SoulofSilence success rate

CharOfLight - Raging Tide
CharOfLight - Raging Tide Posts: 13 Arc User
edited September 2010 in Psychic
Hi
its late im tired and my eyes hurt, so i apologize if i skipped the formula for calculating the success rate of the Soul of Silence skill in one of the stickies... b:beatup

Heres my question formulated in a sentence:

How can I calculate the success rate for silencing a target with Soul of Silence, which is determined by my Soulforce?

(like for eg the success rate for a lvl 70 psy with 8500 soulforce :) )
thx in advance b:thanks
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  • volst
    volst Posts: 180
    edited September 2010
    Hover over soulforce in character screen and figure from there?
  • CharOfLight - Raging Tide
    CharOfLight - Raging Tide Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    ok i asked around.. a lvl 70's psychic's chance to successfully cast soul of silence is under 6% 8[ so i guess that aint something you can rely on when pking :/
  • Derressh - Dreamweaver
    Derressh - Dreamweaver Posts: 806 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    No, Soul of Silence isn't really all that reliable...ever.

    It's more of an "Oh, that's cool that it happened to kick in, I get a free hit" kind of thing, usually.

    Though I think it's been previously determined that a full +12 Psy at level 100 would have enough Soulforce to give it roughly a 30-40% chance, which is pretty legit.
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  • Ellantria - Heavens Tear
    Ellantria - Heavens Tear Posts: 129 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Derressh - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    No, Soul of Silence isn't really all that reliable...ever.

    It's more of an "Oh, that's cool that it happened to kick in, I get a free hit" kind of thing, usually.

    Though I think it's been previously determined that a full +12 Psy at level 100 would have enough Soulforce to give it roughly a 30-40% chance, which is pretty legit.

    Yeah, I have 10k soulforce and barely have a 6% chance to silence them with it on.

    It's cool for barbs or BMs when they tank, since they are gonna get hit a lot, so it triggers more often for them. But for anyone else, it's really not reliable.
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  • volst
    volst Posts: 180
    edited September 2010
    Always good to have in rb.
  • Kai_Umi - Heavens Tear
    Kai_Umi - Heavens Tear Posts: 265 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Ellantria - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Yeah, I have 10k soulforce and barely have a 6% chance to silence them with it on.

    It's cool for barbs or BMs when they tank, since they are gonna get hit a lot, so it triggers more often for them. But for anyone else, it's really not reliable.

    First If you mean tank boss it doesn t work on them
    Second it s annoying thing to see the mob run away of you when you are a melee class ijs...
  • ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver
    ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,457 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Ellantria - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Yeah, I have 10k soulforce and barely have a 6% chance to silence them with it on.

    It's cool for barbs or BMs when they tank, since they are gonna get hit a lot, so it triggers more often for them. But for anyone else, it's really not reliable.
    Kai_Umi - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    First If you mean tank boss it doesn t work on them
    Second it s annoying thing to see the mob run away of you when you are a melee class ijs...

    doesnt it also cost mana? at least that's what the description says, I must admit that I never checked my mana pool...

    btw I think that it would activate in fb19 bosses.. but whatever XD
  • Kai_Umi - Heavens Tear
    Kai_Umi - Heavens Tear Posts: 265 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    doesnt it also cost mana? at least that's what the description says, I must admit that I never checked my mana pool...

    btw I think that it would activate in fb19 bosses.. but whatever XD

    b:chuckle maybe but this boss die so fast anyway, and yes it cost mana b:pleased
  • Longknife - Harshlands
    Longknife - Harshlands Posts: 4,843 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    I have 15062 Soulforce and 9.04% chance of silence.

    Assuming 15000 = 9%, .01% chance of silence would equal 15.5 soulforce.

    15000/15.5 = 967.74

    967.74 x .01 = 9.67% chance of stun.

    Not exact, but a rough estimate at least. From that...Seems like 16.6 Soulforce = .01% chance of silence.


    Max soulforce possible (for a level 100) is like 55250, so about an even 33% chance.
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  • Born_Free - Harshlands
    Born_Free - Harshlands Posts: 977 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    If LONGKNIFE, (one of the five 100+ Psychics in Harshlands) only has a 9% chance....It might be just me, but it's honestly not worth relying on. You may get lucky, and it actually stick...but I'd rather not take the chance.

    if you feel like spending ten grand refining your gear to +12, it could possibly maybe slightly kinda almost be actually worth it....with a part chance of raining meatballs.

    (9.1k, and 5% chance to stick.)
  • /Eclipse - Harshlands4
    /Eclipse - Harshlands4 Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    This formulas should be right:
    To calculate your chance to trigger SoS: Chance to silence [%] = Soulforce x 3/5000
    To calculate the Soulforce needed for a given chance to trigger SoS: Soulforce = Chance to silence [%] x 5000/3

    You are right if you say you can't rely on this skill, but this skill can save your life in critical situations. If you are ganked by several mobs it triggers very often so you have more time to react (since it is a passive skill, it doesn't consume time). In instances like frostcovered city or rainbow gamma/delta you can increase the survivability of your cleric or mage. And in TW it can be nice at the catapult puller too b:bye
  • ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver
    ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,457 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Kai_Umi - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    b:chuckle maybe but this boss die so fast anyway, and yes it cost mana b:pleased

    have you noticed how much?
  • XKi - Lost City
    XKi - Lost City Posts: 103 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    With 10k+ mana...it doesn't make a hell of a lot of difference lol
  • Ellantria - Heavens Tear
    Ellantria - Heavens Tear Posts: 129 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    have you noticed how much?

    I've never really noticed how much MP it drains, but, I'd guess not that much, since whenever I cast it on a tank and the effect takes place, their bar doesn't go down much.
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  • Longknife - Harshlands
    Longknife - Harshlands Posts: 4,843 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Born_Free - Harshlands wrote: »
    If LONGKNIFE, (one of the five 100+ Psychics in Harshlands) only has a 9% chance....It might be just me, but it's honestly not worth relying on. You may get lucky, and it actually stick...but I'd rather not take the chance.

    if you feel like spending ten grand refining your gear to +12, it could possibly maybe slightly kinda almost be actually worth it....with a part chance of raining meatballs.

    (9.1k, and 5% chance to stick.)

    Nah you guys need to PK more, then you'll appreciate it.


    Think about it: APS sins and BMs. They're super suceptible to getting hit with silence, especially since most just keep on meleeing you even when you have Psy will on. Saves me from them all the time. It's also a lot nicer when you've got the Sage/demon version of it: increased duration or increased chance of silence.


    Plus I mean, a Psy with 33% silence chance would be absolutely sick.
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  • Demans - Lost City
    Demans - Lost City Posts: 105 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    XKi - Lost City wrote: »
    With 10k+ mana...it doesn't make a hell of a lot of difference lol

    speak for urself, when im tanking my frost runs it freaking kills my mana

    WTB sage soul of vengence b:surrender
    well when ur LA psy has same wep grade and refine as ur pure AA wiz, hits as high per shot, has faster dps, and has 2x the crit %, time to retire the wiz............

    dam op fishy....
  • Hypnos - Raging Tide
    Hypnos - Raging Tide Posts: 1,235 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    I think he was talking about soul of silence

    And Soul of Silence only consume MP upon trigger silence effect which is ~8% chance for me

    It only consume ~300mp which is totally worth it and not that much of an mp consumption
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  • ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver
    ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,457 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Hypnos - Raging Tide wrote: »
    I think he was talking about soul of silence

    And Soul of Silence only consume MP upon trigger silence effect which is ~8% chance for me

    It only consume ~300mp which is totally worth it and not that much of an mp consumption

    yup, i was talking about SoS.
    indeed, 300 is not a mp cost for me
    but i've seen it cast on sins/bm pullers.. and 300mp is not exactly nothing for them xD
  • Longknife - Harshlands
    Longknife - Harshlands Posts: 4,843 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    yup, i was talking about SoS.
    indeed, 300 is not a mp cost for me
    but i've seen it cast on sins/bm pullers.. and 300mp is not exactly nothing for them xD

    Always useful in TW though, where everyone's typically charmed. The barb I'm squaded with absolutely loves the two buffs.
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  • UrDian - Harshlands
    UrDian - Harshlands Posts: 81 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    I have 37,799 SoulForce and the Silence is 22.68%. I can tell you that in PvP, that is awesome vs 5aps sins and bms. Basically, they're getting silenced nearly every second so I have a chance to get out of stun and fight back.

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