RB Delta Wave 3

It sounds like you could really use some help here. Teaching a barb delta is the most difficult since every other class ppl can see what you are doing and give advice.
What I think could work for you if you are having big problems is to do a run where you are 2 barbs both on vent. The more experienced barb could do the pulling and you could run alongside him while he explain what he does.

First off 3-3 doesnt stun but sometimes a few mobs from 3-4 comes in the 3-3 wave. If you start run out there on 3-3 and get stunned its too late to use the vacuity powder due to the cooldown so either dont use vac on 3-3 or use it real early right when you start run out to the mobs. That way the vac will be available when you face 3-4.

3-4 I usually run out use vac as early as I can so it will be ready sooner for 3-5, invoke and maybe wait a few for the slow mobs to catch up. I use alpha male cause it has a better range. run back to the setup (run a little behind the BB so the mobs comes into the aoe) sunder frigthen roar and what else.

3-5 before you run out for 3-5 have the bm alpha male so you dont have mobs follow you. My vac usually still need a few seconds before I can use it here. 3-5 have mobs that can seal you which means you cant invoke so what I do is just before I meet the mobs I invoke, after I run/gets stunned then I use vac when its ready (it brings you out of stun too), wait a few secs to mobs to come alpha male and run back.

I like that whoever plays the veno role, to go and get the boss, goes out before me in the end of the 3-4 wave and stand in a safe place. that way they can safely pic off the boss if you havent aggroed all the mobs. Sometimes some of the mobs are dragging to far behind and you cant wait for them or your vac will run out=dead barb.

There are many different ways to pull. I remember I was once told to pull a different way by a lvl 102 bm which resulted in me dying and i just went back to doing what worked for me.

But try this out or have another barb teach you its really not to hard once you get the hang of it.

hope this helps a little.

Thats some pretty good advice and solid info from Dangerfield.

Only thing i do slightly different from him is on wave 3-4 I sometimes use vacuity holly path to round em up and wait to use invoke till I get back to squad. Only reason for this is sometimes the cleric doesnt use genie skill or vacuity to stop getting stuned/sleep and I like to have invoke available with a roar till BB can get back up.

Just an added thought.

Things that you can use:

Invoke

Dew of Star Protection

Vacuity Powder

Solid Shield

Magic Defense Charms (made with Perfect Stones)

Crabmeats

HP pots and Pink pots (have different timeouts)

Save the vacuities for 3-4 and 3-5, turtle w/invoke first, and while you're invoked and stunned, pound on the Vac pwdr until it fires, then bring em in.

Bring all those things with you, and with some planning you'll do fine.

RedMenace

\not all are needed, but for safety's sake - bring whatever you can
\\pay no attention to the Testosterone brigade, who insist all you need is a lvl 10 HP pot and a do-nut

79 skill does prevent stun but its only 10 secs which is kinda meh.. for pulling a wave + you have to go human to use it. I guess you can use it before running out on 3-5 and then use vac when its ready. If you use it on the earlier waves and then is forced to use a vac also, it will **** the timing with vac for the next wave. I use it sometimes on easier waves like 1-3 and the earlier waves on 9th stage.

Also I think sirrobert is right about vac cause I sometimes have to click it a few times when im stunned.

VlLKASS - Sanctuary wrote: »

General.:
Don't try to gather full waves, take how much you comfortable with & your hp allows you. You won't fail if you leave a few mobs to come into zhen by themselves.

This.

In my 90s doing full Delta runs, I would somtimes have the same problems the OP has with waves 3-4 and 3-5. It wasn't until I hit 100 that I figured out this trick on my own, typically due to not being charmed for BH Delta.

I always thought the 3-3 wave had sorcerers that did some stunning. So I've been using up 3 vacs on stage 3 when it takes only 2 qq.

Anyway since i thought the 3-3 sorcerers stunned, I would go stand outside of BB and when I tabbed and got a target on the first sorcerer coming, then I would use the 79 skill and drop to tiger form, invoke, then vac. Do my aoe sunder and roar and head back to BB before vac wears off.

Using that timing pattern allowed me to have the 79 skill for 3-4 and then the vac would come off cool-down right about when the untamed wrath expired. So 3-4 was like 79 skill, then leave BB, switch tiger, invoke, and vac is ready, sunder, roar return to zhen and 3-5 rinse, repeat.

We usually always survive the 3d stage, it's only the 9th stage where my teams normally fail and it's very depressing to get to the boss wave on 9th stage and everyone starts dying and going 1k.