archer's stat effect

Docpetiot - Sanctuary
Docpetiot - Sanctuary Posts: 29 Arc User
edited October 2010 in Archer
My main archer is now 85, and I was thinking of waiting to reach 90 to get dragonbow, but i read on another thread that vastland got higher dps. Then I went to pwdatabase to compare. It seems that vastland got better dps, but to confirm that, I need to know how much damage i'll get for each point in dex. DB is +4 in dex compared to VS. Both got same APS, and average damage, including the 1% in crit for DB, make it +88.42 in favor of VS if I dont take into account the +4 in dex for DB.
I looked for the effect of +1 in dex on the net, but couldnt find anything. I couldn't even find information about effect of +1 in vit in archer's hp, +1 in int in archer's mp (not that i want to increase those, but it's kind of basic knowledge I'd like to keep in mind).
I am pretty sure I already read those kind of informations in whatever web page, but can't find it.
Any one could be kind enough to provide those information or to give me an appropriate link?

Edit: I realize VS bonus is on max PA, not PA, so that make it +49.42 instead of +88.42 in favor of VS without include the +4 in dex for DB.

Edit2: Finally I found what I wanted in annor's guide. as it's (dex/150)xPD, this provide +28.213 for DB with the +4 dex, so finally +21.207 in favor of VS. I still would like to have link to web page giving complete informations about effect of stats on hp, dammage, mp and so on.
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  • ImReallyWhyt - Heavens Tear
    ImReallyWhyt - Heavens Tear Posts: 113 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    i dunno..i just get what hits the hardest..
  • KageYingZi - Heavens Tear
    KageYingZi - Heavens Tear Posts: 823 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/
    This is a good website to test out builds to see which has more damage etc. and it has small,minute errors which don't matter too much
    Just input your gear and stats and change those you want accordingly.
  • Kaste - Sanctuary
    Kaste - Sanctuary Posts: 1,353 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Just use calc to build your archer as you wish. Insert stats in that calculator down there, exchange weapons again, and you see the difference =).


    (highest base dmg + lowest base dmg)/2 = x
    attack rate = y
    critical hit rate = z

    Dmg/s = xy((z/100)+1)

    X :
    Y :
    Z :
    DPS:
    Wep:
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  • Docpetiot - Sanctuary
    Docpetiot - Sanctuary Posts: 29 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Thank you for those answers.
    I know http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/
    but, maybe because i taught math for more than 8 years, and I am in PhD, I prefer to do the calculation by myself.
    My conclusion, if we take into account refining, is that DB become better than VS for ref+6 (but it's not even +1 without including dex and crits, so, considering an average archer build at 90, should be about +1.5, ie almost no difference).
  • Fleuri - Sanctuary
    Fleuri - Sanctuary Posts: 1,763 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    The damage equation looks like:

    bonus * equipment * levels

    levels are based on attack levels, approximately 1 + 0.01 * attack levels (though there is a thread somewhere that goes into much greater detail on this). Critical hits double this result, when they occur.

    equipment is the sum of your own level plus all your gear damage (including shards)

    bonus is approximately 1 + (0.01 * dexterity)+spark + barb buff + weapon buff

    barb buff depends on the skill level of the barbarian that buffs you.

    weapon buff is 100% for the bonus which reduces your health or pdef, and 5/11 for the bonus which increases your health.

    you can also sometimes get other such damage increasing buffs -- they usually stack though I have seen some unfortunate cases where they overwrote other buffs. (But they fixed the case that bothered me -- chrono fragments and my cross bow's buff -- after I reported it.)

    strength increases your physical resistances by 1/850 of your base, magic does the same for your elemental resistances. I am not quite sure about vitality, I think it might do the same for both, but it might use a slightly lower ration -- like maybe 1/1000? I just do not know.

    And 20 points in dexterity give you 1% critical hit chance.

    If you search archer threads you should be able to find some discussion of most of these issues. I think the first sticky thread here has most of this. And you should trust it over anything I said right now, because I have a poor memory.

    Meanwhile, you should keep in mind that its not just how much damage you do, but when. DPS matters a lot but this game is balanced so that sometimes it does not matter quite so much.
  • Elenacostel - Heavens Tear
    Elenacostel - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,822 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Link: Weapon Comparison for 70+ (Concise) - by Legerity.
    Link: Abridged Weapon Comparison (External) - by Elena Costel.
    Link: Weapon Comparison for 95+ (In-depth) - by Elena Costel.

    Link: Damage Formula - PWI Wiki

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