Remove or rename "Official Suggested rules" post

Posts: 61 Arc User
edited September 2010 in Suggestion Box
This is a suggestion and poll to remove the sticky for or rename the thread of this posting. http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=803312

BTW, I did not necro this post, I did a search and came up completely and utterly 100% empty on the subject. I cannot think that this ever has been suggested before so I feel pretty ok in posting this. I do not think that Pangu Chinese mythology would have any issue with the request either. I doubt the Dev's would have to do much work in the game to resolve this issue. I believe this has covered all of the bases, prior to me posting this? Please let me know immediately so that I may correct the actions if I have missed anything.

Here are the reasons that this should be removed or renamed to something other then "Official Suggested Rules"

1. There are already Official rules that supersede these rules, making them ineffective when trying to argue a point. These official rules are maintained by GM's, Moderators and others who work hard at what they do.

2. Users cite the "Official Suggested Rules" and other users cite the "Official Rules". Which rule set is the master ruleset? I have been told that the "Official Rules" trump the "Official Suggested Rules". Why have the "Official Suggested Rules" as a posting at all, since the "Official Rules" handle all situations already, see reason number 1.

3. It is confusing to new readers who may come into a forum via a search and arrive at a set of "Official Suggested Rules". They begin to take these rules to heart and use these. They then never bother to find out if the board has actual "rules" because they have already read the set that says "Official".

4. There is no GM sign off on the rules in the "Official Suggested Rules". While they may have originally signed off on a set of "Rules", these rules have grown and been added by a single user and maintained by a single user. This is putting GM's/Mod's/Admin's at the risk of having to warn or ban a user due to these "Official Suggested Rules" when they were not even approved.

5. It creates a situation where users believe they have Mod or GM rights over other posters. This is causing friction among the posters and it has been mentioned more then once in multiple posts that the posting was stickied and therefore these users have the "right" to smack posters around with these rules.

6. New users are under the impression that the OP of this posting is a GM/Mod/Admin of the board, again causing confusion on the part of the new posters. This is later causing friction as other posters try to impose the OP's rules on the new members.

There is no hatred, if you have read my posts throughout you will realize that. Any replies that are inflammatory or derogatory well, will simply be scoffed at b:laugh


b:thanks


Scar
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  • Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Like I said in another post, I think the suggesiton box rules thread needs to be reposted by an official GM, this needs to be locked and then another thread created, perhaps Grippie could put something together where members can post suggestions to be submited. These suggestions would then be passed onto official GMs to clear and add to the locked Official Rules sticky.
  • Posts: 2,457 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    who reads them anywayb:avoid
    i agree with you
  • Posts: 1,105 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    This is a suggestion and poll to remove the sticky for or rename the thread of this posting. http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=803312

    BTW, I did not necro this post, I did a search and came up completely and utterly 100% empty on the subject. I cannot think that this ever has been suggested before so I feel pretty ok in posting this. I do not think that Pangu Chinese mythology would have any issue with the request either. I doubt the Dev's would have to do much work in the game to resolve this issue. I believe this has covered all of the bases, prior to me posting this? Please let me know immediately so that I may correct the actions if I have missed anything.

    Here are the reasons that this should be removed or renamed to something other then "Official Suggested Rules"

    1. There are already Official rules that supersede these rules, making them ineffective when trying to argue a point. These official rules are maintained by GM's, Moderators and others who work hard at what they do.

    2. Users cite the "Official Suggested Rules" and other users cite the "Official Rules". Which rule set is the master ruleset? I have been told that the "Official Rules" trump the "Official Suggested Rules". Why have the "Official Suggested Rules" as a posting at all, since the "Official Rules" handle all situations already, see reason number 1.

    3. It is confusing to new readers who may come into a forum via a search and arrive at a set of "Official Suggested Rules". They begin to take these rules to heart and use these. They then never bother to find out if the board has actual "rules" because they have already read the set that says "Official".

    4. There is no GM sign off on the rules in the "Official Suggested Rules". While they may have originally signed off on a set of "Rules", these rules have grown and been added by a single user and maintained by a single user. This is putting GM's/Mod's/Admin's at the risk of having to warn or ban a user due to these "Official Suggested Rules" when they were not even approved.

    5. It creates a situation where users believe they have Mod or GM rights over other posters. This is causing friction among the posters and it has been mentioned more then once in multiple posts that the posting was stickied and therefore these users have the "right" to smack posters around with these rules.

    6. New users are under the impression that the OP of this posting is a GM/Mod/Admin of the board, again causing confusion on the part of the new posters. This is later causing friction as other posters try to impose the OP's rules on the new members.

    There is no hatred, if you have read my posts throughout you will realize that. Any replies that are inflammatory or derogatory well, will simply be scoffed at b:laugh


    b:thanks


    Scar

    **** off hater!

    just because one of Grippies thread's got stickied and your's didn't don't mean you can hate >:O



    To anybody who votes yes in this poll;

    DUMBASSES
  • Posts: 61 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    **** off hater!

    just because one of Grippies thread's got stickied and your's didn't don't mean you can hate >:O



    To anybody who votes yes in this poll;

    DUMBASSES

    Uhm, lets see, I am not quite sure which rules to point out in here anymore since I have no idea whose is right... the official or the "official suggested" but I do believe that both say watch the flaming and personal attacks. Would you like me to point this out for you? I mean I know its hard to read and understand the rules and all.

    I could care LESS if I get stickied, that is just a weird thing to say since I never once asked for any of my ideas to be stickied? This has nothing to do with her topic being stickied at all and everything to do with the confusion her entire topic causes. b:bye
  • Posts: 2,457 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    **** off hater!

    just because one of Grippies thread's got stickied and your's didn't don't mean you can hate >:O



    To anybody who votes yes in this poll;

    DUMBASSES

    i admire your reasoning
  • Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    I'm sorry to say this, BUT:

    ... this thread/poll is pointless. It will not change much and it will be prolly closed soon...

    FOR SURE, it will attract people, who ... well... are of EXTREMELY different opinion than the OP.

    W/e. I could care less. A laugh less or more won't do much difference to me.b:pleased
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Posts: 9,807 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Buttercup, you may not like me, but do you know how much I adore you? :) <--no sarcasm... anyways, I'm ending it here... thanks for making a pointless thread about me and my thread... Haters make me Famous... if you have something you would like to say to me, plz send it in a PM... thank you :)
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]Thankiez to Dorset for the sig!

    MagicHamsta will remain in our hearts forever

    P.S. I am a female venomancer ^^ I know it's rare, isn't it?
  • Posts: 61 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    I'm sorry to say this, BUT:

    ... this thread/poll is pointless. It will not change much and it will be prolly closed soon...

    FOR SURE, it will attract people, who ... well... are of EXTREMELY different opinion than the OP.

    W/e. I could care less. A laugh less or more won't do much difference to me.b:pleased

    It is not pointless, the fact that you do not understand the point does not make it pointless. I am NOT looking for people who are pissed at the OP and if thats all I get I will simply close it. This has nothing to do with any OP or person on this board. It's about the confusion being caused by all the "rules"
  • Posts: 61 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Buttercup, you may not like me, but do you know how much I adore you? :) <--no sarcasm... anyways, I'm ending it here... thanks for making a pointless thread about me and my thread... Haters make me Famous... if you have something you would like to say to me, plz send it in a PM... thank you :)

    Like I said in my last post, I am not looking to pull any haters out of the woodwork. A simple rename from "Official Suggested Rules" to something else would be more then sufficient, maybe a merger into the over all "Official Rules" would work as well. It is also not pointless, multiple people have spoken out against the rules and how they are used/made/modified. This makes it a community issue and needs to be addressed, thats all.

    Scar
  • Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Where did you girls get the idea of me being mad at whomever? Certainly not a post in THIS thread (or any other in the past ....WEEEEEEEEEKS; if not months). Please, learn to read, both of ya. Though I believe Scarlettie's post was influence by Grippie...

    I see no point because .... well ... you'll see. And ofc, me not seeing the point does not mean it's pointless. It's just my own, humble opinion.

    Good luck!!!b:victory
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Posts: 61 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Where did you girls get the idea of me being mad at whomever? Certainly not a post in THIS thread (or any other in the past ....WEEEEEEEEEKS; if not months). Please, learn to read, both of ya. Though I believe Scarlettie's post was influence by Grippie...

    I see no point because .... well ... you'll see. And ofc, me not seeing the point does not mean it's pointless. It's just my own, humble opinion.

    Good luck!!!b:victory

    Lol, written words convey so little feelings at times. I wasn't referring to you being mad, I was just trying to say I wasn't looking for people who were angry at her to rise up against her. This is not what this about, more about how new users perceive the forums. I do thank you for your opinion, that my friend is always welcome! b:thanks

    Scar
  • Posts: 9,807 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Where did you girls get the idea of me being mad at whomever? Certainly not a post in THIS thread (or any other in the past ....WEEEEEEEEEKS; if not months). Please, learn to read, both of ya. Though I believe Scarlettie's post was influence by Grippie...

    I see no point because .... well ... you'll see. And ofc, me not seeing the point does not mean it's pointless. It's just my own, humble opinion.

    Good luck!!!b:victory

    Well you did try to stab me on pirate day b:chuckleb:surrender
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]Thankiez to Dorset for the sig!

    MagicHamsta will remain in our hearts forever

    P.S. I am a female venomancer ^^ I know it's rare, isn't it?
  • Posts: 3,576 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    God, how pointless.

    Didn't even waste my time to read Vuce/Scarletties whole post...

    Seriously you won't reach anything at all...


    Wasn't your original goal to send in a ticket/PM?

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