How To Kill A Psychic

Crescentia - Harshlands
Crescentia - Harshlands Posts: 112 Arc User
edited September 2010 in Psychic
I'm level 100 and I can't kill a psychic.. *looks down* -.-
I mean, yes I have killed psychics while they were not paying attention. But when they are fully aware that I"m attacking them, I can't kill them. It feels like they have both amazing physical defense and magic defense. Nothing I do seems to hurt them that bad. It's probably because I don't understand how psychic work..

So guys, what's the deal Lol
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  • Derressh - Dreamweaver
    Derressh - Dreamweaver Posts: 806 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    You can't kill us. We're invincible.

    /troll

    In all honesty though, it's just a matter of keeping a close eye on their buffs/your debuffs, and timing your sleep.

    If they're sitting in white voodoo (purple shields around them), have fun. It's tough to get past that many defense levels if they have a charm. You'll mainly want to hit them with their black voodoo on (red swords around them) which gives them -11 defense levels, making them terribly squishy.

    If you see them use soulburn, try and sleep them before they get it out. Cleric's sleep is nice since it doesn't get reflected by our Soul of Retaliation. If they get the soulburn out, kite them until it wears out. If you try and attack/heal you'll only end up hurting/killing yourself.

    If they use Psychic will, you can either attempt to kill them with magic attacks, or sleep them until it wears out and proceed to Plume-shot them again.

    It might also help to have some anti-stun apoth/genie skills on hand since we like to use Earth Vector (AoE stun) and Soul of Stunning (stun upon hit).


    I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Psychics are VERY hard to take down if we're fully prepared for the fight (aware of your presence and full chi).
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    I main a 97 Psy named /\bra. The forums don't like his name.
    So I post on my Barb.
    [On possibly-permanent hiatus]
  • Distinction - Raging Tide
    Distinction - Raging Tide Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    You can't kill us. We're invincible.

    /troll

    In all honesty though, it's just a matter of keeping a close eye on their buffs/your debuffs, and timing your sleep.

    If they're sitting in white voodoo (purple shields around them), have fun. It's tough to get past that many defense levels if they have a charm. You'll mainly want to hit them with their black voodoo on (red swords around them) which gives them -11 defense levels, making them terribly squishy.

    If you see them use soulburn, try and sleep them before they get it out. Cleric's sleep is nice since it doesn't get reflected by our Soul of Retaliation. If they get the soulburn out, kite them until it wears out. If you try and attack/heal you'll only end up hurting/killing yourself.

    If they use Psychic will, you can either attempt to kill them with magic attacks, or sleep them until it wears out and proceed to Plume-shot them again.

    It might also help to have some anti-stun apoth/genie skills on hand since we like to use Earth Vector (AoE stun) and Soul of Stunning (stun upon hit).


    I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Psychics are VERY hard to take down if we're fully prepared for the fight (aware of your presence and full chi).

    great. now she knows.....
  • Derressh - Dreamweaver
    Derressh - Dreamweaver Posts: 806 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    great. now she knows.....

    Darn. Not like you have a 9x/10x psy on harshlands anyway. b:chuckle
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    I main a 97 Psy named /\bra. The forums don't like his name.
    So I post on my Barb.
    [On possibly-permanent hiatus]
  • Longknife - Harshlands
    Longknife - Harshlands Posts: 4,843 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    I'm level 100 and I can't kill a psychic.. *looks down* -.-
    I mean, yes I have killed psychics while they were not paying attention. But when they are fully aware that I"m attacking them, I can't kill them. It feels like they have both amazing physical defense and magic defense. Nothing I do seems to hurt them that bad. It's probably because I don't understand how psychic work..

    So guys, what's the deal Lol

    You're a cleric

    If a Psy attacks you, you're dead.
    If you attack the Psy, it's dead.

    If you're both aware of one another, it comes down to a quick-draw match between your sleep spell and Earth Vector.

    Things to take note of:


    -Learn to recognize Psy will. If you see it cast, stop using physical spells.
    -If you get soulburned, just run. Soulburn is the no.1 method a Psy will use to try and kill you, since your magic defense is very high, making you very hard to kill otherwise, since you can heal well. If you get hit by Earth Vector and the soulburned as the stun dies though, it MIGHT be worth it to sleep the Psy. DON'T spam heal after sleeping the Psy though. Wait for Soulburn to wear off.
    -If you get sleep on the Psy and you see it has a bubble shield on, take your damn time attacking. You're gonna wanna do as much damage possible in one hit (debuff + your highest physical skill, perhaps spark too), and if Soul of Retaliation is on the Psy, it'll massively cut down your damage. (Soul of Retaliation + White voodoo CAN tank a barb's perdition) Your sleep spell is long enough that you can usually wait for it to wear off before attacking.
    -ALWAYS start with sleep. A Psy is gonna start with Earth Vector and you're gonna start with sleep.
    -I honestly don't know any Psys with good physical defense, so what you're probably fighting is White voodoo. Just stick to physical spells unless it Psy wills; magic spells won't do jack, especially if the Psy has white voodoo on.
    -Heal heal heal. Your ironheart heals will out-do our damage in straight-out spam. We may hit hard and quick, but you've got arcane armor.


    Generally, the challenge is overcoming Soulburn, but if you overcome that and remain defensive (as in, keep ironhearting yourself), there's little more that the Psy can do. Our only REAL shot at killing a cleric is Soulburn: it prevents you from healing and allows us to get free shots in OR it'll kill you itself. As long as you can survive that, then it'll be another 30 seconds before we get such a nice clean shot at you.
    I <3 AGOREY
  • UrDian - Harshlands
    UrDian - Harshlands Posts: 81 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    I'm surprised at how few psychics there are on Harshlands. We're an amazing end game class, expecially with good gear. It seems that everyone went sin so that they can stealth and pop squishies, but a well equipped psy is generally equal to the task against any sin.
  • Born_Free - Harshlands
    Born_Free - Harshlands Posts: 977 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    I agree. I only know about....maybe 20 Psychics around my level who are worth a damn. As I'm aware, there's about...maybe 30 of us who have hit around the 80+ mark. That I know of, there's thunder_fist, Prixilla, and Hvati who have made it to the 90 mark.
    To my knowledge, Longknife, Anemonie, UrDian, and that cashshopping jerk from Chronicle are the only 10x Psychics in Harshlands.....I may need to take a look at our stats.
  • Ellantria - Heavens Tear
    Ellantria - Heavens Tear Posts: 129 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Well, it all comes down to this with PvP against psys...

    If you can't kill us within the span of a few seconds, you'll either A) lose or B) become so harrassed by us simply not dying that you give up and run away.

    But anyway...

    Time is the thing with psychics. Some of our most nasty skills have a short time to them. If you can find a way to wait out all that time until the psy has nothing but cooldowns, you should win.

    Or at least, that's the only way clerics have beaten me in PvP.
    ┐('~`;)┌
  • LittIewg - Heavens Tear
    LittIewg - Heavens Tear Posts: 129 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    If ur talking about pk..Then yeah pretty much u need to catch the psych without some of his buffs on,But even if u do fight a psych fully aware of ur presence and buffed. Sleep,Debuff,Wait for his buffs to go off,Spam ur magic killer attacks hehe=) And DONT EVER forget to start out with sleep first as Longknife said..That is critical,Because Idk about most psychs but in pk against a cleric I landslide to stop sleep,then I vector and while the cleric is stunned I hit them with soulburn and its an easy win usually,Psychs are always gonna try and soulburn u no matter what,Because we all know clerics have very good mag def. I fight way 2 many clerics who dont start off with sleep and end up losing,So basically if u can time ur sleep right(at the beginning of the fight to stop soulburn or vector) Then all u have to do is wait for the psychs bufs to fade away and take him down,Also im basing this scenario on the psych not being in white voodoo but black voodoo lol.Not many clerics have beaten me,But thats just because they underestimate my class or just downright dont know anything about psychs. I'll try putting some vids up of me and a few other psychs pk'ing against clerics(I suck when it comes to anything on comps but games lol),Maybe it'll lend u a hand with ur prob,Hope I helped Glb:victory
  • Hypnos - Raging Tide
    Hypnos - Raging Tide Posts: 1,235 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    soulburn is nasty, but I believe Cleric's Stream of Rejuvenation out heal the soulburn damage, despite the slow channeling (well, which cleric doesn't have -%chan gear anyway), though it may depend on the psychic gear. Can any cleric try it and let me know? ;)
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Born_Free - Harshlands
    Born_Free - Harshlands Posts: 977 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Being the "unknown" class....That's why I rolled a Psychic...everybody wants to play the badass, so very few people will be rolling Psychics...therefore not understanding us at all, thus giving us a huge advantage.

    THAT is why I'm working to get to endgame, before everybody figures us out. b:shocked
  • HarmOwnie - Dreamweaver
    HarmOwnie - Dreamweaver Posts: 574 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Being the "unknown" class....That's why I rolled a Psychic...everybody wants to play the badass, so very few people will be rolling Psychics...therefore not understanding us at all, thus giving us a huge advantage.

    THAT is why I'm working to get to endgame, before everybody figures us out. b:shocked

    even if a player understands the mechanics of a psychic it will be very hard to kill the psychic if a player knows to play well.

    My problem as a wiz with fighting psychic is that in most of the cases the psychic is able to put all this nasty buffs on himself before i can stop him or before my spells hit him he has always time for appropriate countermeasures. Once he successfully has casted his channeling debuff its time for me to run away. Even more annoying is that a lot of the debuffs from psychic have really low cooldown. There is already a thread in the wiz section where people talk about tactics but all that came out is that it is really hard to take a psychic down because the wiz needs to kill fast to survive and this simply wont work that good against a psychic unless he makes an error
  • Crescentia - Harshlands
    Crescentia - Harshlands Posts: 112 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    urDian and Longknife<3 I love you guys b:thanks

    I guess the only good psychics in harshlands are in my own faction, isn't that right? b:victory
    But it's still nice to know how to kill you guys
  • Longknife - Harshlands
    Longknife - Harshlands Posts: 4,843 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    urDian and Longknife<3 I love you guys b:thanks

    I guess the only good psychics in harshlands are in my own faction, isn't that right? b:victory
    But it's still nice to know how to kill you guys

    There are 100 different scenarios in which to defeat a Psy as a cleric.

    I have given you the tools neccesary to win 99 of them. The last one I have reserved in case I may someday have to use it against YOU. b:cool
    I <3 AGOREY
  • CIoudStrife_ - Lost City
    CIoudStrife_ - Lost City Posts: 42 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    just my two sense....

    Clerics are my least favorite class to fight, i find them quite difficult.

    couple hints for you confused clerics.

    1. Make sure you pop an ironheart or two. If you do that it's going to be EXTREMELY hard to kill you unless you just wantonly attack while you are soulburned. We don't have a debuff or phys attacks with which to take you out if you are popping heals on yourself, we just cant out DD your heals.

    2. Save your sleep, don't use it at the beginning of a fight. The heals you popped on yourself should keep you alive through earth vector and our stuns. the moment you are soulburned, use your sleep and wait the soulburn out. then heal, phys debuff the psy, and spam plume shot.

    Thats really all yall ahve to know. It's not hard to take down a psy as a cleric, or as a wiz for that matter.
  • Exegesis - Heavens Tear
    Exegesis - Heavens Tear Posts: 721 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    make a sin.. they can kill anyone with **** gear b:laugh
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] OH really? What a surprise.
  • UrDian - Harshlands
    UrDian - Harshlands Posts: 81 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Sin might beat a psy with **** gear, but a sin is no match for a well geared and prepared psy. A sin generally can't kill me if I'm in White Voodoo, and the only time I'll be in Black is if I'm basically immune to physical attacks.
  • alyzee79
    alyzee79 Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Hello I am looking for a German speaking players.
    I have a lvl 62 Psy and they do not get it.
    As my english is very bad.
    Can someone help me?
    b:surrender
  • XDarcHeartX - Harshlands
    XDarcHeartX - Harshlands Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    I haven't been killed by a cleric so no clue.. The responses are very nice though best of luck to you.