Is Sages are too MP heavy?

Ivadek - Raging Tide
Ivadek - Raging Tide Posts: 14 Arc User
edited August 2010 in Assassin
Hi guys im thinking about sages.cuz everyone say that demon is 5APS sage is 4 but if a sage spent his/her coins on interval gear like demons do then the mp run out in 1-5skills.is it worth to get mp regen stuffs instead of interval gear?or can i have both?
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  • Okeano - Harshlands
    Okeano - Harshlands Posts: 4,943 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Umm what? You can get 5 APS as demon and sage as well but just need genie skill, but demon =/= automatic 5 APS. It's just cheaper to achieve as demon.

    "but if a sage spent his/her coins on interval gear like demons do then the mp run out in 1-5skills"

    Uhhh what >_>? Ok, here's the break down. Sage Chill and mastery gives sage a slight edge for spamming skills, but your MP usage has nothing to do with your cultivation. A sage can get interval gears and auto attack or a demon can choose to put on CoD and skill spam...
  • Olba - Sanctuary
    Olba - Sanctuary Posts: 1,776 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    I have no intetion of being a skill-spammer and I'm pretty much set on going Sage. Mainly because of BP, Wolf Emblem and the spark.
    If you disregard what I say because of who I am or because of the contents of what I said, you are a fool.

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  • CornHilario - Heavens Tear
    CornHilario - Heavens Tear Posts: 647 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    my only regret in going demon is not getting the skill spamming power of sage spark.

    i can do that with demon spark, but that sorta makes the +25% atk. speed go to waste...


    i don't like wasting things :(
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  • NightHavoc - Heavens Tear
    NightHavoc - Heavens Tear Posts: 69 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Okeano - Harshlands wrote: »
    Umm what? You can get 5 APS as demon and sage as well but just need genie skill, but demon =/= automatic 5 APS. It's just cheaper to achieve as demon.

    "but if a sage spent his/her coins on interval gear like demons do then the mp run out in 1-5skills"

    Uhhh what >_>? Ok, here's the break down. Sage Chill and mastery gives sage a slight edge for spamming skills, but your MP usage has nothing to do with your cultivation. A sage can get interval gears and auto attack or a demon can choose to put on CoD and skill spam...
    PEOPLE!
    Relentless Courage Gives 5% Extra attack rate
    Each 4 str add up 4%
    OH YEAH! Infliction time b:cool
    At 90 with Proper LP U will achieve numbers higher than a demon right ;)
    And U get to use all Sage Sin skills b:bye
  • Okeano - Harshlands
    Okeano - Harshlands Posts: 4,943 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    CornHilario - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    my only regret in going demon is not getting the skill spamming power of sage spark.

    i can do that with demon spark, but that sorta makes the +25% atk. speed go to waste...


    i don't like wasting things :(

    Why would you want to skill spam if you are demon sparking? You'll be doing more damage auto attacking and saving MP so really nothing's wasted.

    NightHavoc - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    PEOPLE!
    Relentless Courage Gives 5% Extra attack rate
    Each 4 str add up 4%
    OH YEAH! Infliction time b:cool
    At 90 with Proper LP U will achieve numbers higher than a demon right ;)
    And U get to use all Sage Sin skills b:bye
    You can, occasionally. A pure STR geine takes quite a long time to recharge.
  • Ivadek - Raging Tide
    Ivadek - Raging Tide Posts: 14 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    But the question was is the sages are too mp heavy or not.
    Demons wont waste mp cuz they uses normnal attacks and kill target in 1-3sec.But can a sage doing his job infinitely likie demons or sometimes have to rest to get mp back?
  • Okeano - Harshlands
    Okeano - Harshlands Posts: 4,943 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Ivadek - Raging Tide wrote: »
    But the question was is the sages are too mp heavy or not.
    Demons wont waste mp cuz they uses normnal attacks and kill target in 1-3sec.But can a sage doing his job infinitely likie demons or sometimes have to rest to get mp back?

    And why can't you use normal attack as sage? Demon sins don't just go around and demon spark on every mob we see.
  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Ivadek - Raging Tide wrote: »
    But the question was is the sages are too mp heavy or not.
    Demons wont waste mp cuz they uses normnal attacks and kill target in 1-3sec.But can a sage doing his job infinitely likie demons or sometimes have to rest to get mp back?

    sages tend to try to -one shot thing-
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze
  • Olba - Sanctuary
    Olba - Sanctuary Posts: 1,776 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Ivadek - Raging Tide wrote: »
    But the question was is the sages are too mp heavy or not.
    Demons wont waste mp cuz they uses normnal attacks and kill target in 1-3sec.But can a sage doing his job infinitely likie demons or sometimes have to rest to get mp back?

    Um... Sages don't exactly have to use skills, you know. The only reason for Demons NOT to use skills is because of their Spark. Doesn't mean that Sages HAVE to use skills.
    Okeano - Harshlands wrote: »
    And why can't you use normal attack as sage? Demon sins don't just go around and demon spark on every mob we see.

    My guess? He's drooling at maxed IH, RDS and Tackling Slash.

    Really, I don't see much of a point in sparking in normal combat. Really, the only reason I sparked with my Archer while grinding was because I usually grind in sets of exactly 30 minutes.

    And btw, I'm still gonna go Sage and mostly normal attack things. Because it's still going to be much better than my Archer, even without considering the sparks. And the idea of a permanent Wolf Emblem is epic. Also, higher base DPH coupled with Sage Bloodpaint is going to be epic.
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  • Typhyse - Sanctuary
    Typhyse - Sanctuary Posts: 3,469 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    You may not be able to be the king of PvP, but 4 APS as a Sage still sounds pretty epic to me...especially that I only have one piece of -int gear.b:surrender
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  • NightHavoc - Heavens Tear
    NightHavoc - Heavens Tear Posts: 69 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    sages tend to try to -one shot thing-

    LOL Yes b:chuckleb:chuckle
    Sage is't Really Mp eating U rib strike ..Spam a DD skill and with ur interverance Gear (and 3%Blood Paint )..Let those Mobs gob:shockedb:shocked
    lol
  • Typhyse - Sanctuary
    Typhyse - Sanctuary Posts: 3,469 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Interface gear? LOL, I think you meant interval gearb:chuckle
    ...I don't believe -int gear affects skill speed; that's -channeling gear.
    Demon_Troll: "takes on the appearance of an innocent archer but turns into a mindless idiot once you hear him speak"
    ~Spazz~
  • NightHavoc - Heavens Tear
    NightHavoc - Heavens Tear Posts: 69 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Typhyse - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Interface gear? LOL, I think you meant interval gearb:chuckle
    ...I don't believe -int gear affects skill speed; that's -channeling gear.

    Lol
    Yes it doesn't..Yet Throat cut is a bit boring though >.> lol
  • Typhyse - Sanctuary
    Typhyse - Sanctuary Posts: 3,469 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    NightHavoc - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Lol
    Yes it doesn't..Yet Throat cut is a bit boring though >.> lol

    It really has no purpose, it doesn't even work in PvPb:shocked
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  • NightHavoc - Heavens Tear
    NightHavoc - Heavens Tear Posts: 69 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Typhyse - Sanctuary wrote: »
    It really has no purpose, it doesn't even work in PvPb:shocked

    Stealth(Get a Spark)..Throat Cut..Tackling slash a hit or two if not already dead
    Not That Bad but it really slow
  • Typhyse - Sanctuary
    Typhyse - Sanctuary Posts: 3,469 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Shadow Tele - Dragon Strike - Headhunt - Inner Harmony - double spark - auto attack
    (maybe a Ribstrike in there somewhere)
    This is a PvP combo btw. My PvE combo is Ribstrike - Double Spark - auto attack - finish with Dragon Stirke
    Demon_Troll: "takes on the appearance of an innocent archer but turns into a mindless idiot once you hear him speak"
    ~Spazz~
  • NightHavoc - Heavens Tear
    NightHavoc - Heavens Tear Posts: 69 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Typhyse - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Shadow Tele - Dragon Strike - Headhunt - Inner Harmony - double spark - auto attack
    (maybe a Ribstrike in there somewhere)
    This is a PvP combo btw. My PvE combo is Ribstrike - Double Spark - auto attack - finish with Dragon Stirke
    *points at my Avi*
    still 47 ^^
    Ur PvE combo is really awesome
    And that is one of the stuff I like about sins

    We r chi Generating Machines b:victory
  • Typhyse - Sanctuary
    Typhyse - Sanctuary Posts: 3,469 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Amen, I only wish we had Lending Hand as Venos do, it would make us more useful in squad.b:cry
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  • NightHavoc - Heavens Tear
    NightHavoc - Heavens Tear Posts: 69 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Typhyse - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Amen, I only wish we had Lending Hand as Venos do, it would make us more useful in squad.b:cry

    Leave Veno's Sparks to Barbs Please
  • Okeano - Harshlands
    Okeano - Harshlands Posts: 4,943 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Typhyse - Sanctuary wrote: »
    It really has no purpose, it doesn't even work in PvPb:shocked

    What do you mean it doesn't work? O_o. Anyways... I use Throatcut when my target used anti stun.
  • Typhyse - Sanctuary
    Typhyse - Sanctuary Posts: 3,469 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    I mean whenever I use it in PvP, I have never seen it take any effect, besides damage.
    Demon_Troll: "takes on the appearance of an innocent archer but turns into a mindless idiot once you hear him speak"
    ~Spazz~
  • NightHavoc - Heavens Tear
    NightHavoc - Heavens Tear Posts: 69 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Okeano - Harshlands wrote: »
    What do you mean it doesn't work? O_o. Anyways... I use Throatcut when my target used anti stun.

    Yeah or to Keep Sychos Locked when they use Their will thing
    Ugh I hate that thing

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