TT weapons or weapon tokens for psychics
Merenth - Archosaur
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I just made my tt 60 soulsphere but I also have quests for weapon token 4 and 5 to complete. Should I stick to the tt series of spheres or are the ones made fron the molds given in the weapon token quests better?
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For me PERSONALLY, I've just gone with TT weapons.
Eventually, molds aren't going to cut it, and you'll need the weapons to decompose for the ones you're going to use in endgame ANYWAY, so I just go with the flow.
Besides that, you need experience in HH, regardless of whether you use the weapons there or the armors. That's a main source of money in endgame levels; farming HH for newbies who are too lazy to find squads themselves.
It's useful to learn how your Psychic is used in situations like that so you don't end up falling on your face later on...ijs.
You may want to consult Hypnos on this matter though.0 -
just buy areally high refined mold wep for pennies then go to frost soulsphere at lv 85 (which apperently is worth nothing bc i cant even sell my +5 2 socket one perfect sharded for a god dam 20mil wtf???) and then go to lunar when u can afford it, and refined that to like +10 saince ur gonna be using it for a looooooooooooooong time (unless ur a cashshopper, then just dbl nirvana it.)full 3r9 +11/12 (still using immac shards though) w/o CSing, leveled to 105 spaming pv, yes i have no life =D0
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yep.... "just" do all that.
cos everyone has millions to spend on those kinda things.
also I'll buy your frost sphere for 2 mill b:chuckle[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
KittyTaco - Lost City wrote: »yep.... "just" do all that.
cos everyone has millions to spend on those kinda things.
also I'll buy your frost sphere for 2 mill b:chuckle
sadly the lowest before that offer was 3 mil -_-, and not hard to make millions, there this this thing callled merchin, where if u put somethin in a shop and it sells, u make coin 0.0, and if u try to buy the item u just sold for less, and r succesful, u make something clalled profit 0.0, and if u do this enough times, u get a lot of money 0.0, which u can use to buy items (and yes i was able to get the coin for a FC wep and lunar wep, the first time around when my highest chacter was 8x....)full 3r9 +11/12 (still using immac shards though) w/o CSing, leveled to 105 spaming pv, yes i have no life =D0 -
Born_Free - Harshlands wrote: »That's a main source of money in endgame levels; farming HH for newbies who are too lazy to find squads themselves.
good luck with that.DemansPsy - Lost City wrote: »just buy areally high refined mold wep for pennies then go to frost soulsphere at lv 85 (which apperently is worth nothing bc i cant even sell my +5 2 socket one perfect sharded for a god dam 20mil wtf???) and then go to lunar when u can afford it, and refined that to like +10 saince ur gonna be using it for a looooooooooooooong time (unless ur a cashshopper, then just dbl nirvana it.)
frost soulsphere as well as the lunar one are not really good.
-chan? lol. mana? even worse. i dislike vit on weapons but i guess that you like thatb:avoid
best end-game weapon imho is the tt99 gold, but i dont like the looks.
anyway, usually the weapon tokens are clearly better than the equivalent tt.
if you decompose your previous weapon you loose the money you spent in refines/shards0 -
I've just gone with Weapon Token spheres, and that's gotten me through 85 levels, so it can't be ALL bad. I am aware though, that if I don't end up getting my 97 mold, I'm going to be VERY busy in TT since I only made the 60 sphere. b:surrender[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
I main a 97 Psy named /\bra. The forums don't like his name.
So I post on my Barb.
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ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver wrote: »good luck with that.
frost soulsphere as well as the lunar one are not really good.
-chan? lol. mana? even worse. i dislike vit on weapons but i guess that you like thatb:avoid
best end-game weapon imho is the tt99 gold, but i dont like the looks.
anyway, usually the weapon tokens are clearly better than the equivalent tt.
if you decompose your previous weapon you loose the money you spent in refines/shards
....u do relize they are higher grade tohugh right, a frost wep reifnes the same as a HH 99 wep, and a lunar wep refines as well as a HH 100 wep, even if the mods arent as good, the att power is far greater lol...full 3r9 +11/12 (still using immac shards though) w/o CSing, leveled to 105 spaming pv, yes i have no life =D0 -
ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver wrote: »good luck with that.
Oh sorry Thanos, I forgot that some of us don't know what farming is...it must be nice. b:sad
Back on Topic:
It's true that weapon tokens are better off as far as long term goes. Personally, again, I would stick with HH. I'm planning to Nirvana in the long run....
I was never a fan of molds, even as a cleric...and again, if you're looking to be a decent contributor to either a faction or your own pocketbook, you're going to need to figure out what roll you play in instances like that.
It just honestly depends on which weapon you want at endgame, and what you plan on doing when you get there.0 -
DemansPsy - Lost City wrote: »....u do relize they are higher grade tohugh right, a frost wep reifnes the same as a HH 99 wep, and a lunar wep refines as well as a HH 100 wep, even if the mods arent as good, the att power is far greater lol...
well, even at +12 the tt99 gold has +25 mattack and -6chan vs the +2%crit of lunar.
i dont really think that this deserves ~50mil more...Born_Free - Harshlands wrote: »Oh sorry Thanos, I forgot that some of us don't know what farming is...it must be nice. b:sad
if you're looking to be a decent contributor to either a faction or your own pocketbook, you're going to need to figure out what roll you play in instances like that.
oh sorry to bring you the news Born_Free but psychics as any other magic "DD" are useless in farming. it must be nice to live in a world that psys are still DDsb:cute
anyway, how hard is to figure out the role, lol, it's the same as in every instance. you make tt sound like something horrifying XD0 -
You need your TT weap at later level so I think there is no reason why you shouldn't work on it. The mold weap from Token quests are nice nevertheless (free items are cool), just don't spend the money to buy the mold if you don't get it. If you get the mold, compare your TT weaps and your mold weaps and choose which mod/bonus you prefer. If you like the TT, throw the mold into AH; if you like the mold, take your time farm the TT weap for lvl90+ weaps.
As for money making, TT 2-x are always a nice to farm and that what I did primarily to fund my need other than merchanting and farm subs (urg...), try find a barb/veno at its 7x and you got yourself a TT farmer squad. TT 3-2/-3 used to be farm-able but I guess not anymore.
Frost isn't worth to spend on, imho. Its bonus sucks, the only redeemable trait is its looks. Don't pay attention on the "grade" and "refine per level" thingy unless you planned on refine your "not endgame" weapon to 7+.
TT99 as I stated in my guide, is a good endgame weapon for its price, you don't need to go out flashy with Frost/Lunar/TT100/Nirv if you can't afford time and money.
@Derresh: yes, you need to work on your TT because mold 97 isn't from token quest, it's from the damned Harpy Wraith drop.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
DemansPsy - Lost City wrote: »....u do relize they are higher grade tohugh right, a frost wep reifnes the same as a HH 99 wep, and a lunar wep refines as well as a HH 100 wep, even if the mods arent as good, the att power is far greater lol...
To be honest frost weapon suck.. mana and chanaling
.And yes lunar is g13 but i prefer TT 99 more powah b:dirty 0 -
stefanjama wrote: »but i prefer TT 99 more powah b:dirty
...ok what in the bloody hell r u tlakin about? am i missing somethin? lunar is the wep w/ more powah b:angry, its a higher grade, meansing it refines better, meansing u get more magic att per refine, meaning more att. is there somethin im completly missing or r u guys delousional? I swear i think u guys r just trolling me now... also 2% crit > -6% chanling for our class....full 3r9 +11/12 (still using immac shards though) w/o CSing, leveled to 105 spaming pv, yes i have no life =D0 -
I can prove you wrong....
Lunar +12: 9264-10702
TT99 +12: 9394-10832
Also if you notice, the base Magic Attack for both weap is the same.
The difference in refine a grade 12 and grade 13 is 75 at +12
Unless it is 2~3 grade difference, the difference in refine per level is not noticeable for weapons because there is a min and max damage for them, unlike armors.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver wrote: »
oh sorry to bring you the news Born_Free but psychics as any other magic "DD" are useless in farming. it must be nice to live in a world that psys are still DDsb:cute
anyway, how hard is to figure out the role, lol, it's the same as in every instance. you make tt sound like something horrifying XD
Or mayhap you should learn to farm? Pair me off with another Psychic, we can easily do nightscream for an hour and 30 minutes and rake off about 500k each, depending on if we're charmed or not.
OBJECTION!
It depends on the squad you have.
Say you roll a 2-2 squad with a Veno, one cleric, two BM's, a sin, and yourself. Everybody else in squad is 7-8x. It might just be me and my paranoia for letting lower levels tank, but if the Veno isn't herc'd-- I won't let them tank. I get antsy even letting the 8x BM tank. I get VERY jittery when the Sin volunteers to tank. Despite the protests, I would tank, and I will usually get things done with a minor nick on my charm or a few pots missing.
And no, it's NOT the same in each instance. Same concept, yes: Kill the mobs in your path, buff, beat up boss.
Same role, no. It varies slightly depending on the squad at hand and the instance you're in. Anybody who is drawing the conclusion that all instances are the same obviously hasn't done one in a while.
HH is important whether you use the weapons or not. I know countless idiots who can't even tell you how or what HH is because they are completely ignorant of the subject/cash shopped to 6/7/8/9x.You need your TT weap at later level so I think there is no reason why you shouldn't work on it. The mold weap from Token quests are nice nevertheless (free items are cool), just don't spend the money to buy the mold if you don't get it. If you get the mold, compare your TT weaps and your mold weaps and choose which mod/bonus you prefer. If you like the TT, throw the mold into AH; if you like the mold, take your time farm the TT weap for lvl90+ weaps.
I agree entirely.0 -
> > Well, I guess I can stop saving for that FF sphere now, since Hypnos said it's useless.
*sticks with Deathchanter Orb*
And just on a totally random note...
Hypnos, the best endgame soulsphere that isn't rank 8 or 9 is the Roaring Flame, right? Or is it the Banished Curse?┐('～`；)┌0 -
Hypnos - Raging Tide wrote: »I can prove you wrong....
Also if you notice, the base Magic Attack for both weap is the same.
The difference in refine a grade 12 and grade 13 is 75 at +12
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*fact checks w/ pwdatabase* f******kb:sad well at least i like the seals on the lunar wep more, <---hp **** (6556hp atm bc i ....restarted AA to try it >.<)full 3r9 +11/12 (still using immac shards though) w/o CSing, leveled to 105 spaming pv, yes i have no life =D0 -
DemansPsy - Lost City wrote: »...ok what in the bloody hell r u tlakin about? am i missing somethin? lunar is the wep w/ more powah b:angry, its a higher grade, meansing it refines better, meansing u get more magic att per refine, meaning more att. is there somethin im completly missing or r u guys delousional? I swear i think u guys r just trolling me now... also 2% crit > -6% chanling for our class....
HH99 sphere also gets the extra 100 mag attack, and the 18-19 magic
while Lunar only gets the 18-19 magic
but I do like the vit and crit on Lunar b:dirty[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Ellantria - Heavens Tear wrote: »> > Well, I guess I can stop saving for that FF sphere now, since Hypnos said it's useless.
*sticks with Deathchanter Orb*
And just on a totally random note...
Hypnos, the best endgame soulsphere that isn't rank 8 or 9 is the Roaring Flame, right? Or is it the Banished Curse?
Roaring Flame, HH100 Soulsphere...oh so sexy...[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Best endgame weap if not Rank and Nirv (with crazy luck for good stats too) is most likely TT100 (Roaring flame) but the cost is just grossly overpriced for its worth. I would say just stick with TT99 with decent refine and good shard.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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Born_Free - Harshlands wrote: »Or mayhap you should learn to farm? Pair me off with another Psychic, we can easily do nightscream for an hour and 30 minutes and rake off about 500k each, depending on if we're charmed or not.
wait, that's not TT :b
OBJECTION!
It depends on the squad you have.
Say you roll a 2-2 squad with a Veno, one cleric, two BM's, a sin, and yourself. Everybody else in squad is 7-8x. It might just be me and my paranoia for letting lower levels tank, but if the Veno isn't herc'd-- I won't let them tank. I get antsy even letting the 8x BM tank. I get VERY jittery when the Sin volunteers to tank. Despite the protests, I would tank, and I will usually get things done with a minor nick on my charm or a few pots missing.
And no, it's NOT the same in each instance. Same concept, yes: Kill the mobs in your path, buff, beat up boss.
Same role, no. It varies slightly depending on the squad at hand and the instance you're in. Anybody who is drawing the conclusion that all instances are the same obviously hasn't done one in a while.
HH is important whether you use the weapons or not. I know countless idiots who can't even tell you how or what HH is because they are completely ignorant of the subject/cash shopped to 6/7/8/9x. or because it's called Twilight Temple and not Hwilight Hemple?b:chuckle
well, i think we have a different definition of the word role.
Personally i have 3 roles in my mind: tank, healer, DD.
A psy cannot obviously be a healer (if he can he can obviously be replaced with a pot..)
About the psy tank... A psy in white voodoo is not the most effective tank and while it can save things (finishing soulbanisher) i wouldnt think that a psy would do a better job than a bm. Well, at least at physical bosses.
But anyway, as a psy you would tank/DD in every instance not just TT.
Sure, the bosses have some tricks but it's nothing that you cannot learn in 5sec by googling it or asking someone.
I hope that you can make profit in TT, dunno, maybe I'm a bit too bitter since every time I tried TT I didnt make enough... to the point that soloing TT2-x solo mode was more profitable. Generally i'm quite disappointed from the whole -int thing and since I have a nice steady profit from my catshop I guess I gave up.0 -
Hey, HH is a habit Thanos....once upon a time I was a cleric. xD It was called "Holy Hall" when I was a noob. (Max_HP, Former Equinox member, blah blah blah.)
I play cleric in minor instances when I'm helping out. (*COUGH* At2~5kapop *COUGH*) I can pretty much do anything up to BH 59 (duh) without a cleric. (Pots on the other hand...)
b:victory I'm rather proud of myself, since yesterday I did a 59 with just a cleric and a BM, both 7x. It was a good moment. Hybrid VIT build scores again!
Of course Psychics will only be used for group healing once in a while. I do it every so often just in case a party gets ganked by more than one mob, etc. I do it when a cleric is too busy getting some squishy in the party and is too occupied to heal the tank. I do it when I feel the party is in need of healing. I SPAMMED the living hell out of it during TW in Equinox HL. (That was an interesting almost-three-hour-war.)
I personally prefer being the tank. Maybe it's the delusional image that I'm a magical barb, but hey, it suits my playing style, people don't die, I don't have to pay so much for repairs for some reason, and everybody gets things done. Maybe it's because I hate being labeled as "just another Wizard." Despite the protesting that "Psychics are a DD class", I don't accept my toon as that. Sorry. Just don't. Ignorance is a state of bliss I guess.
:S You should consider doing more 2-X. Maybe it's just in HL, but there's a lot of up-and-coming 8x's sprouting about. You're in one of the most bustling and populous servers on the game-- figure something out. ;3
.-. Or maybe you're just buying out too many pots/too expensive charms off market? Idk. I haven't logged DW in almost a year now. (Calamity issues. -_- I shall forever hate those ugly red communist b@stards.) I have no idea what the market is like now.0 -
hehe, bh59 is fun... i loved tanking it
nah, it's not really the pot costs, mana is soo cheap.. I guess I'll give it another try xD
btw... the whole map is red nowb:cute cala won it!b:victory
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I tanked Gaunob in bh69, Phlebob in Eden and hold my ground in SoT ('was tormentin) for like 5min while the squad get wiped/Cleric rez others, can I have a grats? D=
side note: ...I blame Lightwish for EQ failure
<= Former EQ DW b:avoid[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Hypnos - Raging Tide wrote: »I tanked Gaunob in bh69, Phlebob in Eden and hold my ground in SoT ('was tormentin) for like 5min while the squad get wiped/Cleric rez others, can I have a grats? D=
side note: ...I blame Lightwish for EQ failure
<= Former EQ DW b:avoid
wrong forum to be showboatin, we all know that psy r rediculously OP XD b:pleased grtaz thoguhfull 3r9 +11/12 (still using immac shards though) w/o CSing, leveled to 105 spaming pv, yes i have no life =D0 -
<.< Stupid Calamity.
<--Also Former EQ cleric...and former TW assistant planner for EQ Harshlands
Edit: I think I'm going to roll a Sin on DW JUST to get revenge.... >:30 -
JUST USE A WEAPON AND SHUT UP!!!!!! YOU ARE FREAK.ING STUPID BY TAKING CARE OF 100 MAGIC ATK PLZ? RLY? STOP ASKING BUY A WEAPON AND SHUT UP (DONT BUY BLACKSMITHS THOUGHb:victory)0
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