Mods/Frankie/PWE

zomghai
zomghai Posts: 27 Arc User
edited October 2010 in General Discussion
The fact that two of my threads have been moved without so much as a reason why does nothing but show that you're neglecting your community. I'm simply noting what I've seen and explaining why it shouldn't be that way. I'm not flaming or insulting or being rude, I'm just trying to let you know what I've seen from Grim. I haven't seen Shelly in action as of yet so I can't speak about her, however I still believe that you need to stop moving threads that actually express concern. I've seen multiple other threads that have used profanity and are nothing but pure spam yet they remain here.

Why are my threads being targetted for movement? Why not lock/move these others as well? You can't ignore your problems in real life or in the forums, so stop trying because in moving/locking my threads or even banning this account that's all you're really doing. Running from your problems.
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  • SashaGray - Heavens Tear
    SashaGray - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,765 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    she's been exuding awesomeness all over the HT forum
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  • Psychosiss - Heavens Tear
    Psychosiss - Heavens Tear Posts: 203 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    zomghai wrote: »
    The fact that two of my threads have been moved without so much as a reason why does nothing but show that you're neglecting your community. I'm simply noting what I've seen and explaining why it shouldn't be that way. I'm not flaming or insulting or being rude, I'm just trying to let you know what I've seen from Grim. I haven't seen Shelly in action as of yet so I can't speak about her, however I still believe that you need to stop moving threads that actually express concern. I've seen multiple other threads that have used profanity and are nothing but pure spam yet they remain here.

    Why are my threads being targetted for movement? Why not lock/move these others as well? You can't ignore your problems in real life or in the forums, so stop trying because in moving/locking my threads or even banning this account that's all you're really doing. Running from your problems.


    omfg s t f u and let it rests already. this QQ and whine about the mods/gms is getting annoying now. like 50% of the 1st page is about some QQ involving how the mods/gms handle things. even tho its been like this for the past year and a half and ppl are only now starting to QQ. get the fuc over it.
  • ragenight
    ragenight Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Yeah I heard it's pretty bad over there.
  • Krisnda - Lost City
    Krisnda - Lost City Posts: 1,465 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    omfg **** and let it rests already. this QQ and whine about the mods/gms is getting annoying now. like 50% of the 1st page is about some QQ involving how the mods/gms handle things. even tho its been like this for the past year and a half and ppl are only now starting to QQ. get the fuc over it.

    Actually, people have been complaining for the whole time period, its just now it's gotten a lot worse. Research before posting.
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  • zomghai
    zomghai Posts: 27 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    omfg s t f u and let it rests already. this QQ and whine about the mods/gms is getting annoying now. like 50% of the 1st page is about some QQ involving how the mods/gms handle things. even tho its been like this for the past year and a half and ppl are only now starting to QQ. get the fuc over it.

    I like how you dismiss what I have to say as mere QQ when nowhere in my paragraph do I go on some illogical rant about or exaggerate things. I'm just showing what I've seen in a calm and rational manner and asking why it's like that, nothing more. Now stop flaming, it's people like you that ruin good threads.

    Also.. what Krisnda said
  • BarbEQ - Dreamweaver
    BarbEQ - Dreamweaver Posts: 77 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    2 of your 8 posts? 2 of which have been bashing mods/gms lol

    did you expect anything else? if you have a problem with a mod, you need to raise a ticket or pm a gm (oooh it rhymes).
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  • zomghai
    zomghai Posts: 27 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    2 of your 8 posts? 2 of which have been bashing mods/gms lol

    did you expect anything else?

    So suddenly having a concern about how the Mods do their jobs is bashing? Bashing is when you insult someone and try to anger them, which is childish. I'm concerned with how the new Mods are doing their new jobs.
  • GreatStorm - Sanctuary
    GreatStorm - Sanctuary Posts: 228 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    2 of your 8 posts? 2 of which have been bashing mods/gms lol

    did you expect anything else? if you have a problem with a mod, you need to raise a ticket or pm a gm (oooh it rhymes).

    So who do we talk to when a GM(Kanto) and a mod(shelly) insult us?
  • BarbEQ - Dreamweaver
    BarbEQ - Dreamweaver Posts: 77 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    did my post that you quoted not answer that question?

    problem with a mod, go to a gm/cm or raise a ticket
    problem with gm/cm raise a ticket or write to head office (i guess)

    posting grievances here on the forum just leads to more flames which eventually lead to bans. If enough people raised concerns in the correct manner. who knows maybe the CM's/GM's boss would have something to say regarding customer feedback. I am not saying it would make any difference but posts on the forum stay on the forum. From working in a large company feedback on a forum seldomer reaches any further up the corporate ladder than the forum manager.
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  • GreatStorm - Sanctuary
    GreatStorm - Sanctuary Posts: 228 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    did my post that you quoted not answer that question?

    problem with a mod, go to a gm/cm or raise a ticket
    problem with gm/cm raise a ticket or write to head office (i guess)

    posting grievances here on the forum just leads to more flames which eventually lead to bans. If enough people raised concerns in the correct manner. who knows maybe the CM's/GM's boss would have something to say regarding customer feedback. I am not saying it would make any difference but posts on the forum stay on the forum. From working in a large company feedback on a forum seldomer reaches any further up the corporate ladder than the forum manager.

    You know I sent a ticket about a mod months ago want to know after 3 paragraphs. 3 SS

    Need More Info
  • frankieraye
    frankieraye Posts: 250 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    zomghai wrote: »
    The fact that two of my threads have been moved without so much as a reason why does nothing but show that you're neglecting your community. I'm simply noting what I've seen and explaining why it shouldn't be that way. I'm not flaming or insulting or being rude, I'm just trying to let you know what I've seen from Grim. I haven't seen Shelly in action as of yet so I can't speak about her, however I still believe that you need to stop moving threads that actually express concern. I've seen multiple other threads that have used profanity and are nothing but pure spam yet they remain here.

    Why are my threads being targetted for movement? Why not lock/move these others as well? You can't ignore your problems in real life or in the forums, so stop trying because in moving/locking my threads or even banning this account that's all you're really doing. Running from your problems.



    Erm, people who post on alts to circumvent their main's forum ban aren't really supposed to be making new threads.
  • ragenight
    ragenight Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Erm, people who post on alts to circumvent their main's forum ban aren't really supposed to be making new threads.

    That's not really a fair (or clearly stated) rule. Separate accounts are separate accounts and should be treated as such.

    Another example of GMs making up rules as they go.

    If my in-game account got banned and I made a new account to play the game (which has happened before) you wouldn't be complaining if I charged zen on it.

    Account bans are not IP or person bans.
  • GreenBeans - Dreamweaver
    GreenBeans - Dreamweaver Posts: 133 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Erm, people who post on alts to circumvent their main's forum ban aren't really supposed to be making new threads.

    b:beatup b:beatup
  • Lenore - Harshlands
    Lenore - Harshlands Posts: 1,201 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Erm, people who post on alts to circumvent their main's forum ban aren't really supposed to be making new threads.

    False. GMs have specifically told me that I can post normally from another account. They in fact have used this as an excuse not to unban my main account when I pointed out that I was banned on first offense with no warning. Instead of addressing that directly, they basically said "oh we don't you running rampant over the forums again just in case" after I specifically told them why that same scenario can never happen again (tho I can't say what scenario that is), adding that "we have to make it look like we punished people who broke forum rules", then slapping on at the end "plus you can post normally from your alt names."

    I still have those PMs saved.
  • ragenight
    ragenight Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    False. GMs have specifically told me that I can post normally from another account. They in fact have used this as an excuse not to unban my main account when I pointed out that I was banned on first offense with no warning. Instead of addressing that directly, they basically said "oh we don't you running rampant over the forums again just in case" after I specifically told them why that same scenario can never happen again (tho I can't say what scenario that is), adding that "we have to make it look like we punished people who broke forum rules", then slapping on at the end "plus you can post normally from your alt names."

    I still have those PMs saved.

    Lolfrankieisaliar.
  • GreatStorm - Sanctuary
    GreatStorm - Sanctuary Posts: 228 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    False. GMs have specifically told me that I can post normally from another account. They in fact have used this as an excuse not to unban my main account when I pointed out that I was banned on first offense with no warning. Instead of addressing that directly, they basically said "oh we don't you running rampant over the forums again just in case" after I specifically told them why that same scenario can never happen again (tho I can't say what scenario that is), adding that "we have to make it look like we punished people who broke forum rules", then slapping on at the end "plus you can post normally from your alt names."

    I still have those PMs saved.

    interesting.....
  • frankieraye
    frankieraye Posts: 250 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    False. GMs have specifically told me that I can post normally from another account. They in fact have used this as an excuse not to unban my main account when I pointed out that I was banned on first offense with no warning. Instead of addressing that directly, they basically said "oh we don't you running rampant over the forums again just in case" after I specifically told them why that same scenario can never happen again (tho I can't say what scenario that is), adding that "we have to make it look like we punished people who broke forum rules", then slapping on at the end "plus you can post normally from your alt names."

    I still have those PMs saved.


    Please forward me the pm's you're referring to. My rationale is: If people can post on alts after having their main banned, then what's the point of banning them in the first place? Game account bans I can understand, after all, playing PWI on an alt is not the same as playing on your main. On the forums, though, posting on an alt is no different from posting on your main.

    Forum bans are meant to remove posting privileges, thus forum ban circumvention is not allowed.
  • GreatStorm - Sanctuary
    GreatStorm - Sanctuary Posts: 228 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Please forward me the pm's you're referring to. My rationale is: If people can post on alts after having their main banned, then what's the point of banning them in the first place? Game account bans I can understand, after all, playing PWI on an alt is not the same as playing on your main. On the forums, though, posting on an alt is no different from posting on your main.

    Forum bans are meant to remove posting privileges, thus forum ban circumvention is not allowed.


    If he PMs u the Pms wouldnt that be breaking the rules since ur not suppose to talk about PMs to anyone from GMs?
  • ragenight
    ragenight Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Please forward me the pm's you're referring to. My rationale is: If people can post on alts after having their main banned, then what's the point of banning them in the first place? Game account bans I can understand, after all, playing PWI on an alt is not the same as playing on your main. On the forums, though, posting on an alt is no different from posting on your main.

    Forum bans are meant to remove posting privileges, thus forum ban circumvention is not allowed.

    Forum bans are pointless and serve no purpose. You have no way of permanently banning a person from posting on the forums, and other than having an avatar to stand by you, an individual profile is easily replaced.

    So your question of what's the point of forum banning someone? Nothing. Unless it translates into an in-game ban.

    Not allowed? Maybe. How are you going to disallow it?

    Stop making up rules on the fly.
  • Longknife - Harshlands
    Longknife - Harshlands Posts: 4,843 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Please forward me the pm's you're referring to. My rationale is: If people can post on alts after having their main banned, then what's the point of banning them in the first place? Game account bans I can understand, after all, playing PWI on an alt is not the same as playing on your main. On the forums, though, posting on an alt is no different from posting on your main.

    Forum bans are meant to remove posting privileges, thus forum ban circumvention is not allowed.

    How people can manage to complain about the logic in this post is beyond me.

    Frankie could say the god damn sky is blue and people would argue it's more of a cyan.
    I <3 AGOREY
  • ragenight
    ragenight Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    How people can manage to complain about the logic in this post is beyond me.

    Frankie could say the god damn sky is blue and people would argue it's more of a cyan.

    It's logical but not realistic.

    As for your example, people would probably point out that the sky has no color nor is it damned by God.
  • Longknife - Harshlands
    Longknife - Harshlands Posts: 4,843 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    ragenight wrote: »
    It's logical but not realistic.

    As for your example, people would probably point out that the sky has no color nor is it damned by God.

    How the hell is the policy not realistic?
    I <3 AGOREY
  • ragenight
    ragenight Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    How the hell is the policy not realistic?

    Because they can't keep people from making new accounts and continuing to post.

    P.S. Don't call it a policy. That would imply it's an actual rule that has been stated somewhere and not something frankie just made up on the fly to try to silence us.
  • Krisnda - Lost City
    Krisnda - Lost City Posts: 1,465 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Quick question, how do you pm people in the forums anymore? Cuz im not sure with all the Click=persons profile page, am i missing something?
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  • ragenight
    ragenight Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Quick question, how do you pm people in the forums anymore? Cuz im not sure with all the Click=persons profile page, am i missing something?

    On the top right click Private Messages.
  • GreatStorm - Sanctuary
    GreatStorm - Sanctuary Posts: 228 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Quick question, how do you pm people in the forums anymore? Cuz im not sure with all the Click=persons profile page, am i missing something?

    I copy the name I.e frankieraye from his posts and pm him
  • Longknife - Harshlands
    Longknife - Harshlands Posts: 4,843 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    ragenight wrote: »
    Because they can't keep people from making new accounts and continuing to post.

    P.S. Don't call it a policy. That would imply it's an actual rule that has been stated somewhere and not something frankie just made up on the fly to try to silence us.

    Well...yeah you can. :U

    Cause frankie just said he's been doing it to people as justification for some locked threads. New user with controversial post ----> throws flags up ----> check IP
    > see it's same user
    > ban alt.


    And jesus christ man, "just to silence us?" Stop watching so many Soap Operas...
    I <3 AGOREY
  • Lenore - Harshlands
    Lenore - Harshlands Posts: 1,201 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    GG Frankie, my PM was too long. Do I really have to retype all that stuff?

    Edit: 777th post.
  • ragenight
    ragenight Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Well...yeah you can. :U

    Cause frankie just said he's been doing it to people as justification for some locked threads. New user with controversial post ----> throws flags up ----> check IP
    > see it's same user
    > ban alt.

    He's been banning obvious alts regardless of how controversial their posts are based solely on their relation to another banned account.

    And he can ban alts all day long. E-mail addresses are free, and so are PWI accounts. That's my point. Not that I'd go out of my way to keep making tons of accounts, because the fun in this forum pretty much died, but we can always make new alts.
  • Lenore - Harshlands
    Lenore - Harshlands Posts: 1,201 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    If he PMs u the Pms wouldnt that be breaking the rules since ur not suppose to talk about PMs to anyone from GMs?

    Psh if I get banned for something I forwarded to Frankie at his own request, that would REALLY be bull.