money seems in this game the rich get richer and the poorer get poorer
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  • Wolfanger - Harshlands
    Wolfanger - Harshlands Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    OMG...

    So many people were complaining about those bosses which were really impossible to kill (even for some people with Nirvana +10 who got pwned by Steelation in TT 3-1, NO COMMENT with our "little" HH90 stuff!!!), and so now, people think that it's way too easy, that it was better before...

    I really get mad about that kind of behaviour, never happy about something which makes the game more pleasant (excuse-me to remind you, but nobody likes to get One Shot, and it's harder with classical HH90 gear, for normal players...). I remember when I saw all those players in WC, QQing for their mats (even BIG C$ers). Kinda unbalanced: the end-game gear was really unavailable...

    So, we must think about what we say ... It's really absurd, maybe frightening...
  • Sirsmokealot - Raging Tide
    Sirsmokealot - Raging Tide Posts: 320 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    OMG...

    So many people were complaining about those bosses which were really impossible to kill (even for some people with Nirvana +10 who got pwned by Steelation in TT 3-1, NO COMMENT with our "little" HH90 stuff!!!), and so now, people think that it's way too easy, that it was better before...

    I really get mad about that kind of behaviour, never happy about something which makes the game more pleasant (excuse-me to remind you, but nobody likes to get One Shot, and it's harder with classical HH90 gear, for normal players...). I remember when I saw all those players in WC, QQing for their mats (even BIG C$ers). Kinda unbalanced: the end-game gear was really unavailable...

    So, we must think about what we say ... It's really absurd, maybe frightening...

    Theres a point where it is either insanly hard or insanly easy just moving between the two of them is not the anwser. Im not claiming I want it hard like before im claiming that sitting there just Flash Reaming over and over is about as fun as replying to posts on this forum at least before I had to keep my mind active I dam almost fell asleep in 3-1 last night.


    Not super hard not super easy surley we can find a balance?

    Think back to the first time you did GBA since he was hardend remeber that satisification you got when you killed him?...Thats because you had to work for it

    Killed him last night and moved on to the next boss no satisfication or job well done feeling was there
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  • Wolfanger - Harshlands
    Wolfanger - Harshlands Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    My post wasn't for yours totally, I speak for whole people who are QQing.

    But so... I farmed my stuff before the patch, and I'm really happy about that. I have never done the hard version entirely, ever died cause of Random aggro and Cleric owned...
    Well... I don't really like TT, because it takes too much time: all I want is a fast run, even if it's boring (yes, I'm not a no-life lol). If a boss just own me over and over, I'll be irritated instead of taking it for a challenge.
    So many people haven't farmed their HH90 plate since that patch, and of course it's the most interesting piece in the stuff. It still reduces chances for them to suceed (enjoy your mold 79 HA lol)...

    A bit harder than normal version, why not, but it was kinda absurd...
  • Darksylph - Heavens Tear
    Darksylph - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,816 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Think back to the first time you did GBA since he was hardend remeber that satisification you got when you killed him?...Thats because you had to work for it

    Killed him last night and moved on to the next boss no satisfication or job well done feeling was there

    Yopu're 95, killing a boss meant for 88s in armor prior to any TT90. of course it was easy for you. It was an accomplishment your 1st time cause you were probably alot lower level & trying to farm your TT90. Thats how it was meant to be, doable for 88-90 level people without any TT90. And i'm glad its back to that way so people can get their armor rather then a few elites using it as a cash crop.
  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    They need to make a 3-4 with the hard bosses again.

    Give those bosses an increased chance to drop and gold 3-x mat b:victory
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  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    They need to make a 3-4 with the hard bosses again.

    Give those bosses an increased chance to drop and gold 3-x mat b:victory

    That would be a better idea.

    Either that or a different sub-mode...

    Pillar > solo / squad

    Pillar > 3-1 / 3-2 / 3-3

    Pillar > mid / high / EXTREME

    Make it cost 6 subs and have the drop rate set at 2x with the modified difficulty setting.
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  • Regenbogen - Lost City
    Regenbogen - Lost City Posts: 1,559 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    They need to make a 3-4 with the hard bosses again.

    Give those bosses an increased chance to drop and gold 3-x mat b:victory

    hell no!

    there was a video on youtube 3-3 with the "hard bosses" in 20minutes...

    anything without bramble cant be considered hard for a full 5aps squad...b:lipcurl
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  • Katzyn - Sanctuary
    Katzyn - Sanctuary Posts: 1,270 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    They need to make a 3-4 with the hard bosses again.

    Give those bosses an increased chance to drop and gold 3-x mat b:victory
    That would be a better idea.

    Either that or a different sub-mode...

    Pillar > solo / squad

    Pillar > 3-1 / 3-2 / 3-3

    Pillar > mid / high / EXTREME

    Make it cost 6 subs and have the drop rate set at 2x with the modified difficulty setting.

    I love both of these ideas.
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  • Regenbogen - Lost City
    Regenbogen - Lost City Posts: 1,559 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    That would be a better idea.

    Either that or a different sub-mode...

    Pillar > solo / squad

    Pillar > 3-1 / 3-2 / 3-3

    Pillar > mid / high / STILL TOO EASY FOR FULL 5APS SQUADS

    Make it cost 6 subs and have the drop rate set at 2x with the modified difficulty setting.

    suggesting this name
    i am waiting for you my little flagcarriers b:kiss
  • Crescendia - Harshlands
    Crescendia - Harshlands Posts: 805 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    I don't care if its easy again. At least the people who want to play this game will have the chance to farm those mats again OR buy at a reasonable price instead of the OP people controlling the market.

    Don't ever change it back.
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  • Eoria - Harshlands
    Eoria - Harshlands Posts: 6,118 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Oi...lets just make 3-1 "reasonably harder":

    1. Behe does his AOE stun like in 3-2/3-3 but without the random aggro
    2. Steel does his sleep/earth DOT AOE, but not as often
    3. Mirage...a water AOE like the first boss of old Lunar?
    4. Hag should do a metal DOT AOE like Massacre Seven :B

    That reasonably hard enough? I mean...3-1 as it is now is way too easy. Especially compared to it's TT90 counterpart 2-3.
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