cyclone heel?

Furries - Dreamweaver
Furries - Dreamweaver Posts: 966 Arc User
edited October 2010 in Blademaster
hi i have a lvl 49 bm who just got cyclone heel

i have fists and my only interval is a -.05 pair of lvl 44 wrists

so i just finished my sc49 and tryied out cycle heel.. i got the attck speed buff icon but when i viewed my aps it still stayed 1.54.

at what lvl cyclone heel will my attack speed actully increase? cuase right now its rather pointless to use it.
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  • I_sage_i - Harshlands
    I_sage_i - Harshlands Posts: 332 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Furries - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    hi i have a lvl 49 bm who just got cyclone heel

    i have fists and my only interval is a -.05 pair of lvl 44 wrists

    so i just finished my sc49 and tryied out cycle heel.. i got the attck speed buff icon but when i viewed my aps it still stayed 1.54.

    at what lvl cyclone heel will my attack speed actully increase? cuase right now its rather pointless to use it.

    i think level 3 or 4 u actually see the increase.
  • Kupuntu - Sanctuary
    Kupuntu - Sanctuary Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Level 2 for the 1.43 aps, not sure about 1.54 as I don't have it (or any higher for that matter) myself.
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  • I_sage_i - Harshlands
    I_sage_i - Harshlands Posts: 332 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Kupuntu - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Level 2 for the 1.43 aps, not sure about 1.54 as I don't have it (or any higher for that matter) myself.

    mmk i have lvl 6 cyclone heel and i get 1.54...if i get lvl 7 will i get a faster aps?
  • Kupuntu - Sanctuary
    Kupuntu - Sanctuary Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    I_sage_i - Harshlands wrote: »
    mmk i have lvl 6 cyclone heel and i get 1.54...if i get lvl 7 will i get a faster aps?

    Not sure about level 7, if you plan to get it to 10 this should be helpful. http://www.scribd.com/doc/37673827/BM-Attack-Speed-Increase
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  • I_sage_i - Harshlands
    I_sage_i - Harshlands Posts: 332 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Kupuntu - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Not sure about level 7, if you plan to get it to 10 this should be helpful. http://www.scribd.com/doc/37673827/BM-Attack-Speed-Increase

    ya looks like it wount make a difference till lvl 10
  • Okeano - Harshlands
    Okeano - Harshlands Posts: 4,943 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    This should be a sticky. I don't have level 1 and 2 in there, but as you can see, level 3 heel will give you -0.05 if your base attack speed is 1.54.
  • Sakubatou - Sanctuary
    Sakubatou - Sanctuary Posts: 4,001 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    1.54 attacks/sec is actually .65 sec/attack. To get to the next bump of .6 sec/atk (1.66 aps) you would need to increase .65 by x% to reach at least .625 which would then round you to .6 sec/atk.

    You get that with a 4% increase, which is level 2 cyclone heel
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  • Telarith - Sanctuary
    Telarith - Sanctuary Posts: 1,417 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Okeano - Harshlands wrote: »
    This should be a sticky. I don't have level 1 and 2 in there, but as you can see, level 3 heel will give you -0.05 if your base attack speed is 1.54.

    From real early days of looking into -int:
    Sylvae - Sanctuary wrote: »
    One thing I recently found out, Cyclone Heel has a max stack ability dependent on the level of the skill.

    Lvl 1 does jack.
    Lvl 2 will stack with -.05, does nothing with -.1 already on gear
    Lvl 3 stacks with -.1

    It most likely continues from there, but just something of an FYI for any fist BM who gets the right gear for their character. Almost sent in a ticket, until I tried out increasing Cyclone and seeing that it finally stacked properly.

    So lvl 1 always does nothing with fist as weapon, lvl 2 will add -.05 with an existing -.05, nothing if higher existing -int. And lvl 3 is needed to get -.05 with an existing -.01
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  • Joshcja - Sanctuary
    Joshcja - Sanctuary Posts: 3,502 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Telarith - Sanctuary wrote: »
    From real early days of looking into -int:



    So lvl 1 always does nothing with fist as weapon, lvl 2 will add -.05 with an existing -.05, nothing if higher existing -int. And lvl 3 is needed to get -.05 with an existing -.01

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  • StormClash - Dreamweaver
    StormClash - Dreamweaver Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Sakubatou - Sanctuary wrote: »
    1.54 attacks/sec is actually .65 sec/attack. To get to the next bump of .6 sec/atk (1.66 aps) you would need to increase .65 by x% to reach at least .625 which would then round you to .6 sec/atk.

    You get that with a 4% increase, which is level 2 cyclone heel

    this is Furries's BM

    yeah i confirmed that lvl 2 cyclone will worth with -.05 to increase attack speed.
  • Arettarts - Raging Tide
    Arettarts - Raging Tide Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Telarith AND prof posting after a long while. I remember when all three of us would post support for fists. <3 Glad to see all of us pop in every now and again.
  • Finn_haar - Sanctuary
    Finn_haar - Sanctuary Posts: 107 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    I have cyclone lvl 10 and when I use it it goes from 1.43 to 1.67. you don't see a change every lvl but it's there believe me.. I believe around lvl 8 or 9 you actually see 1.67 in your info screen
  • Kaste - Sanctuary
    Kaste - Sanctuary Posts: 1,353 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    The higher your -int base is, the lesser effect it will have, meaning if you have like -0.1 int from equip it won't effect attack speed, I guess. I'll have to check once i get my hands on some -int equip i actually can equip.

    Edit: Level 10 will always affect attack speed =).
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  • prof
    prof Posts: 1,111
    edited October 2010
    i didn't even bother leveling this skill until i could max it. the speed bonus is negligible until it's maxed and have stacked interval gear.

    if you're using fist, you're over 85 i assume(http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/16110), and by then you should be able to max it. should also have the molder -.1 wrist(http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/14016).

    before 85, i don't see a use for fist. even dps wise, they suck next to an axe because they need stacked interval to shine.

    b:bye
  • Okeano - Harshlands
    Okeano - Harshlands Posts: 4,943 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Kaste - Sanctuary wrote: »
    The higher your -int base is, the lesser effect it will have, meaning if you have like -0.1 int from equip it won't effect attack speed, I guess. I'll have to check once i get my hands on some -int equip i actually can equip.

    Edit: Level 10 will always affect attack speed =).

    Table
    prof wrote: »

    before 85, i don't see a use for fist. even dps wise, they suck next to an axe because they need stacked interval to shine.

    b:bye

    They are still better for single target killing on magic mobs or bosses and will save you pots from spamming skills. At 60, the -0.1 interval makes a pretty big difference too.
  • Kaste - Sanctuary
    Kaste - Sanctuary Posts: 1,353 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Okeano - Harshlands wrote: »
    Table

    Why posting that twice?
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  • Okeano - Harshlands
    Okeano - Harshlands Posts: 4,943 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Kaste - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Why posting that twice?

    Because the table covers all the interval amount and most Cyclone levels, but your post sounded like you haven't seen the table yet.

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