If you could choose only one...

Dissonians - Heavens Tear
Dissonians - Heavens Tear Posts: 14 Arc User
edited September 2010 in Wizard
What if you could choose only one Elemental attack skill tree for your Wizard.What Element would you choose Fire,Water or Earth and Why?
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  • Adroit - Lost City
    Adroit - Lost City Posts: 4,628 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    water for sage bids

    edit: meh I'd change to earth.. stone barrier, blink, undine, FoW, sandstorm, stone rain, and mountain seize gives a pretty good balance between damage and survival skills..
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  • DDEShare - Raging Tide
    DDEShare - Raging Tide Posts: 71 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Fire alone is ****. I'm more edging towards Water because of the heal, lol. 80% slow with Spikes, kite with Gush........then fail after that, lol. Yeah I don't know. Bit of an unfair question, ijs, this isn't WoW XD
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  • H_hatake - Harshlands
    H_hatake - Harshlands Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    water....i love that i always use water idk why..b:laugh
  • Dissonians - Heavens Tear
    Dissonians - Heavens Tear Posts: 14 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Fire alone is ****. I'm more edging towards Water because of the heal, lol. 80% slow with Spikes, kite with Gush........then fail after that, lol. Yeah I don't know. Bit of an unfair question, ijs, this isn't WoW XD
    I like Water myself because it has slow spells and an aWsome aoe spell.The nockback stuff can be done by a genie too
  • kknboy
    kknboy Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Water for pve and earth for pvp? xD Does undine count as earth since it does "lesser earth damage" lol
  • Shadowfire - Dreamweaver
    Shadowfire - Dreamweaver Posts: 356 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Earth. Stone barrier and force of will are 2 key skills i wouldn't want to do without. A 4 second sleep with 2 minute cooldown is not enough of a control skill to be able to pvp against anything lol.
  • HarmOwnie - Dreamweaver
    HarmOwnie - Dreamweaver Posts: 574 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Unlike other mmorpgs only choosing 1 element wont be a good idea for various reasons. I would recommend to get certain skills and leave out others to save coins and spirit. But to make your wizard working i would suggest to lvl at least these core skills

    gush
    pyrogram

    stone barrier + if you like to save mana glacial embrace
    sandstorm

    wellspring quarf up to 5 for essential sutra
    distance shrink
    Force of Will lvl 1
    Will of Phoenix lvl 1

    + 1 of the ultis which is up to personal preference if you go sage take bids if you go demon take blade tempest or ms

    With the skills above you should be able to pve kill mobs but you have to be aware of the fact that mob elemental types can give you a nice dmg bonus when you attack them with the right element. So by only pushing 1 elemental tree you wont be able to use the full potential of the wiz. Of course there are some skills which are not necessary to max for pve grinding but are crucial for pvp like force of will which is a rather expensive one to lvl on the other hand there are some skills with mainly pve purpose like glacial snare. Here you can use gush instead (of course it does less dmg and the slow isnt that great but it is sufficient to lvl) In the end it is up to you which skills you want to max. You have to get lvl 1 of most of the skills anyway to learn higher skills so try it out at grade 1 and choose whether you like the effect / dmg

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  • HarmOwnie - Dreamweaver
    HarmOwnie - Dreamweaver Posts: 574 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    kknboy wrote: »
    Water for pve and earth for pvp? xD Does undine count as earth since it does "lesser earth damage" lol
    Undine is an elemental debuff and one of the 79 skills which is not part of the normal skill trees. It is definitely worth it but for grinding you wont need it (except if you also wanna kill magical res mobs fast). To learn it you need 20 apocalypse pages ~ 3kk coins + 10 ink ~ 1kk coins + 1kk spirit so i guess if someone is on a budget he might want to get the skill later on
  • Zaelmith - Sanctuary
    Zaelmith - Sanctuary Posts: 84 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    undine might be cosidered an earth skill since the description says something of an idk what wiz being specialized in earth magic and because of that it deals earth damage..i mean hailstorm isn't in any skill tree either but u can't say it's not a water skill...but meh does it rly matter
  • Arma_Geddon - Heavens Tear
    Arma_Geddon - Heavens Tear Posts: 163 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    I'm content with all 3 elements...
    The doctor will see you now.
  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    earth most likely

    though ima miss sage BIDS/gush/snare
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  • HexOmega - Dreamweaver
    HexOmega - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,342 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    All you need is Gush
    i like potato
  • Tainaker - Harshlands
    Tainaker - Harshlands Posts: 302 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    you only need Emberstorm and Crown of Flame

    ijs
  • Abysm - Heavens Tear
    Abysm - Heavens Tear Posts: 231 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    you only need Emberstorm and Crown of Flame

    ijs

    that's cheating, you can't pick the two best skills b:shocked
  • JiEunxD - Archosaur
    JiEunxD - Archosaur Posts: 220 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Earth and Demon. Stone rain has 20% chance to stun on Demon. Stone barrier for 2x pdef value, or 2.5x pdef value for demons not actual %age though. Pitfall, well it's useless. Sandstorm is a really important nuking skill, and does even better damage with Demon. Force of Will - Must have for wizard, sleeps opponents near-instantly. Mountain Seize - Stun for 6 seconds, maybe have another axe BM nuke the **** out of the stunned in TW. Also, Undine Strike - debuff skill that cries "pwn".
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  • HarmOwnie - Dreamweaver
    HarmOwnie - Dreamweaver Posts: 574 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    undine might be cosidered an earth skill since the description says something of an idk what wiz being specialized in earth magic and because of that it deals earth damage..i mean hailstorm isn't in any skill tree either but u can't say it's not a water skill...but meh does it rly matter

    hailstorm is a water spell because the skill description says:

    "...causing it and all surrounding enemies to suffer Water damage equal to..."
  • Adroit - Lost City
    Adroit - Lost City Posts: 4,628 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Earth and Demon. Stone rain has 20% chance to stun on Demon. Stone barrier for 2x pdef value, or 2.5x pdef value for demons not actual %age though. Pitfall, well it's useless. Sandstorm is a really important nuking skill, and does even better damage with Demon. Force of Will - Must have for wizard, sleeps opponents near-instantly. Mountain Seize - Stun for 6 seconds, maybe have another axe BM nuke the **** out of the stunned in TW. Also, Undine Strike - debuff skill that cries "pwn".

    Don't know why I'm even posting, but sage sandstorm ends up doing more than demon sandstorm after the sage masteries (assuming end game wep)

    FoW does not sleep, it seals/silences the target.. which may seem trivial to you, but is actually a very important distinction when it comes to pvp.

    Don't understand what you are getting at with an axe bm, axe bms don't usually hit very hard, but they are useful for stun + dragon.
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  • Borsuc - Raging Tide
    Borsuc - Raging Tide Posts: 1,526 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Don't know why I'm even posting, but sage sandstorm ends up doing more than demon sandstorm after the sage masteries (assuming end game wep)
    But then demon sandstorm crits more than sage sandstorm b:avoid
  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    But then demon sandstorm crits more than sage sandstorm b:avoid

    b:cutei think my sandstorm has a 80% chance to crit cause i crit with it all the time


    wtb > sage version?
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze
  • Sirrobert - Dreamweaver
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,395 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    I really can't imagine my wizzy with only 1 element.

    But if I had to, it'd probably be water. Best nuke there is, and a great kiting skil (slow down). And I can almost cycle water skils perma. Only need 1 more skill during the last cooldown of GS.
    Though I'd miss the knockbacks than
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  • Borsuc - Raging Tide
    Borsuc - Raging Tide Posts: 1,526 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Fire. I'd definitely miss Gush (but then other people should get handicapped too b:laugh) but seriously one of the only skills that makes us useful PvE wise is DB in stuff like rebirth. Not to mention, fire has a lot of useful AOEs (except emberstorm unless demon), and the only physical spell we have too.

    But earth also has distance shrink and FoW... and best shield. And water has Morning Dew. b:surrender
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