Veno NOOB

idgaf1 wrote: »

1. Arcane Vit vs Pure Mag Builds:
A) Arcane Vit build vs pure mag build, which is better to hit 1-60 quick and then continue on to use either robe or HA 7x/8x/9x with better stability and able to solo the TT dungeons with any legendary pet? Well the better one be cheaper or more expensive to follow through with for the build to work?
I believe Pure Mag Build would be better if you want to reach lvl 60 faster. You will have high attack so mobs will die faster (considering you have a good weapon as well). You can continue with any build after lvl 60. Venomancers are incredibly flexible and versatile. You can use all types of armour with them and still work great as long as you know what you are doing. In this case I really can't help you because all of the builds have their advantages and disadvantages.
For TT soloing I'd suggest Vit-Arcane build or HA build. I, personally, am not much into TT soloing so I don't have the experience but I know that as you level up and are able to solo higher level TTs, Bosses will have nasty AoE attacks. In that case Vit/HA will be better. Either way I hope someone more experienced in the area will tell you.
Also, HA build is usually recommended after lvl80 but if you are sure about yourself you can restat anytime. I'm going to do so with my second venomancer at lvl70. Remember that HA will be quite expensive due to the need of refines and shards. Maybe you should go with an arcane build and if you wish restat later when you have the money.
As for the legendary pets, there are only two and out of them only Hercules can solo TT because Phoenix is air pet therefore can't be taken into the instance.



Arcane builds pure Mag vs Vit. What happens after hitting lvl 60? You know the time were ppl question them selfs and say did I ****** after a year's worth of grinding?
Well i guess the routine is to restate with real money and hope your next build won't be such a waste of time and grinding in the 1st place, Right?
It depends on you, whether you will love the build you've been using so far or not. I went Vit-Arcane on Desdi (capped 50 Vit) and LA (soon to restat to HA) on my Devayen. I enjoy both builds and I made two different Venomancers because I wanted to try almost all potential builds. If you can afford it you could simply try all kind of builds on your Venomancer and decide which one you enjoy the most (that would be better at a high lvl such as lvl80 where the changes will be more visible).
Vit-Arcane will give you more survivability (if we compare both builds with the exact same armour) but Pure Mag will give you higher attack (though Venomancers will never reach the attack of a Wizard or a Psychic).

C) A Vit arcane build is better then a nuker cause it's well rounded...
Is this true or should I not even ask, because the possibility of both answers coming at me from both sides, well undoubtedly cause an argument which well never help me decided lol for myself? I rather hear pro's not con's or facts not fiction.
Personally, although I always risk in terms of skills, I never do it in term of armour/build. I always prefer having a build doesn't "ruin" something in order to gain more power on something else. Ruin is not the exact word but I don't know how else to describe it. It could just be myself that I cannot afford very high refines and expensive shards for my armour.
More survivability means that you won't get 1shot in instances. I prefer to be able to survive hits and/or AoE without the need of healing. Sometimes things will go wrong and sometimes you will end up having to keep the boss away from the Cleric, run with him around, save time etc. I've been in those situations and my build offered me the ability to survive (of course with the help of genie skills or pots etc.). I'd rather be able to survive on my own in a squad than be a good DD (the other DD classes are better than you anyway.) I focus on my debuffs in order to increase my own damage while at the same time I help the whole squad's damage output. That's how I love to play as a Venomancer.
So what I've said here is just my opinion and how I like to play. A Pure Mag Venomancer build will have her own perspective. Hopefully one of them will comment here b:pleased

D) It is said that, Magmite is well rounded pet for over all levling or is that now Mr.Glaceir Walker? Times change it's now year 2010, but you tell me sense I have 0 expertise as a Venomancer.
Glacial Walker is the current best tank pet after the Hercules.

E) Is it possible with an arcane vit build or nuker build, to at lvl 50 with a golem pet, take on mobs 50% higher lvl meaning lvl 90 then your would be 50? As was stated in previous post on this thread.
Pretty much all Venomancer builds can do that or should be able to. As long as you have a good pet too.


A) As for my build, I've been putting 1 Vit, 1 Str, and 3 Mag most of the time. This lets me switch fairly easily between Fox and Human forms, depending on what I need. Fox lets my pet keep aggro, and lets me use some of those skills against bosses as well. Human form just lets me blaze through mobs with heavy hitting spells (yes, venomous scarab is of of my faves)...
So that's the full potential of a Vit-build huh, or is the legendary pets needed to back up the right proformence of that build? To boost the weak parts as you well say, or else the build falls apart with normal pets?
The legendary pets and pets in general have nothing to do with your build. It's how you use them and your skills. Pets don't make the Venomancer after all. A legendary pet will compliment you if you are a good Venomancer already. If you are a bad one, it won't make you any better.You'll just be the tank for the lazy Barbarians.
Don't worry too much about the legendary pets. They are demanded by many factions/squads but they are not a must have no matter what unless you really want them.


A) So, if understood it correctly, then
weapon damage = Base damage/(1 + (magic / 100))?
May I ask why divided?
its just the weird way the game formula works.
p.atk works in the same weird way
(equipment + level) * (1 + (str or dex) / 150 + mastery)
equipment = weapon's min or max, garnets, rings, +p.atk mods, and arrows
I'm sorry I can't help you here b:surrender I'm not good at math, I dislike math and I don't know much about formulas.


A) It's rumored I guess that, if you can crit with bramble, im guessing you can crit with healing. Is this so? Can you crit healing and it not show in-game the positive effect stats? Or is this just a myth or rumor waiting to die off? If this is true then wouldn't a pure mage build, benefit from this fact?
If a Blademaster is fighting with you and hit does a critical hit then Bramble Guard will return 60% of them damage (or 200% if it's Bramble Hood) which means, yes, Brambles can do criticals.
Healing, however, doesn't. As far as I know there's no proof of critical heals.

Someone else mentioned, An upgraded magmite can solo the TT as well. I started TT at lvl 63 with a crystaline magmite lvl 4 bash lvl 3 sandblow and lvl 4 tough and i can solo it easy. Is this too possible or a myth?
By upgraded they meant a Magmite that has legendary skills like the ones Hercules has. Yes those magmites are able to solo more TT bosses even in squad mode but they will always lack the HP of a Hercules and the Magic Defence, thefore it won't be able to tank as many as the Hercules can.



C) bleeding is still bugged or was that rumored in the past?
As far as I know, it's still bugged.


A) why just going pure mag/ nuke crazy is stupid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmdsbQNMs1k
I LMAO if this is at higher lvls with a Veno, then I'm game. Looks pretty darn successful and solid to me. 1-2 hits didn't even dent his HP. It's done at a safe range, and if not duplicating the attack range of an archer. So I doubt this is a stupid build. jealousy maybe but not stupid...
It's not stupid. Like I've said, Venomancers can be played in many ways. However, don't forget that you will not always be far away and safe. The mob will not always be able to die in 3 hits (eg. elite mobs or bosses) and there if you don't have good armour your HP will be low and might not survive. I do not have enough experience with this build so I really hope somebody else can add theirs. I just want to point out that when you are thinking of a build try to consider as many scenarios and situations as possible. Don't let yourself be amazed by the build just because you've seen someone do something cool with it. b:victory