My Poor Mission

I recommend staying on the pure build. I run hh and nv and I have no problems as long as the cleric knows what they're doing. These days people prefer good dds, and to my knowledge interval demon sins/fist bms are the preferred dd in any instance, especially nv, although sage still isn't a bad choice. My suggestion: Stay pure build, and go demon.

Looks like with no dissenting, Demon Interval pure dex here I come ^^

Rule - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Digging through the forums a bit



Maybe Sage ? 3% bloodpaint to go with the 4aps...at higher dmg...so less dmg taken from boss due to sage spark, and more dmg output, more life gained from bloodpaint..

if hes getting a sin to farm... it means that he really doesn't have **** worth of money. to get sage 4aps he'll need every single piece of gear available (including rank 8 chests). so between him needing to farm and asking questions on the forums... i doubt he'll have anywhere near the amount for 4aps sage.

You can mantain full hp perma sparking and bloodpaint with demon.

Answering some of my own question, Blood defect is found again at lev 95.. Lunar weapon I think. Too far away to work with pricewise atm but something to work towards if the numbers are favorable. I didn't see it show on any of the random adds on the other weps in the DB.

-Shadow Legend (1-2 Sockets)
[Lv. 9]
[Attack Rate 1.25 (Atk/Sec0}
[Range 2.50]
[Physical Attack 386-579]
[Durability 190/190]
[Req. Class Assassin]
[Req. Level 74]
[Req. Strength 41]
[Req. Dex 224]
{Blood Defect: Has a chance to Recover 10% HP.}
[Physical Attack +100]
[Dexterity +14~15]
[Critical Hit Rate +2%]



-Hook and Thorn
[Grade 10]
[Attack Speed 1.25]
[Attack Range 2.5]
[Physical attack 423-635]
[Str required 44]
[Agi required 242]
[Level Required: 80]
[Physical Attack +63]
{Interval Between Hits -0.05 seconds}
Dexterity +12~13

-Unconsciousness
[Grade 13]
[Attack Speed 1.25]
[Attack Range 2.5]
[Physical attack 522-783]
[Str required 52]
[Agi required 287]
[Level Required: 95]
HP: +245
Critical Hit Rate +1%
{Blood Defect: Has a chance to recover 10% HP.}

What I'm really looking for here I think is whether the increased interval offsets the increased HP gain from Blood Defect over time or vice versa. Possibly additional loss of speed might effect chi creation and slow spark usuage, though a question of break point might come up there. Finally how significant is the difference in damage?

-interval currently I have :
-.1 bracers (lev 60)
-.05 rank top (lev 60)

Longterm goal is of course additional interval which might effect this as well but not atm.

This is with the intent of farming, so a balance between damage and survival is what I'm seeking not nesc just dps.
I'm pretty hopelessly over my head when I start trying to do the math on this though >.<!
Any number crunchers out there able to lend some time?

IGetNoLove - Heavens Tear wrote: »

First part to figuring this out..how frequently does blood defect process? Anyone have #'s on it?

No one knows. Someone once tested the proc on Crimson Horn: Soulsmasher and it was about 5% and people seemed to take that as a sign that the proc % is indeed 5%.

However, what can be said for sure is the the Blood Defect is ****. Basically, it's a chance to recover 10% HP, whereas Bloodpaint is guaranteed. Also, with the Crabmeat Yiaozi, you shouldn't really need the proc anyway.

And btw, Hook and Thorn has the best DPS of any dagger between 80 and 99 with the exceptions of Hitman Legend (Sages Weapon) and Lunar Dissector (Warsoul). That is, as long as the refines are comparable. In fact, if you're comparing 2 socket weapons, Hook and Thorn is much better than TT90 or TT99 because of the costs for the 2nd socket: H&T costs 100 Socket Stones, TT90s cost 1000. The extra 9,000,000 or so that you'd save, you could use to buy Dragon Orbs and get your H&T to +5.

Kinda sad to see everything so cut and dry. Go demon, pure dex, interval is boss. Best (Cheapest) sin farmin!

IGetNoLove - Heavens Tear wrote: »

10 levels later, faced with a bit of a question. The level 74 token weapon has an add called "Blood Defect" that if it procs will give 10% hp back. For instances this sounds really fantastic esp added with bloodpaint.
I've been aiming for hook and thorn for the .05 interval and am now wondering if there are instead other weps that have this same add. OR if the additional interval from the H+T will gain more health back overall.
I guess another question arises as well, whether priority for this should be more DPS or increased health gain to survive and prosper in instances. Any insight?

Also, to follow up on the original topic, Demon 1/4 str/dex build is the build I'm looking at.

In my opinion it Depends, Dps Rocks but more Aps And Dps Means u wanna Make Barb cant hold agro ... so be ready to spark use genie pots apiths etc to survive yehh yehh bloodpaint is nice When u not steal agro it basically makes u no need healing on aoe hits and etc But when boss is hitting u 1000+ not works so good unless u have 3+ aps . By the other hand yehh blood Defect works alot on mobs on bosses wont help u really that much