Forest Ruins needs a second Re-vamp
Renza - Raging Tide
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and i go about it with this:
lowbies: how exactly are they ment to participate in this? granted lvling is fast, but unless ur 80+ with a charm, or have a **** load of hp event pots or a skill to continusly heal ur self (such as me being a cleric), its impossible, theres some areas that is packed full of mobs that either slow u, or increase speed that comes with them damaging u, then theres also some paths that whilst just running through, u recieve damage over time, that will most likely kill them anyway unless they have a charm and enough hp to withstand it for 10 seconds
unlike the previous forest ruins, non of these were an issue, every1 cud participate, which is why it was great.
poorly programed mobs (again): so leme get this straight, this has happened to me on more then one occasion, some1 agrod a mob and died whilst were trying to run through an area, the mob kills the person, it then goes immune and resets, but while reseting it gets a target on me, so whilst going back to the position or after its back, it comes straight for me and kills me anyway, even when im about 20 meters away.
edit: id like to add ive seen on multiple occasions, even twice on my self, while the mob goes on its patrol route and me or some1 else walks out cos its out the way, the odd time its went backwards and inst agrod us and killed, no idea how or why that happens.
the fires that u walk into: well these shud just be permantly removed, they dont make it anymore harder then it already is, there just *in the way* to be a pain in the ****, i got just about to the final area, and apparantly i steped in the fire, i no for a fact i wasnt even vaguly near it, i was about 6 meters away, i went passed a fire, stoped at a wall, 2 seconds later i happened to die from the fire targeting me,
it also effects slightly laggy ppl with pings like 400ms such as my self, lets say i run forward, then take a left, to the game i wudnt of ran completly forward and turned left, i wud of ran slightly diagnoly *as if to short cut my original path* and end up dead to these stupid fires. (this was a problem when ppl also did the horse race, u wud miss some laps cos the game doesnt recognise all ur movements due to ping)
anyway, i like to do events, but not events where its been made practicly impossible due to the games own stupid mechanics, if it was based totaly on skill and patience, i wud be able to get to where i last was, but the amount of problems in here, by far keep me from getting anywhere near to the end, on the last forest ruins, i was able to do it with sheer patience and *skill* unlike this, either way ill keep trying on this, and fail, i already gave up on this last week on the last 30-40 mins, and im never usualy a person to give up on things easy b:sweat
lowbies: how exactly are they ment to participate in this? granted lvling is fast, but unless ur 80+ with a charm, or have a **** load of hp event pots or a skill to continusly heal ur self (such as me being a cleric), its impossible, theres some areas that is packed full of mobs that either slow u, or increase speed that comes with them damaging u, then theres also some paths that whilst just running through, u recieve damage over time, that will most likely kill them anyway unless they have a charm and enough hp to withstand it for 10 seconds
unlike the previous forest ruins, non of these were an issue, every1 cud participate, which is why it was great.
poorly programed mobs (again): so leme get this straight, this has happened to me on more then one occasion, some1 agrod a mob and died whilst were trying to run through an area, the mob kills the person, it then goes immune and resets, but while reseting it gets a target on me, so whilst going back to the position or after its back, it comes straight for me and kills me anyway, even when im about 20 meters away.
edit: id like to add ive seen on multiple occasions, even twice on my self, while the mob goes on its patrol route and me or some1 else walks out cos its out the way, the odd time its went backwards and inst agrod us and killed, no idea how or why that happens.
the fires that u walk into: well these shud just be permantly removed, they dont make it anymore harder then it already is, there just *in the way* to be a pain in the ****, i got just about to the final area, and apparantly i steped in the fire, i no for a fact i wasnt even vaguly near it, i was about 6 meters away, i went passed a fire, stoped at a wall, 2 seconds later i happened to die from the fire targeting me,
it also effects slightly laggy ppl with pings like 400ms such as my self, lets say i run forward, then take a left, to the game i wudnt of ran completly forward and turned left, i wud of ran slightly diagnoly *as if to short cut my original path* and end up dead to these stupid fires. (this was a problem when ppl also did the horse race, u wud miss some laps cos the game doesnt recognise all ur movements due to ping)
anyway, i like to do events, but not events where its been made practicly impossible due to the games own stupid mechanics, if it was based totaly on skill and patience, i wud be able to get to where i last was, but the amount of problems in here, by far keep me from getting anywhere near to the end, on the last forest ruins, i was able to do it with sheer patience and *skill* unlike this, either way ill keep trying on this, and fail, i already gave up on this last week on the last 30-40 mins, and im never usualy a person to give up on things easy b:sweat
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"Kantorek: we hope to see the economy in PWI come back "down to earth" if you will."
*One week later*
"Frankieraye: Lucky Corals and Platinum Charms are going to be in the Boutique indefinitely."
*few months later, PWI puts rank8/9 into the CS insanely cheap, raising gold 1mill+*
"Kantorek: we hope to see the economy in PWI come back "down to earth" if you will."
*One week later*
"Frankieraye: Lucky Corals and Platinum Charms are going to be in the Boutique indefinitely."
*few months later, PWI puts rank8/9 into the CS insanely cheap, raising gold 1mill+*
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Renza - Raging Tide wrote: »and i go about it with this:
lowbies: how exactly are they ment to participate in this? granted lvling is fast, but unless ur 80+ with a charm, or have a **** load of hp event pots or a skill to continusly heal ur self (such as me being a cleric), its impossible, theres some areas that is packed full of mobs that either slow u, or increase speed that comes with them damaging u, then theres also some paths that whilst just running through, u recieve damage over time, that will most likely kill them anyway unless they have a charm and enough hp to withstand it for 10 seconds
unlike the previous forest ruins, non of these were an issue, every1 cud participate, which is why it was great.
poorly programed mobs (again): so leme get this straight, this has happened to me on more then one occasion, some1 agrod a mob and died whilst were trying to run through an area, the mob kills the person, it then goes immune and resets, but while reseting it gets a target on me, so whilst going back to the position or after its back, it comes straight for me and kills me anyway, even when im about 20 meters away.
edit: id like to add ive seen on multiple occasions, even twice on my self, while the mob goes on its patrol route and me or some1 else walks out cos its out the way, the odd time its went backwards and inst agrod us and killed, no idea how or why that happens.
the fires that u walk into: well these shud just be permantly removed, they dont make it anymore harder then it already is, there just *in the way* to be a pain in the ****, i got just about to the final area, and apparantly i steped in the fire, i no for a fact i wasnt even vaguly near it, i was about 6 meters away, i went passed a fire, stoped at a wall, 2 seconds later i happened to die from the fire targeting me,
it also effects slightly laggy ppl with pings like 400ms such as my self, lets say i run forward, then take a left, to the game i wudnt of ran completly forward and turned left, i wud of ran slightly diagnoly *as if to short cut my original path* and end up dead to these stupid fires. (this was a problem when ppl also did the horse race, u wud miss some laps cos the game doesnt recognise all ur movements due to ping)
anyway, i like to do events, but not events where its been made practicly impossible due to the games own stupid mechanics, if it was based totaly on skill and patience, i wud be able to get to where i last was, but the amount of problems in here, by far keep me from getting anywhere near to the end, on the last forest ruins, i was able to do it with sheer patience and *skill* unlike this, either way ill keep trying on this, and fail, i already gave up on this last week on the last 30-40 mins, and im never usualy a person to give up on things easy b:sweat
Lowbies: Wasn't the person who won it on some server a 7x Veno?
Mobs: I don't know about this much, but that can pretty much happen with all mobs in general, not just in the ruins.
Fires: They're annoying. I don't think they should be removed altogether, but some should be taken out. Rubberbanding is a huge issue with these, but of course, fixing rubberbanding probably won't ever happen.
However, in my own experience, 400ms ping is pretty much my normal amount. I don't speed much due to rubberbanding, and it was okay for me. I died 3 times last time cause I only went on 3 tries and got 3/4 through each time.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
my ping goes above 10k when i tried doing the event twice it would be nice imo if they made forest ruins like the fb/bhs instances where its just you or if your in a sqaud its just you & your sqaud in the room not a **** ton of other stupid peopleCollector of pet eggs, armor, weapons, fashion, and mountsb:chuckle0
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I think the difficulty is about where it should be. I've never made it into the swamp area yet, but it's difficult and challenging. Not everyone is supposed to complete it every day.I post in forums. This one and others. That's why I post.0
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Maiya - Lost City wrote: »Lowbies: Wasn't the person who won it on some server a 7x Veno?
Mobs: I don't know about this much, but that can pretty much happen with all mobs in general, not just in the ruins.
Fires: They're annoying. I don't think they should be removed altogether, but some should be taken out. Rubberbanding is a huge issue with these, but of course, fixing rubberbanding probably won't ever happen.
However, in my own experience, 400ms ping is pretty much my normal amount. I don't speed much due to rubberbanding, and it was okay for me. I died 3 times last time cause I only went on 3 tries and got 3/4 through each time.
Watched your videos Maiya, awesome job ^^
That place reminds me of a longer, more drawn out version of room 38.
Looks like fun b:chuckle I'll have to try it.0 -
Mraochan - Lost City wrote: »Watched your videos Maiya, awesome job ^^
That place reminds me of a longer, more drawn out version of room 38.
Looks like fun b:chuckle I'll have to try it.
I hope you're not charmed. b:surrenderI post in forums. This one and others. That's why I post.0 -
lol so i carried on as i said, then i get to a bit where i thought i cud succeed, there was 1 bit like the bit on the screenshot with the flame, except u had a tiny bit more area to move,
so i get to here, run to the side of the wall as u can see, i then holy path forward, rubber band backwards somehow ending up in the middle of the path instead of the side and died anyway,
even if i diddnt rubberband, how on earth do u get past that, i shud add that it moves very slightly left to right so it has it covered, they didnt half make it as freakishly hard as possible x_x[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
"Kantorek: we hope to see the economy in PWI come back "down to earth" if you will."
*One week later*
"Frankieraye: Lucky Corals and Platinum Charms are going to be in the Boutique indefinitely."
*few months later, PWI puts rank8/9 into the CS insanely cheap, raising gold 1mill+*0 -
I agree with the title... it needs to be made harder! No I am not joking, I beat it 3 times today. Once you get the patterns down it is a joke. I would love something that takes weeks to get good enough to finish.~~Blood Red since 30~~0
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Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »I hope you're not charmed. b:surrender
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this cannot be emphasized enough b:surrender0 -
Made a little bit more progress this week, got by the Magical Stairway but unfortunately not much further.
I felt I would consistently gotten farther each time if there were less lag / rubber banding as there were a couple of times I got killed by fire traps but felt I was far enough away from them.
Can't really give a balanced opinion regarding if it needs to be tweaked or not as I haven't gotten to the end or seen all areas.
My gut feeling however from what I have seen, it is probably one of the most fair events in PWI. Gear is a much smaller factor compared to others and so it's more about the player (and their internet connection) when it comes to beating it.
I don't know what all the prizes are on offer in Jungle Ruins but this week I managed to gain 2 event gold which is always nice.
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Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »I hope you're not charmed. b:surrender
The only reason I ever get one is to pass room 47, so if you see me with one... ><
But why not charmed? It will get chewed up quick?0 -
Mraochan - Lost City wrote: »The only reason I ever get one is to pass room 47, so if you see me with one... ><
But why not charmed? It will get chewed up quick?
Most things that kill you will be a 1-shot, so it ticks for your full hp and does nothing to keep you alive.
The areas it does help aren't very numerous.0 -
Shadowfire - Dreamweaver wrote: »Most things that kill you will be a 1-shot, so it ticks for your full hp and does nothing to keep you alive.
The areas it does help aren't very numerous.
Ah, yes, I remember reading that now, makes sense. Thank you ^^0 -
Well, I'm getting better at it now. Got a few Event Gold already.
And, also, leg isn't an issue. The status says somethig about ~150-200 Smooth or 0k. And only 3 Gb RAM allows me to not get slower inside there.
It's just that most people just rush as crazy, and pull mobs averywere, not letting them follow their programed pattern. At least at the first part. Almost at the middle of the way, those ppl usually cant get there, so it's getting easier.
Just those bugs are the problem. =o.O=[insert sig here]0 -
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Renza - Raging Tide wrote: »
lol so i carried on as i said, then i get to a bit where i thought i cud succeed, there was 1 bit like the bit on the screenshot with the flame, except u had a tiny bit more area to move,
so i get to here, run to the side of the wall as u can see, i then holy path forward, rubber band backwards somehow ending up in the middle of the path instead of the side and died anyway,
even if i diddnt rubberband, how on earth do u get past that, i shud add that it moves very slightly left to right so it has it covered, they didnt half make it as freakishly hard as possible x_x
funny thing is... i died the same genral area, i was soo happy to finish until somehow i got killed0 -
And their classes. Perfectly understandable the OP is pissed, clerics are one of the worst at this event. And of course the favorite class of the devs is highly effective with skills to avoid being 1-shot and to get 1 damage sometimes (not to mention sprinting and immunity to stuns/paralyze/whatever).Chillum - Dreamweaver wrote: »Gear is a much smaller factor compared to others and so it's more about the player (and their internet connection) when it comes to beating it.
I finished it but was too late because first time I foolishly died at the last room... so got 4th place. Reward? Just 600k+ exp. It blows.0 -
Rubberbanding/lag - PW certainly isn't going to do anything about it. Best you can do is spend more money on your pc/connection.
Levels - It's only for fun for the lower levels. They can't actually craft any of the ornaments till 80-90 (level 6 craftsman is required at least iirc).0 -
Identical - Lost City wrote: »
Gratz ^^0 -
Borsuc - Raging Tide wrote: »I finished it but was too late because first time I foolishly died at the last room... so got 4th place. Reward? Just 600k+ exp. It blows.
If you hadn't died the reward would have been better. You win, yet you still QQ. Figures.
b:byeI post in forums. This one and others. That's why I post.0 -
Renza - Raging Tide wrote: »and i go about it with this:
lowbies: how exactly are they ment to participate in this? granted lvling is fast, but unless ur 80+ with a charm, or have a **** load of hp event pots or a skill to continusly heal ur self (such as me being a cleric), its impossible, theres some areas that is packed full of mobs that either slow u, or increase speed that comes with them damaging u, then theres also some paths that whilst just running through, u recieve damage over time, that will most likely kill them anyway unless they have a charm and enough hp to withstand it for 10 seconds
unlike the previous forest ruins, non of these were an issue, every1 cud participate, which is why it was great.
poorly programed mobs (again): so leme get this straight, this has happened to me on more then one occasion, some1 agrod a mob and died whilst were trying to run through an area, the mob kills the person, it then goes immune and resets, but while reseting it gets a target on me, so whilst going back to the position or after its back, it comes straight for me and kills me anyway, even when im about 20 meters away.
edit: id like to add ive seen on multiple occasions, even twice on my self, while the mob goes on its patrol route and me or some1 else walks out cos its out the way, the odd time its went backwards and inst agrod us and killed, no idea how or why that happens.
the fires that u walk into: well these shud just be permantly removed, they dont make it anymore harder then it already is, there just *in the way* to be a pain in the ****, i got just about to the final area, and apparantly i steped in the fire, i no for a fact i wasnt even vaguly near it, i was about 6 meters away, i went passed a fire, stoped at a wall, 2 seconds later i happened to die from the fire targeting me,
it also effects slightly laggy ppl with pings like 400ms such as my self, lets say i run forward, then take a left, to the game i wudnt of ran completly forward and turned left, i wud of ran slightly diagnoly *as if to short cut my original path* and end up dead to these stupid fires. (this was a problem when ppl also did the horse race, u wud miss some laps cos the game doesnt recognise all ur movements due to ping)
anyway, i like to do events, but not events where its been made practicly impossible due to the games own stupid mechanics, if it was based totaly on skill and patience, i wud be able to get to where i last was, but the amount of problems in here, by far keep me from getting anywhere near to the end, on the last forest ruins, i was able to do it with sheer patience and *skill* unlike this, either way ill keep trying on this, and fail, i already gave up on this last week on the last 30-40 mins, and im never usualy a person to give up on things easy b:sweat
I think that may have been the problem.
QQmoar pl0x?0 -
MistaBwanden - Sanctuary wrote: »I think that may have been the problem.
QQmoar pl0x?
Sir, u fail, id say maby 50% of the community suffer from an average ping of that, not every1 is in america, gtfo kindly.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
"Kantorek: we hope to see the economy in PWI come back "down to earth" if you will."
*One week later*
"Frankieraye: Lucky Corals and Platinum Charms are going to be in the Boutique indefinitely."
*few months later, PWI puts rank8/9 into the CS insanely cheap, raising gold 1mill+*0 -
I think the fires are ok. They just need to place a visual aid to see its range like the fire trap from the faces or the explosive cactus.
Oh, and don't go charmed. That stupid rat race burned my almost brand new silver charm in no time.Sliding we go, only fear on our side. To the edge of the wire and we rush with the tide.
Although I'm still alive, pray to God I survive
How long on this longest day, 'til we finally make it through.
- June 6, 1944. The day earth stood still.
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Oh god no you people need to quit making these threads >.<
I'm a wiz and I have veryyy low hp, 3.3k unbuffed, and I make it thru fine without a charm or crab meat. I just use normal lvl 60 hp pots you can buy from the apoth. Granted I have a heal, but it's very slow channeling and doesnt help if i get ganked by more than 3 burning bugs.
And you shouldn't be trying to tank all the burning bugs anyway, you let tankier people run in front of you and they very nicely take the hits for you :P
I also live in Australia, so I get a ping of about 350-400 too, and I've never had a problem with lagging into the fire traps. It's possible it's just your computer, not server lag.Semi-retired due to continuing mind boggling displays of stupidity from PWI0 -
No I'm "QQing" about the fact that only top 3 people get good rewards, the rest blows. Sure it's a competition, but seriously, something more than just **** exp would've been nice ffs for everyone else.Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »If you hadn't died the reward would have been better. You win, yet you still QQ. Figures.
b:bye
Figures if I finished first the 3rd person (who was) would've been 4th and I would've felt sorry for him/her getting only **** exp.0 -
The event is good in difficulty except I hate the freaking burning bugs. Sheesh dammit either reduce their aggro following range or make them not damage you it's so bloody annoying to pass a room and wait for next one while a burning bug shoots at me constantly... waste of crab meat b:angryFirst 103 on Raging Tide 30 Oct 2010
Quit.0 -
pls dont revamp till i get a chance to go in there once xD[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]lagunal8.deviantart.com
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Asheera - Raging Tide wrote: »The event is good in difficulty except I hate the freaking burning bugs. Sheesh dammit either reduce their aggro following range or make them not damage you it's so bloody annoying to pass a room and wait for next one while a burning bug shoots at me constantly... waste of crab meat b:angry
TBH you should use them to your advantage cause they speed buff you after 5 attacks. I used this to get past the glacials so i could get into ice room0
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