Vit Cleric X Pure Cleric?

MysticAngell - Heavens Tear
MysticAngell - Heavens Tear Posts: 22 Arc User
edited October 2010 in Cleric
I have 124vit and 380mag my real question is should I go pure? I know ill be squishy and all that but when i duel a bm perhaps and a pure duels a bm its like why do i even have vit cause its like the pure and I are getting hit the same but the pure can 1-2 hit the bm while i have to like 4 hit. So it made me think is vit even essential to clerics? (My base vit is 75)
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  • miyago
    miyago Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    How much vit you have depends on your gear refinement. Your end result should be a decent amount of HP (6k+) and decent amount of Pdef (8k+). I'm not sure why you singled out BM in your duels, because I'm hoping you're not changing your build solely for beating BMs. Your magic attack can be upped with your weapon. Clerics are not meant to be damage dealers. If you really want to focus outputting the most damage on PvP, sure go pure. But realize that a cleric's primary focus is support and survival.
  • Nelae - Heavens Tear
    Nelae - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,490 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    I think that having over 100vit is over kill.
    I find that clerics can go without any "vit" if they watch out for their gear.
    But what you cant add with gear then you add with "vit" and it should not bee that huge amount.
    b:dirty
  • JanusZeal - Heavens Tear
    JanusZeal - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,852 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Unless you get heavy +magic stuff to offset your vit (which makes little sense when you can just refine) you're going to start noticing in certain instances (3-1 DC, 3-2, 3-3, and later Nirvana) where your heals may not have enough power to 'em. I would make sure you have 4500HP+ unbuffed, stat out maybe 100 vit, put on your gear, then check your HP. If you have enough keep it at that or stat out more vit, if not, tick as much into vit for that and put the rest into magic.
  • DaKillanator - Raging Tide
    DaKillanator - Raging Tide Posts: 2,965 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    2 hit the bm? with what? 2 tempest? b:laugh

    but seriosly- vit doesnt add much on a cleric. Refine everything to at least +3 and you should have sufficient hp.

    Plus adding more mag will mean better healing, which makes you better for squads and stacking yourself in pvp/solo
  • MystiMonk - Sanctuary
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary Posts: 4,286 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    ^What would that be sage or demon tempst?I have about 60 something vit 72 with armaments added and no shard only on the helmet and cape.

    I am wondering is it a good time to stop adding vit on mine.I am thinking of adding 10 more points is that good or not.
    Looking for a decent casual understanding Faction.
  • Sarrafeline - Sanctuary
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary Posts: 4,661 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Why hasn't anyone made a Fist cleric yet? There's a Fist Barb, Fist Veno, Fist Archer, Fist Sin...
    101 Sage Sin*/Archer
    100 Demon BM*/Barb
    96 Demon Cleric/Sage Seeker
    95 Demon Wiz/
    94 Sage Veno
    85 Psy/80 Mystic
    And a handful of other alts, all 79 and under.
    *Pre RB level
  • MystiMonk - Sanctuary
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary Posts: 4,286 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Why hasn't anyone made a Fist cleric yet? There's a Fist Barb, Fist Veno, Fist Archer, Fist Sin...

    It is probably because it is HA Veno as you see no fist wizard or physic.btw this is taking this thread off topic.
    Looking for a decent casual understanding Faction.
  • lylfo5
    lylfo5 Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Cuz of the demon/sage spark....
  • JanusZeal - Heavens Tear
    JanusZeal - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,852 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary wrote: »
    ^What would that be sage or demon tempst?I have about 60 something vit 72 with armaments added and no shard only on the helmet and cape.

    I am wondering is it a good time to stop adding vit on mine.I am thinking of adding 10 more points is that good or not.
    How much unbuffed HP, magic, and mp do you have?
  • MsEvilness - Heavens Tear
    MsEvilness - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,861 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    you will need decent equips to be full mag,,, but if you have good equips, then full mag is a good build
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    Originally posted by LShattered - HeavensTear
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  • MystiMonk - Sanctuary
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary Posts: 4,286 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    JanusZeal - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    How much unbuffed HP, magic, and mp do you have?

    My HP is 2500 mag is 314 mp is 7471 this is with gear still on as I didn't have room to take anything off.
    Looking for a decent casual understanding Faction.
  • JanusZeal - Heavens Tear
    JanusZeal - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,852 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    If you were on HT I could have given you a nice helm if you didn't have one, for when you hit 81. Was a cheaply +5 4-socket arcane hat that had decent shards+bonus vit/hp/magic stats that I bought for like 300-500k, which I bragged about for days. The only thing I can think of is do 1-3/2-1/2-2's to get your 80 gear, refine that to +3 with mirages and shard it with citrine/garnets. Your HP isn't bad at all for a 70s cleric. Depending on what you have unbuffed in the 80s (minus sleeves, which you'd obviously use sea captains) when you start facing bosses that do AOE (nob/pole) and, if you choose, doing FF's, you'll want a bit more HP for survival's sake (attaining 5001+ HP with barb buff as fast as reasonably possible, which I think is in the high 3000s unbuffed, for Oceania or the first boss in FF so you don't get instakilled if you or someone else screws up). Your build looks fine ATM though, my guess is 25-35 base vit w/min str for 70s / 75+ legendary gear. I wouldn't recommend putting any more into vit unless you find yourself dying a lot.
  • MystiMonk - Sanctuary
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary Posts: 4,286 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Thanks for the thought on the helmet.I already got my 80 gear minus sleeves and it is NPC gear not TT80.I am sure going for TT90 though and should I keep the sleeves?I only got 12 mirages will need more.My tailor skill is at 4 need 6 although I know a few who have it higher.

    The 80s gear I do have isn't the greatest except for the boots and I do have a helmet.I will keep adding mag and str when needed.I know my heals will get better with more in mag. anyway.
    Looking for a decent casual understanding Faction.
  • Ahira - Lost City
    Ahira - Lost City Posts: 791 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    miyago wrote: »
    How much vit you have depends on your gear refinement. Your end result should be a decent amount of HP (6k+) and decent amount of Pdef (8k+). I'm not sure why you singled out BM in your duels, because I'm hoping you're not changing your build solely for beating BMs. Your magic attack can be upped with your weapon. Clerics are not meant to be damage dealers. If you really want to focus outputting the most damage on PvP, sure go pure. But realize that a cleric's primary focus is support and survival.

    6k+ HP and 8k+ pdef on self buff? =0
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  • Paramedic - Dreamweaver
    Paramedic - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,801 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    dont bother. usualy peepz like to throw numbers outa butts
    BUILD EFFICIENCY CALCULATOR: pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1129681

    AGGRO MECHANICS: pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=481682

    GAME IS DEAD wiki-article: pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=938282
  • ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver
    ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,457 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Paramedic - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    dont bother. usualy peepz like to throw numbers outa butts

    b:chuckleb:chuckle

    9242 hp or you are a fail!
  • MystiMonk - Sanctuary
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary Posts: 4,286 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    These are my stats with my gear off unbuffed do I need more vit or stay the coarse.

    http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/4564/20101013105715.jpg
    Looking for a decent casual understanding Faction.
  • Mysticlifex - Heavens Tear
    Mysticlifex - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,175 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Mysti, go level yourself
    We're MysticAve my name is not Dave
    (Poem in the making - Shall be epic)
  • MystiMonk - Sanctuary
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary Posts: 4,286 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    What do you mean that is what I am doing maybe slowly but surely?
    Looking for a decent casual understanding Faction.
  • Mysticlifex - Heavens Tear
    Mysticlifex - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,175 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    no go level yourself (:
    We're MysticAve my name is not Dave
    (Poem in the making - Shall be epic)
  • MystiMonk - Sanctuary
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary Posts: 4,286 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    You can go level yourself to.
    Looking for a decent casual understanding Faction.
  • Fenora - Sanctuary
    Fenora - Sanctuary Posts: 128 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    it would be best to go pure imo, my main focus is staying alive and being able to heal really well, as u might notice your heals are based on your magic attack so the higher ur magic the better your heals. In pvp pure mag is a harder hitter as well but that shouldnt be your main focus as a cleric its a bonus i guess. self buffed i have 6415 pdef and 5379hp my magic is 507. i am still working on my characters gear and ornaments to increase pdef and refines for more hp. i personally think pure magic has more benefits than vit. with the right shards and refines.
  • MystiMonk - Sanctuary
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary Posts: 4,286 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Fenora - Sanctuary wrote: »
    it would be best to go pure imo, my main focus is staying alive and being able to heal really well, as u might notice your heals are based on your magic attack so the higher ur magic the better your heals. In pvp pure mag is a harder hitter as well but that shouldnt be your main focus as a cleric its a bonus i guess. self buffed i have 6415 pdef and 5379hp my magic is 507. i am still working on my characters gear and ornaments to increase pdef and refines for more hp. i personally think pure magic has more benefits than vit. with the right shards and refines.
    Never mind I thought it was mp.
    Looking for a decent casual understanding Faction.
  • MysticAngell - Heavens Tear
    MysticAngell - Heavens Tear Posts: 22 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    sorry sorry late reply but i have 4312 hp unbuffed 8228 mp
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