OHT daggers

Gregery - Harshlands
Gregery - Harshlands Posts: 7 Arc User
edited August 2010 in Assassin
hey all any1 know if the GMs will make old hevens tear daggers?
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  • Rice_hero - Lost City
    Rice_hero - Lost City Posts: 140 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    So far there is no information/rumors about them so for now there won't be any....
  • I_Snipe - Lost City
    I_Snipe - Lost City Posts: 451 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    they'll put it in...eventually.

    btw, Tideborns look awesome in OHT gear.
  • Typhyse - Sanctuary
    Typhyse - Sanctuary Posts: 3,469 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Something I greatly look forward to.
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  • StretchIt - Harshlands
    StretchIt - Harshlands Posts: 327 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    w/e i would kill for zerk daggers right about now
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  • Olba - Sanctuary
    Olba - Sanctuary Posts: 1,776 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    StretchIt - Harshlands wrote: »
    w/e i would kill for zerk daggers right about now

    Oh, just three more levels and you, too, get to try your luck on them Nirvana daggers. That's gonna be awesome when you get Sacrificial Strike, +HP and +Magic. And then you spent seven quintillion Raptures rerolling, until you get God of Frenzy, -0.05 Interval and some +dex. Have fun.

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  • Sneakret - Heavens Tear
    Sneakret - Heavens Tear Posts: 618 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Strongly doubt it as the Tideborn do not fit into the games original story line for OHT.

    If anything there would be something separate made as a compensation in a different area.

    By compensation I'm also including the non-stated example of here's a 20% dq price cut so here's some permanent +30 attack level charms if you go make a facebook and do something outside of the game in order to win at playing the game.

    Or you get no daggers, but here's 3rd spark back in stealth... oh wait that one sounds too much like a QQ getter b:chuckle
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  • Twsted - Raging Tide
    Twsted - Raging Tide Posts: 135 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Sneakret - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Strongly doubt it as the Tideborn do not fit into the games original story line for OHT.

    If anything there would be something separate made as a compensation in a different area.

    By compensation I'm also including the non-stated example of here's a 20% dq price cut so here's some permanent +30 attack level charms if you go make a facebook and do something outside of the game in order to win at playing the game.

    Or you get no daggers, but here's 3rd spark back in stealth... oh wait that one sounds too much like a QQ getter b:chuckle

    this game has a storyline? b:shocked
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  • Sirrobert - Dreamweaver
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,395 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Twsted - Raging Tide wrote: »
    this game has a storyline? b:shocked

    Actually the past storyline is pritty damn nice, and verry well thought through. It came from back when the devs still cared
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  • NightHavoc - Heavens Tear
    NightHavoc - Heavens Tear Posts: 69 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Olba - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Oh, just three more levels and you, too, get to try your luck on them Nirvana daggers. That's gonna be awesome when you get Sacrificial Strike, +HP and +Magic. And then you spent seven quintillion Raptures rerolling, until you get God of Frenzy, -0.05 Interval and some +dex. Have fun.

    b:cute

    Cant wait for the Nirvana Daggers!
  • Typhyse - Sanctuary
    Typhyse - Sanctuary Posts: 3,469 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    NightHavoc - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Cant wait for the Nirvana Daggers!

    That low in lvl and you have your sights on Nirvana already? Not even interested in Hook and Thorn?
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  • StretchIt - Harshlands
    StretchIt - Harshlands Posts: 327 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    loll Hook and Thorn are terrible, just low damage overall :(
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  • Okeano - Harshlands
    Okeano - Harshlands Posts: 4,943 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    StretchIt - Harshlands wrote: »
    loll Hook and Thorn are terrible, just low damage overall :(

    H&T are not too far behind TT99 in terms of damage. Even at both +7'ed and having the same shards, TT80 still out DPS TT99, with just a couple of interval gears. The gap increases more with more interval gears involved, as 0.05 second at higher attack speed is bigger % gap than at lower speed.

    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=8c91681dc3bab0cc (80 mold changed to match H&T's stats)
    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=97477b587d6be975

    In the 2 links, the DPS for H&T, is
    (3432+4367)/2*(1.67)=6512

    while DPS for TT99 with same refine and shards is
    (3650+4778)/2 *(1.54) = 6489.

    Ignoring the crit difference on the build with H&T because these are incomplete gears and the 13 DEX might not add extra crit with other DEX from gears.

    TT99 naturally wins in DPH, but it's only by 8%. Consider it's 2 grades higher and both refined at avearage refine amount of +7, that's not too much difference for daggers costing 10 times as much.

    Another benefit of H&T is that you can add second socket for pretty cheap, while G12 takes 2k socket stones. So the more likely comparison of those 2 daggers in game are actually 2 gems on TT80 vs one on TT99.

    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=8c91681dc3bab0cc
    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=409a63b5a84257cb

    With one shard short, the DHP of TT99 only wins by 4.5%. This number gets smaller with higher grade shards.

    Why am I still using TT80 at 99? They are sooo much cheaper and not too much worse by comparison in price.

    I'll need TT99 later for recast, but ATM, H&T does ok and money is better spent else where in terms of improvement per coin.
  • Evict - Heavens Tear
    Evict - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,301 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    And then I use Tackling Slash from 2.00 range further than H&T and tick your charm until you die.
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  • Okeano - Harshlands
    Okeano - Harshlands Posts: 4,943 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Evict - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    And then I use Tackling Slash from 2.00 range further than H&T and tick your charm until you die.

    I'm not saying TT99 is not better, just that the damage on H&T is not as bad as she or most people think.
  • Kayllan - Harshlands
    Kayllan - Harshlands Posts: 19 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    true, I will use H&T for a long time, it is a good dagger with cheap price, and how I can't buy all items interval, H&T help me much.
  • Typhyse - Sanctuary
    Typhyse - Sanctuary Posts: 3,469 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Evict - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    And then I use Tackling Slash from 2.00 range further than H&T and tick your charm until you die.

    I know, I HATE TS's looong rangeb:infuriated
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  • Tudordan - Dreamweaver
    Tudordan - Dreamweaver Posts: 123 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Typhyse - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I know, I HATE TS's looong rangeb:infuriated

    How can you hate it?TS + RDS + Spark + Inner Harmony + HH + Puncture Wound + Rib Strike + auto attack [if some skill missed]=dead mobs b:laugh
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  • Typhyse - Sanctuary
    Typhyse - Sanctuary Posts: 3,469 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    I love TS, but I hate that I have run closer to auto after using it.
    Tudordan - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    TS + RDS + Spark + Inner Harmony + HH + Puncture Wound + Rib Strike + auto attack


    WTF? That's a PvP combo. Use that in PvE and you'd be waiting a whole minute or two between mobs.
    TS - Spark - RDS - auto (substitute IH for RDS if it is still in cooldown)
    ...wait a sec wait a sec wait a sec...-facepalm- I'm mixing up TS and RS...still, they have the same range.
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  • Olba - Sanctuary
    Olba - Sanctuary Posts: 1,776 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Tudordan - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    How can you hate it?TS + RDS + Spark + Inner Harmony + HH + Puncture Wound + Rib Strike + auto attack [if some skill missed]=dead mobs b:laugh

    If you have mobs that can take all of that without dying before you get to the "auto attack" part, you're doing something wrong.

    Bosses, on the other hand, are a different story. Then again, when fighting bosses, you should already have 2 sparks, in which case you'd be more likely to go:
    Rib Strike -> Spark -> Auto -> RDS -> Spark -> Auto -> IH -> Spark -> Auto

    And also, using Rib Strike that late kinda makes it useless. Same with Puncture Wound, since it's a DoT.

    And really, using HH on normal mobs? That's quite overkill.
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  • Typhyse - Sanctuary
    Typhyse - Sanctuary Posts: 3,469 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Olba - Sanctuary wrote: »
    And really, using HH on normal mobs? That's quite overkill.
    Overkill: no.
    Waste of 2 sparks: yes; better spent on sparkburst.

    BTW, this is getting offtopic
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