MY Psychic build

vladimr17
vladimr17 Posts: 2 Arc User
edited May 2011 in Psychic
My Psychic build is working MARVELLOUSLY. I did my stats randomly until I had 20 dexterity (for crit rate), then I put just enough strength in for gear. Then its 4 magic and 1 vitality per level. I have yet to die even PvP. My suggestions to new Psychics is that you follow my build.
If you are coming from another character and know the game you can still inflict Massive damage. So good luck to you, and "Good Grinding ahead of you." as my first in-game teacher once said.b:bye b:bye
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  • Derressh - Dreamweaver
    Derressh - Dreamweaver Posts: 806 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Y'know, I was going to put some long, drawn-out explanation as to why this build isn't that good. But instead I'll just say this:

    "Too many stat points better used in magic"
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    I main a 97 Psy named /\bra. The forums don't like his name.
    So I post on my Barb.
    [On possibly-permanent hiatus]
  • I_Snipe - Lost City
    I_Snipe - Lost City Posts: 451 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    The only reason why you would stat dex is if you're going Light Armor. Thus, increasing your Crit Rate and Physical Resistance, but you are losing out on VALUABLE Magic Attack and Magic Defense. It's 1% Crit per 20 Dex, so you just wasted 20 points for 1% Crit which can be easily replaced by a cheap [< 1m] Christmas Tome.

    You might want to restat 17 Dex into Mag.
  • ThanosQRC - Dreamweaver
    ThanosQRC - Dreamweaver Posts: 100 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    The only reason why you would stat dex is if you're going Light Armor. Thus, increasing your Crit Rate and Physical Resistance, but you are losing out on VALUABLE Magic Attack and Magic Defense. It's 1% Crit per 20 Dex, so you just wasted 17 points for 1% Crit which can be easily replaced by a cheap [< 1m] Christmas Tome.

    You might want to restat 17 Dex into Mag.

    there is a arcane dex4crit build that sacrifices mag just to get 1% crit
    i think it's better than LA but pure mag is the best imho at least for pve. for pvp maybe some vit will be good

    @OP: everyone has a certain playstyle and it should be reflected in his build.
    after all this is a game and a crit-lover will have more fun with that +1% crit
    however this is a reason that no build should be suggested as the optimum build..

    moreover, the majority thinks that a pure mag build is the optimum and putting points in dex is a waste. I find a bit disturbing that you suggest that everyone should follow a build that even it's description is flawed. random stats till you get 20 dex? if i roll a dice to decide my stats' distribution I might end up 105 with all my points in strength...

    I suggest defining your build a bit better and justifying why it works better in some situations than the pure arcane which is the more important.
    main: psy94
    how about having fun instead of expecting the worse?b:thanks
  • Born_Free - Harshlands
    Born_Free - Harshlands Posts: 977 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    OBJECTION!

    Objection.jpg

    This argument is one sided!
    Observe! Hybrid Psychic build!


    2010-08-2919-24-22.jpg
    Top: Not refined
    Bottoms: +2
    Shoes: Not Refined
    Soulsphere: +1
    Necklace: Not refined
    Belt: Not refined
    Ring 1: +3
    Ring 2: Not refined
    Headgear: Not refined
    Sleeves: Not refined

    100% non-cashshopped.

    From level 1-30:
    3 mag, 1 vit, 1 dex

    WHEN at 30 Dex:
    3 Mag, 2 Vit

    75 Str--> For endgame gear. Once you hit 75...you should stop. I plan on getting HH gold once I hit 80. I believe Archangel's gear costs 75 str.

    ----DAMAGE LOG----
    2010-08-2914-51-47.jpg

    This was me in a BH squad vs. Glutt, with no pots, just doublesparks and a cleric. These damages were recorded while I WASN'T sparking.

    Of course, I had Jones's Blessing on, and Black Voodoo.

    On average, I'm hitting about 5~6k on mobs, and (ALMOST) 1k on players above my level. (I've yet to PvP in a while, and hardly alone, so I haven't tested on players my own level yet.)

    WITHOUT Jones's Blessing, I hit about 4~5k on mobs. I haven't done PvP against players without it in a long time.

    The build for hybrid does work if you understand the class. Your gear has to compensate for a lot of your Magic flaws. (Snowdance robe boosts my Magic by a ton, as well as the +3 Meteor Ring I have.) But it does work. At 30 dex, your crit rate is slightly better than average. Add a +crit item, and you'd be surprised what you can smack on a mob or player.

    My name is Born_Free, and I approve this build!
  • ThanosQRC - Dreamweaver
    ThanosQRC - Dreamweaver Posts: 100 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    WHEN at 30 Dex:
    3 Mag, 2 Vit

    i thought that you get +1% crit every 20 dex
    i guess you are planning to get 10 dex from equipment

    according to pwidatabse you need 54 str for archangel
    however, why planning ahead? personally i toss everything in magic (of course for another build you would put them in vit/dex) and level up strength only when i need it for my new equipment. I do keep some points spare just in case.

    btw, do you plan to get a crit or mag tome?
    main: psy94
    how about having fun instead of expecting the worse?b:thanks
  • Derressh - Dreamweaver
    Derressh - Dreamweaver Posts: 806 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    2010-08-2919-24-22.jpg
    Top: Not refined
    Bottoms: +2
    Shoes: Not Refined
    Soulsphere: +1
    Necklace: Not refined
    Belt: Not refined
    Ring 1: +3
    Ring 2: Not refined
    Headgear: Not refined
    Sleeves: Not refined

    I have nothing refined except my Sphere +2, and around your level I had 1k more magic attack, a 4% crit rate from equips, a couple hundred more HP, ~300 more pdef and ~1k more mdef with a 50 base vit build uncashed.

    Oh, and endgame gear only costs around 5x str iirc.

    The hybrid build might work, but it's not as effective.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    I main a 97 Psy named /\bra. The forums don't like his name.
    So I post on my Barb.
    [On possibly-permanent hiatus]
  • ThanosQRC - Dreamweaver
    ThanosQRC - Dreamweaver Posts: 100 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    I have nothing refined except my Sphere +2, and around your level I had 1k more magic attack, a 4% crit rate from equips, a couple hundred more HP, ~300 more pdef and ~1k more mdef with a 50 base vit build uncashed.

    Oh, and endgame gear only costs around 5x str iirc.

    The hybrid build might work, but it's not as effective.


    just saying that Born_Free is using tt60 so, unless you were using it too, the different weapon should be considered.

    unfortunately i cannot recall how much damage i did at 7x [mag build, ~10 points in vit]
    main: psy94
    how about having fun instead of expecting the worse?b:thanks
  • Derressh - Dreamweaver
    Derressh - Dreamweaver Posts: 806 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    just saying that Born_Free is using tt60 so, unless you were using it too, the different weapon should be considered.

    unfortunately i cannot recall how much damage i did at 7x [mag build, ~10 points in vit]

    Was using the WT69 sphere, so it's about the equivalent of her upgrading to TT70.

    And how can you tell it's TT60? The 60 and 70 spheres have the same pic. O.o
    Do they glow differently?

    Just mostly saying that the extra dex is kind of pointless if you're not going to pump enough for LA, and all the extra stats are killing her magic damage and not really boosting her survivability that much.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    I main a 97 Psy named /\bra. The forums don't like his name.
    So I post on my Barb.
    [On possibly-permanent hiatus]
  • Hypnos - Raging Tide
    Hypnos - Raging Tide Posts: 1,235 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Archangel gears need 54 STR, unless you want a heavy helm...
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • ThanosQRC - Dreamweaver
    ThanosQRC - Dreamweaver Posts: 100 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    And how can you tell it's TT60? The 60 and 70 spheres have the same pic. O.o
    Do they glow differently?

    oops, my fault
    i never used tt70 (tt60->74mold) so when i see that sphere i think it's tt60 XD

    btw I do believe (and plan to prove) that you get more dps from 17 points in mag instead of dex (-> 1% crit)

    hi hypnos. i made some experiments a while ago about the attack level with the new blessing and they didnt quite confirm the 1.01^(attack level) theory:/
    however, they were a bit messy so I should repeat them.
    have you noticed anything?
    main: psy94
    how about having fun instead of expecting the worse?b:thanks
  • SSarmento - Raging Tide
    SSarmento - Raging Tide Posts: 80 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Why the ** ppl have the job to post a ridiculous thread about "hey, you should follow my build blah blah blah".

    A psys that waste points at dex = uber fail!
    You migh considering yourself rerroll a sin or archer!

    Forget about getting dex with gear, wtf! b:angry

    Nao you need to buy reset note and give money to pwi!

    Uber Gratz!
  • I_Snipe - Lost City
    I_Snipe - Lost City Posts: 451 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    2010-08-2919-24-22.jpg

    75 Str--> For endgame gear. Once you hit 75...you should stop. I plan on getting HH gold once I hit 80. I believe Archangel's gear costs 75 str.

    Why? As everyone stated, 20 Dex = 1% Crit, and TT99 requires 54 Strength. You have 30 total points you could've used elsewhere.
    according to pwidatabse you need 54 str for archangel
    however, why planning ahead?

    it's good to plan ahead, but usually not 20+ levels ahead.
  • ThanosQRC - Dreamweaver
    ThanosQRC - Dreamweaver Posts: 100 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    it's good to plan ahead, but usually not 20+ levels ahead.

    i should have phrased that differently:
    why distributing points to meet requirements of equipment you cannot use because of your level XD
    main: psy94
    how about having fun instead of expecting the worse?b:thanks
  • Ellantria - Heavens Tear
    Ellantria - Heavens Tear Posts: 129 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    OBJECTION!

    Objection.jpg

    This argument is one sided!
    Observe! Hybrid Psychic build!


    2010-08-2919-24-22.jpg
    Top: Not refined
    Bottoms: +2
    Shoes: Not Refined
    Soulsphere: +1
    Necklace: Not refined
    Belt: Not refined
    Ring 1: +3
    Ring 2: Not refined
    Headgear: Not refined
    Sleeves: Not refined

    100% non-cashshopped.

    From level 1-30:
    3 mag, 1 vit, 1 dex

    WHEN at 30 Dex:
    3 Mag, 2 Vit

    75 Str--> For endgame gear. Once you hit 75...you should stop. I plan on getting HH gold once I hit 80. I believe Archangel's gear costs 75 str.

    ----DAMAGE LOG----
    2010-08-2914-51-47.jpg

    This was me in a BH squad vs. Glutt, with no pots, just doublesparks and a cleric. These damages were recorded while I WASN'T sparking.

    Of course, I had Jones's Blessing on, and Black Voodoo.

    On average, I'm hitting about 5~6k on mobs, and (ALMOST) 1k on players above my level. (I've yet to PvP in a while, and hardly alone, so I haven't tested on players my own level yet.)

    WITHOUT Jones's Blessing, I hit about 4~5k on mobs. I haven't done PvP against players without it in a long time.

    The build for hybrid does work if you understand the class. Your gear has to compensate for a lot of your Magic flaws. (Snowdance robe boosts my Magic by a ton, as well as the +3 Meteor Ring I have.) But it does work. At 30 dex, your crit rate is slightly better than average. Add a +crit item, and you'd be surprised what you can smack on a mob or player.

    My name is Born_Free, and I approve this build!


    OBJECT BACK!

    As a full mag psy, with only +1-+2 gear with good shards...

    I beat out your survivability and damage. :/

    http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr60/Saint-Attila/2010-08-3014-51-11.jpg

    As you can see, with +1-+2 gear, only about 4 flawless garnets and the rest flawless citrines...I have 500 more HP than you as well as 300 more pdef. Not to mention the extra 1k mag def and the 5k magic attack.

    And a quickie damage log I put together in my BH to 79 event today. None of the damage was with EP, nor sparks, nor any damage boost debuff.

    http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr60/Saint-Attila/2010-08-3017-05-09.jpg

    :/ Going hybrid really just hurts you more than it helps.
    ┐('~`;)┌
  • IVIrJasper - Heavens Tear
    IVIrJasper - Heavens Tear Posts: 80 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    +1 I have never seen a hybrid build in this game that has ever trumped anyones pure.. except fist/axe bms.. they own face
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] I SHALL SMASH YOUR SKULL LIKE A CLAM ON MY TUMMY!
  • Kawailele - Sanctuary
    Kawailele - Sanctuary Posts: 58 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    lol i m not a rich psy but the build is good because i have 20 dex i want to put on my picks to show u but i dont no how so tell me how so i can show u my state and gear b:pleasedb:cute
    what comes up must come down what goes in must come out! b:chuckle b:surprisedb:mischievous
  • Febuary - Harshlands
    Febuary - Harshlands Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Born here, too lazy to change char.

    I OBJECT TO YOUR OBJECTING MY OBJECTION.......OBJECTIVELY!

    v.v I....totally.....forgot 90 gold only took 54 Str. I was under the impression while planning this character I would be in the mood to do Nirvana's once I got there...of course, playing a Psychic in Nirvana and playing cleric are two totally different things, and with the new "updates" on TT 3-x I don't think even 90 green is going to be simple anymore. I was planning to get 90 gold on this character (the Psychic) but with everything that's going on, that's not really possible anymore unless you CS...which I don't.

    The Dexterity is mostly for evasion purposes, and also for a little crit boost. It's not for LA, because that is a HUGE waste of time for a Psychic. (Kinda like, lol, the HA build, which made me laugh.)

    SO, I did an update on my character plan, which I haven't done since I was like...level 20 and quitting my cleric on HT.

    --Endgame Stats--
    EQUIPPED: Acrobatic Robe, Bottoms, Shoes, Sleeves (refined, +5)
    Top: Immac Cit shard x2
    Bottoms: Immac Garnet x2
    Shoes: Immac Cit x2
    Sleeves: Immac Cit x2


    Mantle of the Ghost Lord: +4 refined
    Ring of Starry Night: +4 refined
    Ghostly Hat of Infinate Power: +4 refined
    Puzzle Cube: Vain-- +4 refined
    Emerald Meteor: (because I couldn't bear to sell it,) +7 refined
    Belt of Sacred Ground: +5 refined
    Tome: A Poet's Musings (Magic +15)

    ~~STATS~~ (with Equipped gear)
    HP total: 5022
    MP total: 9686
    Mag Attack: 7652-9049
    Crit:+3% (without a crit tome, OR crit gear. ftw.)
    PDef: 2718 (attacks reduced by 40%)
    Magical Def-- 68% for all elemental dmgs.

    VIT: 154
    MAG: 408
    STR: 82
    DEX: 37



    ....and for the record, it is a TT 70 sphere. I'm too lazy to spam for a BH/WT and then sponsor wines. (Too many people are so paranoid of BH mobs, I have to buy wines, which can get expensive, which in the end, isn't really worth doing IMO.) Also, I have....average shards equipped, and only on my top and bottom. (And there's only two on each.) I have *A* flawless Sapphire shard on my Sphere, and it's one I purchased myself. That's it. I'm too cheap to spend my cash on shards when it's not endgame gear.

    I'm planning to buy *A* reset note to place back down to 52 STR, and place the rest in everything else as I see fit. I am NOT going to stop building hybrid, because I believe at endgame, it can and will work.

    NOW, if I cash shop to 90, my endgame gear would be double gem'd. Two Cit gems, two Garnet gems, etc. But I'm not a CSer.
    I'm going to proove in endgame, Hybrid build works. It can, it does. I've tanked serveral bosses above my level with only a cleric. (qed: Emprythean Slither, Nightspike Bloodguard, Ape Dryad, BH 51 bosses, etc.) When I get to endgame through the grueling hours of BH/FC/TT, I'll be sure to post again...could take a while, but I'm willing to prove you can still kick *** as a hybrid non-Cser.
  • ThanosQRC - Dreamweaver
    ThanosQRC - Dreamweaver Posts: 100 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    I guess that you want something like this Kawailele http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/ :)

    well, if you have 37 dex put 3 more to get +2% crit from that...
    consider buying the equipment already sharded/refined, it is usually cheaper
    Your pdef is kinda low

    Emerald meteor is a really nice ring, I used it until ~90 but then there are better rings. And they are way cheaper that starry night
    i guess that you want the Ring of Starry Night for the +30% evasion but honestly, evasion is kinda useless. first of all it does not affect magic. secondly, your evasion will be too low for archers/sins and even bms. After all there are +50% accuracy rings that many barbs use

    I think you should take the perfect attendance ring http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/22488
    It will boost your magic attack more, get +3% crit (so you will have 6%crit) and 80hp is good. And of course... it's free XD

    For the second ring, double attendance is not bad imho although it will take a while. OHT rings can have really nice stats, and since you are following this build you can get a ring with dex for nothing (on the other hand it might be difficult to find someone that sells one xD). Of course, other stats are nice too xD

    About refining the rings: i think it's a bit of waste. you only get some mdef. instead of refining the rings I would refine my weapon more (dont forget that you get a lot of soulforce from the weapon) or get some higher grade gems (garnet/citrine)

    I like the cube neck, attack levels ftw XD I wish I could get it myself someday, gl :3

    About the bh wines... honestly, 69 sucks. 40k sounds reasonable, you can make those by plain grinding in the 1/4 of the time the bh would take otherwise
    main: psy94
    how about having fun instead of expecting the worse?b:thanks
  • Hypnos - Raging Tide
    Hypnos - Raging Tide Posts: 1,235 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    I have to say, evasion in this game is useless pass 80, BM and Barb, they both got 2xmisty at that lvl...the chance they miss you is just as low as the chance they miss a pure magic or vit build. With eva gears on,, you can never reach the evasion of sin and archer or even LA veno, which BM and Barb and sin and archer have no problems hitting them. The class gain most evasion via dex is also not psychic so from my opinion, psychic are not meant to focus on evasion .

    The difference between +1% and +3% crit chance...well....32 stats for 3% crit (which I highly doubt, the Ring of Starry Night give 2% crit no? you should have 4% crit...) is not exactly wise tbh, I find myself agree with Thanos when he saying "why not waste another 3 stats for another crit" => give you 5% crit in total.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • I_Snipe - Lost City
    I_Snipe - Lost City Posts: 451 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    --Endgame Stats--
    EQUIPPED: Acrobatic Robe, Bottoms, Shoes, Sleeves (refined, +5)
    Top: Immac Cit shard x2
    Bottoms: Immac Garnet x2
    Shoes: Immac Cit x2
    Sleeves: Immac Cit x2


    Mantle of the Ghost Lord: +4 refined
    Ring of Starry Night: +4 refined
    Ghostly Hat of Infinate Power: +4 refined
    Puzzle Cube: Vain-- +4 refined
    Emerald Meteor: (because I couldn't bear to sell it,) +7 refined
    Belt of Sacred Ground: +5 refined
    Tome: A Poet's Musings (Magic +15)

    ~~STATS~~ (with Equipped gear)
    HP total: 5022
    MP total: 9686
    Mag Attack: 7652-9049
    Crit:+3% (without a crit tome, OR crit gear. ftw.)
    PDef: 2718 (attacks reduced by 40%)
    Magical Def-- 68% for all elemental dmgs.

    VIT: 154
    MAG: 408
    STR: 82
    DEX: 37

    where are you getting your numbers from? what weapon did you use? did you shard your cape/helm? did you have buffs?

    [pwcalc turns tideborns into blademasters when the char is saved so ignore the class]

    because my numbers are way off [unbuffed]. i had to +10 the weapon in order to reach 7k~9k mAtk. [pwcalc does not have TT green weapons]
    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=f444e05d15eeff05

    Here's a better budget build, unbuffed [not using TT99 armor since you are unwilling to farm it]
    i used the cost of the cube neck to "purchase" warsoul helm and CV ring.
    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=9b54e2a8a7a01284

    as you can see, my build has:
    +more crit with no dex
    +900 more pDef
    +1500 more mAtk [if i +10 my weapon]
    +more channeling [i'll DD faster, not that we don't already]

    -100 less mDef
    -400 less HP

    Even against BM's with 2k Evasion and Assassins/Archers with 3~4k Evasion, my archer rarely misses them. So what does that say about 500 Evasion?

    you can build your character however you like, i'm just showing there are better builds with similar/better results.
  • ThanosQRC - Dreamweaver
    ThanosQRC - Dreamweaver Posts: 100 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    where are you getting your numbers from? what weapon did you use? did you shard your cape/helm? did you have buffs?

    [pwcalc turns tideborns into blademasters when the char is saved so ignore the class]

    because my numbers are way off [unbuffed]. i had to +10 the weapon in order to reach 7k~9k mAtk. [pwcalc does not have TT green weapons]
    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=f444e05d15eeff05

    Here's a better budget build, unbuffed [not using TT99 armor since you are unwilling to farm it]
    i used the cost of the cube neck to "purchase" warsoul helm and CV ring.
    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=9b54e2a8a7a01284

    as you can see, my build has:
    +more crit with no dex
    +900 more pDef you used 6 more pdef shards so it's more like +600pdef
    +1500 more mAtk [if i +10 my weapon]
    +more channeling [i'll DD faster, not that we don't already]

    -100 less mDef
    -400 less HP

    Even against BM's with 2k Evasion and Assassins/Archers with 3~4k Evasion, my archer rarely misses them. So what does that say about 500 Evasion?

    (btw you didnt shard the weapons)
    you can build your character however you like, i'm just showing there are better builds with similar/better results.

    I agree
    main: psy94
    how about having fun instead of expecting the worse?b:thanks
  • I_Snipe - Lost City
    I_Snipe - Lost City Posts: 451 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    (btw you didnt shard the weapons)

    ah yes i did miss that. but i still dont know which weapon she used exactly in her build.

    +600 pDef is still nice though. :]
  • ThanosQRC - Dreamweaver
    ThanosQRC - Dreamweaver Posts: 100 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    ah yes i did miss that. but i still dont know which weapon she used exactly in her build.

    +600 pDef is still nice though. :]

    yeah, of course. definitely better than 400hp and 100mdef
    main: psy94
    how about having fun instead of expecting the worse?b:thanks
  • setantasrose
    setantasrose Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    I think in my endgame build I used the Acoustic Soulloutus (90 gold, methinks, can't remember.) I'm almost positive I sharded that with x2 Immac Saph and then refined +7. (Because w/o CSing, getting to 5 is difficult unless you saved up stones from previous quests.)

    Helm was sharded double immac Garnet, pretty sure. I'm going to stick 3 more DEX in for the hell of it, because I like the sound of 5% at endgame...all the rest goes VIT/MAG for the most part. (2 Vit, 3 Mag) I'd rather not hit as hard and survive than be a glass cannon. NOT being one has managed to save my *** on several BH's/PK wars/TT's/TW's.

    >.> And yeah....my Pdef is horrible...but that's what the shards are there for.
    I did the total calculations, and all of the shards should cost me 48 mil in coins, and only $50 if I decide to cheat, which I don't plan to.

    I look to HL endgame Psychics like Longknife and thunder_fist for my particular build, with some added tweaks here and there. I know thunder_fist is a pure MAG, and he usually 1 shots most things before they even get to him. But if he gets hit from behind, he's usually dead in about two or three hits with a melee class around his level. The same generally goes with Longknife. Hypnos's guide was nice, but those particular builds don't work so great when you're being ganked by two Bm's. You could AoE, but it wouldn't do much, and usually before you can, you're dead. Soul of Retaliation would only protect you for so long, and soul of vengence will eat up your mana, and won't kill your attackers very quickly.

    My focus on this build is survivability. It's true while 40 Dex isn't going to save me from most archers or BM's or even Assassins, I've had this knack on this character in particular for getting a "MISS" right when I need it. It's not exactly fantastic to rely on it, but I've found myself unusually lucky.

    I do like the build though Thanos, and in exchange for the puzzle cube, warsoul doesn't sound like too terrible to invest into. It's not so much I don't want to farm 99gold anymore as it is that it's become almost impossible anymore without a great squad. The 600 Pdef sounds like something to look into, but I'm still going to continue with this 'experiment'.

    I'll put another update on this once I hit 90...I'm planning to tag along with my fiance on a few FC's with faction with a couple of exp boosters. (not hypers. they're impossible to buy here on HL...people are so cheep here.)
    Boom-shakalaka!
  • Posisese - Sanctuary
    Posisese - Sanctuary Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    ----DAMAGE LOG----
    2010-08-2914-51-47.jpg

    I see the client-side nude hackb:shocked
  • Born_Free - Harshlands
    Born_Free - Harshlands Posts: 977 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    *facepalm* My bikini matches my skin color, it's not a ****.....
  • Kelvyn - Lost City
    Kelvyn - Lost City Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    lol....but you need Strength to For Weapon ...lol :)
  • dream2die
    dream2die Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    those particular builds don't work so great when you're being ganked by two Bm's. You could AoE, but it wouldn't do much, and usually before you can, you're dead. Soul of Retaliation would only protect you for so long, and soul of vengence will eat up your mana, and won't kill your attackers very quickly.

    With that playing style no build is going to help you when 2 BM's attack you unless you got 30k+ soulforce and seal them. We got Psychic will to help against physical classes either you cast that before they hit you 3 times or drop dead, no matter vit build/pure mag/any other build. I love duelling bm's, achers and even won against sins being a pure magic build. Key is to kill them before psychic will runs out and being pure magic helps a lot there.

    -Critrate is nice, but not controllable. Not critting at the right moment could allow a mob to catch up with you and do damage, while with consistent higher damage the mob wouldn't even get close.Unlike sins we haven't got a perm crit glitch.
    -Evasion is arguably nice at lower levels, but even with the debuff from sandburst blast it's of no use against dex builds at higher levels. an archer with 200 dex has an accuracy of 1600 a psy with 300 dex (yes not going to happen) has 600 evasion. Q.E.D.

    To sum it up: For survivability you'll need high enough soulforce and thus refines which will also give you enough hp for high level instances.
  • Father_gold - Sanctuary
    Father_gold - Sanctuary Posts: 449 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    i think the problem here is that people want to make an uncommon build for the sole reason of being....uncommon.

    hypnos' guide was very informative, i didnt take it as the status quo though; i tailored it to my play style. psy's are made for belting out damage, so why nerf yourself? that 1% crit rate u get for lowering your overall damage is quite pointless to me and i wouldn't even call it a true hybrid build. to me LA is the hybrid build for psys, if you are going to stat other than mag, at least stat it to good effect.

    PVE wise, you wont be stealing aggro much, but you also can't survive the more end-game instances imho. the push back and stuns don't work as often in say(among other places)... delta than they do in bh79. the point of the matter is you should be putting down mobs in less than 5 hits, and your soulforce should be appropriate enough for soulburn to work effectively. i find i am using my DOT's and bleed skills far more often than not while in squads with +10 refine barbs and BM's who can lose aggro in the pause between sparking (which i hardly do) and changing weapons. this is apparent if you do delta/gamma, a single crit in an attack macro can give u aggro for one hit, and that one hit will kill you.

    the only not-so-hybrid build i find effective at ALL levels is the somewhat vit build. i did 70-80 vit during my 60-85's, in order to stay AA and not die so quick in places like bh69 and TT. i noticed once i was doing FCC at 85 that i wasn't in need of the extra HP and that if i did 300-500 more damage each hit, the pulls would be dead one skill earlier. at 95 with a few luckily obtained gears (cube neck and warsong belt) i could withstand most of the pulls attention with even less vit, basically its exactly as ppl like hypnos and thanos have been saying: you have to be able to put them down before they notice you.

    now to counter any objections based on my semi-cs-ness, the necklace can be replaced by skydemon's pearl(which i had until i got the necklace) for the most part, and i was wearing a (double +5vit 3*) protection belt till lvl 96 when i got the belt. not much difference besides the beneift of having extra vit and reifine value, but still a decent alternative.

    i still think the dex is a mistake unless you're gonna fully utilize stating dex, and the part about the evasion.... yeah well i'll just be polite and say that amount of dex won't get you anywhere; with mobs or players. the crit you are getting is ****, and the evasion is too weak to matter(i'm not sure when evasion really mattered to begin with though, for anyone other than an archer or sin).