Evasion or Physical attacks Capes and Ornaments
MystiMonk - Sanctuary
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Evasion or Physical attacks Capes or ornaments.what do you think is best mostly at the higher levels.I know for PvP the physical is the best as you face more p. attacks than say ranged or m attacks.What would you say is best for pve since most mobs are magic evasion or physical?
I would think more evasion would be best to avoid being hit.I was thinking of this when someone was selling a cape on WC today.
I would think more evasion would be best to avoid being hit.I was thinking of this when someone was selling a cape on WC today.
Looking for a decent casual understanding Faction.
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magic evasion
just stick with whatever which are not evasion b:avoid
for cape, looks for one with good hp and pdef bonus[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
evasion will do you no good.. think about all the sins and archers that get pwtpwned by barbs.
what you need to look on, on a cape is pdef /vit/hp or +mag modifiers.
look in AH there should be alot of great capes selling for below 100k0 -
Hypnos - Raging Tide wrote: »what this? o.Oa magic doesn't missMystiMonk - Sanctuary wrote: »What would you say is best for pve since most mobs are magic, evasion or physical?
I would think more evasion would be best to avoid being hit.I was thinking of this when someone was selling a cape on WC today.
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OP: what they said xD0 -
For normal grinding magic deff ornaments, HP cloaks.
For TT's and such p.def ornaments, more HP on cloaks or cloak with HP + p.def shards.b:dirty0 -
MystiMonk - Sanctuary wrote: »Evasion or Physical attacks Capes or ornaments.
i don't know if you're trolling or being serious.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Originally posted by LShattered - HeavensTear
Ohhh...I am dumb b:shutup0 -
Since i know Mysti for a long time on this forum....she just make writing mistakes often.b:dirty0
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Ok so the phys attk/def was probably a typo... but evasion? You can't confuse 'evasion' with anything else.... evasion on a cleric? really?[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Originally posted by LShattered - HeavensTear
Ohhh...I am dumb b:shutup0 -
I am not trolling and no his is not typo as most capes I see in the AH are evasion but there is some p def on them or hp bonus.I am using an evasion belt that I got from quest reward that has hp bonus lvl 65 to 69 from doing the wraith gate maybe 20x3.
@Nelae no this is not a mistake and I don't do them often and never if so then other are wrong.Where do you think I got my answers from those who posted in this forum about Clerics or you can( blame Forb).Looking for a decent casual understanding Faction.0 -
PvE: Magic Defense Ornaments w/ + mag, -chan, etc. Robe = HP/Mag
PvP/TW: Phys Defense Ornaments w/HP/Vit. Robe = HP/Vit -UNLESS- you have a full set of + defense level shards in your armor. In that case, do whatever you want.0 -
So you're a lvl 7X cleric who doesn't know that-
1. you can't evade magic attacks
2. evasion is completely useless on a cleric?[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Originally posted by LShattered - HeavensTear
Ohhh...I am dumb b:shutup0 -
MsEvilness - Heavens Tear wrote: »So you're a lvl 7X cleric who doesn't know that-
1. you can't evade magic attacks
2. evasion is completely useless on a cleric?
It's Mysti. You get used to her doing and saying things that are stupid in general.
On a more on-topic note, Arcane ornaments with -chan/+mag/+vit/pdef/hp for PvE (whichever you can get access to, all are useful bonuses), phys ornaments with hp/vit/extra defense for PvP.
Look for capes that either add vit, HP, or phys defense. Unless you're rich enough to get the -chan cape and even then you may find one of the p.def ones more useful depending on the rest of your gear.
However, never EVER touch evasion unless you have no other choice. It's useless and everyone who knows how to play this game and has made it past level 77 can tell you that.0 -
^Stay out of my threads please I reported you once don't make me do it again.Looking for a decent casual understanding Faction.0
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MsEvilness - Heavens Tear wrote: »Ok so the phys attk/def was probably a typo... but evasion? You can't confuse 'evasion' with anything else.... evasion on a cleric? really?
i have full Evasion Gems in my Nirvana O.OExegesis-103-Psychic--blackballs, blueballs, pinkballs, hairless balls. You got a lotta balls to be applying to Enrage...AND ask for a private denial reason? gg man. gg.0 -
This is sort of like the cape I just bought with +5 hp regen
http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/5284
This is belt I have
http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/12612
I am going with what is says dodge stat as I usually go with pdef belt not evasion/dodge.Looking for a decent casual understanding Faction.0 -
MystiMonk - Sanctuary wrote: »^Stay out of my threads please I reported you once don't make me do it again.
You reported me.... for answering the question posed in this thread.
Do you have any sense whatsoever? b:laugh0 -
Every cape has evasion as base stat I think?0
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The OP makes me want to cry..... Especially considering she been playing a long time...
Eva on a cleric.... seriously...[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
VlLKASS - Sanctuary wrote: »The OP makes me want to cry..... Especially considering she been playing a long time...
Eva on a cleric.... seriously...Torsay - Sanctuary wrote: »Every cape has evasion as base stat I think?0 -
Yeah. The only use capes have are their grade since, thankfully, they refine for HP and the bonuses on them. I'd take a 4X cape with decent adds over a 7X cape with crappy adds if I wasn't planning to do much, if any, refining/sharding on it.
This, pretty much. I was using a level 37 cape with +4 vit, +30 HP, and +70 MP until I hit 96 finally and started using my OHT cloak with +6 vit and +105 HP.
But yeah...evasion sucks. Never ever use evasion neck/belt/stones as a magic class.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
"subtraction has the butt of an angel" - Paulrogers
I Subtraction.
/blatant sig copy is blatant
105/105/105 obtained! b:cute0 -
Eoria - Harshlands wrote: »This, pretty much. I was using a level 37 cape with +4 vit, +30 HP, and +70 MP until I hit 96 finally and started using my OHT cloak with +6 vit and +105 HP.
But yeah...evasion sucks. Never ever use evasion neck/belt/stones as a magic class.
Only eva gear that''s wearable (is there such a word?) are the 99 LA ornaments for -int bonus for bms/barbs[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
VlLKASS - Sanctuary wrote: »Only eva gear that''s wearable (is there such a word?) are the 99 LA ornaments for -int bonus for bms/barbs
Yeah. Those are what I was referring to. But honestly, I really wouldn't use those 99 LA orns as a BM/barb either. I'd rather have more defense and better add-ons. :X[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
"subtraction has the butt of an angel" - Paulrogers
I Subtraction.
/blatant sig copy is blatant
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Eoria - Harshlands wrote: »Yeah. Those are what I was referring to. But honestly, I really wouldn't use those 99 LA orns as a BM/barb either. I'd rather have more defense and better add-ons. :X
Gotta admit I agree with ya there. I'd rather carry around a set of 99 LA/HA boots and wrists for the interval than sacrifice my defenses for some lulzevasion.
Problem with that, though, is that it costs more than just flat out going for the evasion orns.
Still, I'm just glad they made capes refine for HP instead of evasion. Can you imagine how funny it'd be to see someone running around in a set of +12 gears and def level stones... except a completely unrefined cape because refining it was a total and utter waste? b:chuckle0 -
She's always been this way too. Was more acceptable when she was still a newbie, but with how long she's been around and the way she acts to being proven wrong... Oh well, you just get used to it.
Yeah. The only use capes have are their grade since, thankfully, they refine for HP and the bonuses on them. I'd take a 4X cape with decent adds over a 7X cape with crappy adds if I wasn't planning to do much, if any, refining/sharding on it.
No you are just great at starting flame wars or rubbing and baiting me like you are doing to me right now and you always stalk me on these boards.I don't believe word you say as you won't prove who you are take a hike!!!
I Know exactly what I am talking about besides what you say so go fly a kite ....... ..Looking for a decent casual understanding Faction.0 -
Um... is she pretending...?
He doesn't need to bait you... You show your "fine" knowledge on the original post...
MehI don't believe word you say as you won't prove who you are take a hike!!![SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
MystiMonk - Sanctuary wrote: »No you are just great at starting flame wars or rubbing and baiting me like you are doing to me right now and you always stalk me on these boards.I don't believe word you say as you won't prove who you are take a hike!!!
I Know exactly what I am talking about besides what you say so go fly a kite ....... ..
1: Nobody needs to bait you. You react like a 5-year old easily enough on your own.
2: I honestly don't give a damn about you enough to even try to stalk you. I saw a thread title with an obvious solution that I thought was made by a newbie considering the question, and simply posted answering the question so future clerics wouldn't make the mistake of thinking evasion had any use. The fact that you made it and continue acting like an utter and complete fool is simply a bonus for me as it provides entertainment.
3: Go ahead and don't believe me. It' probably part of why you suck so much at the game. What am I supposed to prove? That capes refine for HP? That evasion is useless? That being able to put higher level gems in a higher grade cape and refining it for more HP is the only thing that makes high-grade capes with bad bonuses more useful than low-grade ones with good bonuses? I'm sorry you're too incompetent when it comes to this simple game to realize and understand when basic facts are staring you in the face. Plus, if you don't believe me, you're also going to have to not believe all the people who agree with me. That happens to be... say.... everyone in this thread EXCEPT you. b:chuckle
4: If you knew exactly what you were talking about, you wouldn't have made a thread asking a question one might expect from some lowbie who's never played the game before. Granted your characters are still lowbies, but you've also been around for well over a year now and if you simply spent as much time actually playing the game as you do trolling/being stupid on the forums, you'd probably seem a lot more capable in the eyes of many others.
I don't know why I try to help you but honestly, you need to take a look at yourself and your posts, Mysti. Almost every time you say something, the community either ignores you due to how flat-out wrong you are, or you get comments likeMsEvilness - Heavens Tear wrote: »i don't know if you're trolling or being serious.Nelae - Heavens Tear wrote: »Since i know Mysti for a long time on this forum....she just make writing mistakes often.VlLKASS - Sanctuary wrote: »The OP makes me want to cry..... Especially considering she been playing a long time...
Eva on a cleric.... seriously...
However I'm quite certain that this post will fall upon deaf ears since dealing with you can be like trying to talk sense into Yulk most of the time (who, similarly to you, also only had low level characters, yet tried to act as though he knew far more than he did), and bothering to respond to your reactions is getting off-topic anyways.
That said, and to make sure this post isn't completely off-topic,MystiMonk - Sanctuary wrote: »Evasion or Physical attacks Capes or ornaments.what do you think is best mostly at the higher levels What would you say is best for pve since most mobs are magic evasion or physical?
I would think more evasion would be best to avoid being hit.I was thinking of this when someone was selling a cape on WC today.
Now as for the mob thing, the time you'll fight the greatest amount of ranged and magic mobs will be in your 6X and 7X stages. At higher levels, though, most mobs are either physical, or have both a ranged and melee attack. This is part of why the phys defense is so useful, because if a mob manages to get close to you for whatever reason, it's going to hit you with a physical attack, even if you shard and refine for evasion it's most likely going to hit you (ask all the archers and assassins how often they rely on their evasion), and it's going to hurt like hell in arcane armor. If you aim for phys defense ornaments and defense/HP bonuses in your cape, however, then while you'll still be hit, it will be something you can survive with far more ease. I've had a 73 cleric alt run the pre-warlord hall in 2-3 to res the squad after a wipe before and was able to manage it because I had phys ornaments/shards and bonuses on my cape. If it weren't for that, I'd have been a 1-shot once plume shell/dew wore off and would have achieved... absolutely nothing.
Edit: If you don't like or disagree with the post, ignore it and don't respond. My main reason for even bothering is so that future clerics don't go off and make mistakes based on reading false information.0 -
1: Nobody needs to bait you. You react like a 5-year old easily enough on your own.
Then what do you think you are doing know and I am old enough to be your parent.You could of avoided this thread altogether but didn't did you as you like to rub me the wrong way.Don't go quoting others defend you own posts as you say I react like 5 year old well I see a lot of that here honestly.You are the troll here like you troll every other forum with no avatar shown proves you have no credibility what so ever in anything you say.It also raises quest as to whether you play this game or are just here for the kicks.
@VlLKASS I peg your pardon but I do not show that any where.
If you think evasion doesn't work then prove it not that I am saying does it just happens to be on my equipment as a stat.I was raising the question and issue is it usefull or not?Looking for a decent casual understanding Faction.0 -
MystiMonk - Sanctuary wrote: »Then what do you think you are doing know and I am old enough to be your parent.You could of avoided this thread altogether but didn't did you as you like to rub me the wrong way.Don't go quoting others defend you own posts as you say I react like 5 year old well I see a lot of that here honestly.You are the troll here like you troll every other forum with no avatar shown proves you have no credibility what so ever in anything you say.It also raises quest as to whether you play this game or are just here for the kicks.
@VlLKASS I peg your pardon but I do not show that any where.
If you think evasion doesn't work then prove it not that I am saying does it just happens to be on my equipment as a stat.I was raising the question and issue is it usefull or not?
.... /headdesk .... Seriously...? After all the posts above explaining how it's useless...? You have GOT to be trolling..
I got about 4.5 eva or over. Other players rarely miss me; For mobs it's only noticeable if I got an entire wave on me in rb. Otherwise evading in a dungeon rarely saves me & it's not smth I count on. You want to beat that number as a cleric?[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Well, for one thing, all of the classes to which accuracy actually matters (non-magical classes) gain more accuracy per dexterity than evasion (other than blademaster).
Another thing, considering the wide usage of +30/50% accuracy accessories, there is nothing you can do with evasion to catch up, the most ive seen is +10% evasion on any adorn.
another thing is that even if someone has lower accuracy than your evasion, it is most likely not lower by much, and they will still be able to hit you with little difficulty (plus if you invest that much into evasion in the first place, you won't have enough slots/money/places to invest in the important stuff like hp and defense)
ANOTHER thing to consider is that clerics have **** evasion gain the first place, and it doesn't matter if you go 5 dex per level until 100, any melee class will still be able to hit you.
so basically, yes evasion is pretty useless.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Serinregis - Lost City wrote: »Well, for one thing, all of the classes to which accuracy actually matters (non-magical classes) gain more accuracy per dexterity than evasion (other than blademaster).
Another thing, considering the wide usage of +30/50% accuracy accessories, there is nothing you can do with evasion to catch up, the most ive seen is +10% evasion on any adorn.
another thing is that even if someone has lower accuracy than your evasion, it is most likely not lower by much, and they will still be able to hit you with little difficulty (plus if you invest that much into evasion in the first place, you won't have enough slots/money/places to invest in the important stuff like hp and defense)
ANOTHER thing to consider is that clerics have **** evasion gain the first place, and it doesn't matter if you go 5 dex per level until 100, any melee class will still be able to hit you.
so basically, yes evasion is pretty useless.
Case closed.
@VlLKASS Go troll else where please as you are always posting this forum and don't show that you play cleric.I never troll if you know what one is.Looking for a decent casual understanding Faction.0 -
MystiMonk - Sanctuary wrote: »Thank you and this coming from a non Archer class if you don't play one.You explained this very well.
Case closed.
@VlLKASS Go troll else where please as you are always posting this forum and don't show that you play cleric.I never troll if you know what one is.
Go uninstall if after playing way longer than me, you don't know eva in this game is fairly useless & is not smth you can count on.
I don't need to roll a cleric to figure out it sucks for this class.
Oh I see 3 pages on topic everyone explaining to you why evasion is useless, & now all of a sudden you get it. Wow...[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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