Things you don't want to hear a high level say (all classes).

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MageMERC - Harshlands wrote: »

...slightly off topic, but because so many veno's dont play well.....ALL VENO'S READ MY THREAD "I DONT WANNA BE A FAIL VENO' then you wont find yourself the subject of this thread. (thread discusses actually using skills besides pet)

Venomancers have other skills than Heal pet?

Damewort - Sanctuary wrote: »

Venomancers have other skills than Heal pet?

Yes, they have Revive Pet and their Teleport to town skill.

Damewort - Sanctuary wrote: »

Venomancers have other skills than Heal pet?

Yes we do indeed. The other skill is called Summer Spirit; it's a self-buff that reduces the time between pet-heal sessions.

Pretty much anyone: "hypers in boutique agent are the best thing since sliced bread"

Wizzy: drop BB and rez that archer, i will heal the tank (true story, on 1-3 drummer DURING AOE)

this was about 10 levels ago for me.

high 8x arcane wiz who had just been killed by ofotis "why werent you healing me"

me "I was healing you you were taking damage too fast"

him "you should be able to keep up"

me "why didnt you move when you stole aggro in melee range"

him "I can tank him in melee"

wispers from one of his faction member who was in squad to other faction members (the dominant tw faction) "this guy is such an idiot"

"Guy who sold me the account never said anything about having to level up skills..."

in an fcc many many lvls ago had a barb that kept wanting me to run ahead of him(thru lots of mobs) and set up bb before he got there.

SaintToadElf is right, this should be stickied as a lesson/reminder for us all.

IN Wraithgate, barb tanking, one cleric in party..

Barb:Everybody ready?
(all):Yes

*lured pole*
barb burns a charm, party wipes

Cleric:Sorry had to walk the dog
Cleric:Whoa what happened??

Cleric has left the squad.

Didn't read all of the comments , but. I play realistic war games - something like Paint Ball and stuff , was in the army also. So in PvP : If you took the gun out - don't talk , SHOOT!

First of all, I'd like to say that this is a very imformative thread.

Secondly... and this is just my observation from what I've seen of people's behavior towards one another... there seems to be very little patience and understanding.

Over the course of my nearly 2 years of playing this game, I've met many different types. Those that rush to level and those that like to take their time. Some enjoy playing with others while some do not. I know of many players who achieve level 80+ on npc, drop single *, quest gear alone. Those are the ones that impress me the most. Pretty much anyone can kill and level easily on superb gear.

As far as barbs go, not all barbs have the coins to put into the best gear or get all their skills... and yes, it is possible for a barb to get to 70+ without knowing which skills to aquire. I have seen that many times. One reason I also see for this is that instead of helping him/her along by teaching them in a equal manner... the barb is often given condescending remarks like 'fail', 'noob', 'idiot', etc... and these barbs are often the focus of a complete squad. I often hear now of people complaining in WC about the lack of barbs for whatever it is that they are doing.. FC, BH, Bosses, RB, etc. Well, if everyone would take the small time it takes to teach these 'fail' barbs, then there wouldn't be a shortage of tanks. I have healed a 65 barb with less than 6k hp fully buffed in tiger form at Kong with my cleric... just the two of us... successfully without a close call at all. So everyone blaming the fail barb is more of an excuse for their own failures. There are others like Krimson that I wouldn't try that with, but the point is to teach these fail barbs instead of just condemning them outright.

Clerics, they are the focus of any squad... but yet again, up until some bosses like Kong, Krimson, Jewels, Pole... most don't realise that they need to Purify the tank because before then, there really isn't any use for it. When I first started playing over a year ago, most people were relatively new to the game also. Factions and people's attitudes towards one another were very different then... everyone learned together. There were rarely any factions that require and application, interview, or level 85+ only please. So, you have new players that come into the game and rush to level to meet these requirements... and they do so without actually learning very much. What I've also seen from both new and old players... the new ones will rely on the older higher levels to just pwn everything for them... and the older ones will do so in a rush, boom dead, move on. New players don't learn anything that way... especially clerics that don't need to puri or heal a level 100+ barb at Kong at all... and they don't realise that they need to with a lower level tank.

All DD's... yes, most know what agro is. They tend to disregard it. It is like a game to them to see if they can take agro from the barb... and when they do.. the barb's a failure. Barb's on skill alone without superb gear will not be able to keep agro from a DD of the same level going all out. DD's do need to learn how to control agro and hold back just enough... and they need to understand that if they do gain agro, it is no big deal.. step back, hit a pot... give the tank a little time to gain enough agro again before stepping back in. Sure, it might take a little longer to kill the boss/mob, but it's still faster than a near party wipe because the DD's think it's a contest. It is a team sport in a way... everyone gains from it.

Yes, I do have a barb, cleric, archer, bm also... all over 86+.

I have almost 10 yrs experience with MMO's starting with Everquest 1... I've also played WoW for over a year and for those that came from that game, no disrespect, but it doesn't really teach a lot about grinding, teamwork or agro... just seems like one big gankfest... and this is just my opinion from my own observations.

What I do like about PWI is that with some classes like bm's, for example, are mostly very flexible. You can build it for your own purposes... whether you want a pure dex DD, or a fast leveling aoe grinder... or even somewhat of a semi-tank. No, I don't consider a level 100 bm with +12 gear going up against Gouf as 'tanking'.

All in all, a little more patience and understanding towards some of the newer or poorer players would benefit all of us... instead of just putting them down all the time. We have a wide range of players here from the casual ones to the hardcore days on end ones. Keep in mind that everyone is a person first with real life responsibilites also... not everyone is able to spend the money or the time to be the best.

So, next time you meet up with a fail barb, cleric, archer, etc... do a good deed, help him/her out a little.

Thank you for your time.

Enaj - Dreamweaver wrote: »

First of all, I'd like to say that this is a very imformative thread.

Secondly... and this is just my observation from what I've seen of people's behavior towards one another... there seems to be very little patience and understanding.

Over the course of my nearly 2 years of playing this game, I've met many different types. Those that rush to level and those that like to take their time. Some enjoy playing with others while some do not. I know of many players who achieve level 80+ on npc, drop single *, quest gear alone. Those are the ones that impress me the most. Pretty much anyone can kill and level easily on superb gear.

As far as barbs go, not all barbs have the coins to put into the best gear or get all their skills... and yes, it is possible for a barb to get to 70+ without knowing which skills to aquire. I have seen that many times. One reason I also see for this is that instead of helping him/her along by teaching them in a equal manner... the barb is often given condescending remarks like 'fail', 'noob', 'idiot', etc... and these barbs are often the focus of a complete squad. I often hear now of people complaining in WC about the lack of barbs for whatever it is that they are doing.. FC, BH, Bosses, RB, etc. Well, if everyone would take the small time it takes to teach these 'fail' barbs, then there wouldn't be a shortage of tanks. I have healed a 65 barb with less than 6k hp fully buffed in tiger form at Kong with my cleric... just the two of us... successfully without a close call at all. So everyone blaming the fail barb is more of an excuse for their own failures. There are others like Krimson that I wouldn't try that with, but the point is to teach these fail barbs instead of just condemning them outright.

Clerics, they are the focus of any squad... but yet again, up until some bosses like Kong, Krimson, Jewels, Pole... most don't realise that they need to Purify the tank because before then, there really isn't any use for it. When I first started playing over a year ago, most people were relatively new to the game also. Factions and people's attitudes towards one another were very different then... everyone learned together. There were rarely any factions that require and application, interview, or level 85+ only please. So, you have new players that come into the game and rush to level to meet these requirements... and they do so without actually learning very much. What I've also seen from both new and old players... the new ones will rely on the older higher levels to just pwn everything for them... and the older ones will do so in a rush, boom dead, move on. New players don't learn anything that way... especially clerics that don't need to puri or heal a level 100+ barb at Kong at all... and they don't realise that they need to with a lower level tank.

All DD's... yes, most know what agro is. They tend to disregard it. It is like a game to them to see if they can take agro from the barb... and when they do.. the barb's a failure. Barb's on skill alone without superb gear will not be able to keep agro from a DD of the same level going all out. DD's do need to learn how to control agro and hold back just enough... and they need to understand that if they do gain agro, it is no big deal.. step back, hit a pot... give the tank a little time to gain enough agro again before stepping back in. Sure, it might take a little longer to kill the boss/mob, but it's still faster than a near party wipe because the DD's think it's a contest. It is a team sport in a way... everyone gains from it.

Yes, I do have a barb, cleric, archer, bm also... all over 86+.

I have almost 10 yrs experience with MMO's starting with Everquest 1... I've also played WoW for over a year and for those that came from that game, no disrespect, but it doesn't really teach a lot about grinding, teamwork or agro... just seems like one big gankfest... and this is just my opinion from my own observations.

What I do like about PWI is that with some classes like bm's, for example, are mostly very flexible. You can build it for your own purposes... whether you want a pure dex DD, or a fast leveling aoe grinder... or even somewhat of a semi-tank. No, I don't consider a level 100 bm with +12 gear going up against Gouf as 'tanking'.

All in all, a little more patience and understanding towards some of the newer or poorer players would benefit all of us... instead of just putting them down all the time. We have a wide range of players here from the casual ones to the hardcore days on end ones. Keep in mind that everyone is a person first with real life responsibilites also... not everyone is able to spend the money or the time to be the best.

So, next time you meet up with a fail barb, cleric, archer, etc... do a good deed, help him/her out a little.

Thank you for your time.

very good i agree with all of this i my self help the so called fail people from time to time most of them listen but some times you get the nuckle heads lol ive even sayed what you sayed to the people in my faction tht instead of calling them fail or noob try to help them under stand if they are willing to learnb:victory & becus of this my faction is very helpful to one another & to othersb:pleased

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