Nirvana Armor Set Questions

masochisticbarb
masochisticbarb Posts: 4 Arc User
edited September 2010 in General Discussion
Hello everyone. I have a few questions about the nirvana sets. I tried the search tool, but ended up with a cesspool of topics concerning runs, QQs and a few that didn't quite answer my questions fully.

1. Can you mix and match pieces from the light and dark set and still receive the bonuses?

For example, can I still get a + 5 attack lvl if I had one light and one dark armor piece on?


2. Does the light set offer a better defense value than the dark set?

The light set gives a higher numerical value for defense, while the dark set offers it based on a few more additional % bonus stats. When I compared the light and dark pants piece using PW Calculator, the light piece had a 1% more defense than the dark piece. Even after I applied a few defense debuff skills, the defense value that was displayed was the same % when comparing both light and dark. In PVE, you rarely find a boss that does more than 2 different skills of defense decrease for the same type of defense (like either just phys. or magic only). In PVP, you're likely to be dead by the time 3 or more of the same defense debuff hits you. So would it be safe to say that the light set is more favorable (ignoring the aesthetics of the armor)?

Thank you.
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  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    masochisticbarb wrote: »
    Hello everyone. I have a few questions about the nirvana sets. I tried the search tool, but ended up with a cesspool of topics concerning runs, QQs and a few that didn't quite answer my questions fully.

    1. Can you mix and match pieces from the light and dark set and still receive the bonuses?

    For example, can I still get a + 5 attack lvl if I had one light and one dark armor piece on?

    No, the set bonus is for two, five or six pieces of armor. You can have two Lunar Nirvana and two TT Nirvana pieces to get the set bonus for each. But one piece of each does not give you any bonus.

    As for your second question, I'll let someone else answer that.
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  • Valirah - Sanctuary
    Valirah - Sanctuary Posts: 522 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    masochisticbarb wrote: »
    2. Does the light set offer a better defense value than the dark set?

    The light set gives a higher numerical value for defense, while the dark set offers it based on a few more additional % bonus stats. When I compared the light and dark pants piece using PW Calculator, the light piece had a 1% more defense than the dark piece. Even after I applied a few defense debuff skills, the defense value that was displayed was the same % when comparing both light and dark. In PVE, you rarely find a boss that does more than 2 different skills of defense decrease for the same type of defense (like either just phys. or magic only). In PVP, you're likely to be dead by the time 3 or more of the same defense debuff hits you. So would it be safe to say that the light set is more favorable (ignoring the aesthetics of the armor)?

    Thank you.

    Yes.

    I believe Asterelle worked it out in a similar thread. Unless you have highly refined ornaments (+9 or better?) you will get more defense out of the Lunar set.
  • masochisticbarb
    masochisticbarb Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Valirah - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Yes.

    I believe Asterelle worked it out in a similar thread. Unless you have highly refined ornaments (+9 or better?) you will get more defense out of the Lunar set.

    Thank you Val for the verification, I was afraid this might be true since I've made the TT99 pants a while ago. Now I really regret having made it. I forgot to ask you this the other week during our nirvana run - how often do you usurp aggro from a fist bm that have similar claw/fist refines due to your sage fire buff and HA build?
  • Valirah - Sanctuary
    Valirah - Sanctuary Posts: 522 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    masochisticbarb wrote: »
    Thank you Val for the verification, I was afraid this might be true since I've made the TT99 pants a while ago. Now I really regret having made it. I forgot to ask you this the other week during our nirvana run - how often do you usurp aggro from a fist bm that have similar claw/fist refines due to your sage fire buff and HA build?

    It's tough to gauge since I mostly do Nirvana these days and there's the constant aggro resetting and seals to mess things up. My usual crew has two BMs, both with superior weaponry and I'm very grateful that we have a good cleric to keep me healed while I'm holding on to aggro.

    I'd like to find out how well I compare to a BM with equivalent weapon, though I'd need a more controlled enviornment than Nirvana to make a valid test. My gut instinct is that it would be very close. I know that I out aggro BMs with lesser refined weapons.
  • KennyC - Lost City
    KennyC - Lost City Posts: 64 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Ummm...mya i have the link to the thread that Asterelle made about the lunar and tt sets of nirvana plz?
    +1 post
  • Kitamura - Lost City
    Kitamura - Lost City Posts: 253 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    CV-Nirvana is better
    CV-HH is used mainly by poor ppl
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  • Kupuntu - Sanctuary
    Kupuntu - Sanctuary Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Kitamura - Lost City wrote: »
    CV-Nirvana is better
    CV-HH is used mainly by poor ppl

    Does that mean that I still have a chance of getting TT99 set? b:chuckle

    If you have full TT99 set on Sanct with +5 refines or better you are a CSer. No matter what you say.
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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    If you were to mix and match sets use TT for wrists and boots. Those sacrifice the least amount of defense to have an extra +4% defense buff.
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