Late GM responses to TW changes?

Boogiepanda - Raging Tide
Boogiepanda - Raging Tide Posts: 4,682 Arc User
edited August 2010 in General Discussion
Well I'm kind of interested in what you guys think now. It's been a while since you replied.

Do you think the mirage system is working?
Do you think the drop in gold price is all down to TW?
Do you think the TW pay is substantial?
Do you think that TW is as fun for the players as before?
Are we going to have another pay system soon?
Are you thinking of alternative/old bidding system?

Many thanks

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  • NightRage - Raging Tide
    NightRage - Raging Tide Posts: 1,582 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Game is dead, move along.
  • Boogiepanda - Raging Tide
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide Posts: 4,682 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Then I roll a cleric and level it to 19. Learn revive and cast it on PWI b:victory
    why you here?
  • Olba - Sanctuary
    Olba - Sanctuary Posts: 1,776 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Well I'm kind of interested in what you guys think now. It's been a while since you replied.

    Do you think the mirage system is working?
    Do you think the drop in gold price is all down to TW?
    Do you think the TW pay is substantial?
    Do you think that TW is as fun for the players as before?
    Are we going to have another pay system soon?
    Are you thinking of alternative/old bidding system?

    Many thanks


    1. Of course, it's working as intended.
    2. Yes, that's what we believe.
    3. Yes, we believe that it is substantial unless people are overspending on TWs.
    4. I don't quite understand why the fun factor would be any less now.
    5. Unlikely, since the current system is working wonderfully.
    6. Not really, but we are thinking of adding a minimum bidd starting at 20,000,000/50,000,000/100,000,000 for different level territories.

    Or something.

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  • Ilwyn_ - Dreamweaver
    Ilwyn_ - Dreamweaver Posts: 432 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    1. Yes, it's working out swimmingly!
    2. Of COURSE it is, silly! Haven't you noticed, gold prices went down 5 gold?
    3. Duh! We're like, so totally sure that mirages are better than gold. Keeps all those nasty poor people down where they belong!
    4. Don't you see all those smiling faces?? *psst! The tape is slipping on that one!*
    5. We're seriously thinking about it! After all, can't have the financially strapped people having any fun, eh?
    6. BIDDING IS FUN BIDDING IS FUN MONEY MONEY MONEY WEEEE
  • Cimon - Harshlands
    Cimon - Harshlands Posts: 279 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    the gold hasnt dropped but maby 20 k the pay is dumb mirages are about useless unless for refineing no one is happy and bidding is done either through calculated manuvers made between guild leaders there is no surprises or anyhting game is broken no one will be around soon
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  • Boogiepanda - Raging Tide
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide Posts: 4,682 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Gold =/= coins b:cute
  • ZAPATON - Sanctuary
    ZAPATON - Sanctuary Posts: 875 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Do you think the mirage system is working?
    Why yes it is. Players are happy looking at their reflection on the pretty mirages, which have an illusion cast on them that will make any ugly cow look like a super model. No other goods come from this rewards, as it would be way too much.

    Do you think the drop in gold price is all down to TW?
    Yes of course. TW means The Wallets right? Yep. We got it right.

    Do you think the TW pay is substantial?
    We do indeed. The Wallets pay us a lot of money for doing nothing! Its perfect! Personally I just bought myself a new PC to read the forums and laugh at players QQ at home after daily work at PWE.

    Do you think that TW is as fun for the players as before?
    No. Its even more fun now! They just use The Wallets more and more! Soon I'll be able to buy myself a new car!

    Are we going to have another pay system soon?
    Yes. Soon you'll be able to pay me directly on my bank account and receive a candy for it b:victory

    Are you thinking of alternative/old bidding system?
    No. Thinking gets me stressful, and then I can't do my job and laugh at QQ properly. Sorry b:surrender ... but speaking of thinking... I just got a great idea!!! We'll make it rain PACKS! everywhere! And then for each pack a player picks up, the player will receive a mail charging it $10. That way we don't even have to put them up the cash shop!

    I'm sorry, got to run to suggest my great idea to the chinese devs! See ya! b:bye
    Madness?

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  • crunchycat
    crunchycat Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2010

    Do you think the mirage system is working?

    Yes. It's working to destroy TW quite well.
    Do you think the drop in gold price is all down to TW?
    [/COLOR]

    Of course. Nobody has any reason to trade anymore so there's no market.
    Do you think the TW pay is substantial?
    [/COLOR]

    Yes. It's substantially craptacular!
    Do you think that TW is as fun for the players as before?
    [/COLOR]

    Are you kidding me? Who wouldn't want to spend 3-10 mil a week of their own coin just to get charm *****?
    Are we going to have another pay system soon?[/COLOR]

    We already do. You pay PWE and you get... um... hmmm... how about those Raiders?
    Are you thinking of alternative/old bidding system?
    [/COLOR]

    Why yes! How about a website where we can exchange real cash for random people in China to kick PWI execs in the balls. It can be a daily quest... like crazy stone!
  • Boogiepanda - Raging Tide
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide Posts: 4,682 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Any response from GMs?
  • ZAPATON - Sanctuary
    ZAPATON - Sanctuary Posts: 875 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    crunchycat wrote: »
    How about a website where we can exchange real cash for random people in China to kick PWI execs in the balls. It can be a daily quest... like crazy stone!

    I want that. NOW!!!!!!! b:dirty
    Madness?

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  • foxysmile
    foxysmile Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    I want that. NOW!!!!!!! b:dirty

    I want it too !!
  • KibblesnBitz - Sanctuary
    KibblesnBitz - Sanctuary Posts: 129 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    I don't see how the TW payouts made a huge difference. Split out among all the members per week. Are they so blind as to notice that maybe, just maybe, the Perfect Tokens of BEST Lucks 10million Big Note might be the cause? Kephras stated it. QQ
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  • Boogiepanda - Raging Tide
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide Posts: 4,682 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Kephras stated it. QQ

    And got banned......
  • //Hysteria\ - Sanctuary4
    //Hysteria\ - Sanctuary4 Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    course he got banned, he spoke the truth, apparently, your not allowed to make pwi look worse then they make themselves look
    my post count always stays at 1 b:victory
  • Deceptistar - Sanctuary
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    course he got banned, he spoke the truth, apparently, your not allowed to make pwi look worse then they make themselves look
    he also posted a page big middle finger picture i remember >.> most pple might get banned with that combo
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  • Ilwyn_ - Dreamweaver
    Ilwyn_ - Dreamweaver Posts: 432 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Is he banned forever or temporarily?

    inb4block

    I wonder if they'll lock this for trying to get them to talk or lock it for talking about poor Kephras.
  • FatherTed - Dreamweaver
    FatherTed - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,723 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    he also posted a page big middle finger picture i remember >.> most pple might get banned with that combo

    Convenient how people forget those little details when they want to complain about people getting banned.
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  • frankieraye
    frankieraye Posts: 250 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Well I'm kind of interested in what you guys think now. It's been a while since you replied.

    1. Do you think the mirage system is working?
    2. Do you think the drop in gold price is all down to TW?
    3. Do you think the TW pay is substantial?
    4. Do you think that TW is as fun for the players as before?
    5. Are we going to have another pay system soon?
    6. Are you thinking of alternative/old bidding system?

    Many thanks



    1. To early to tell.

    2. It's one reason, but not the only reason.

    3. Not substantial, but keep in mind that the Medal of Glory is tradeable and should fetch a good price. Also, TW Bid amounts are much lower across the board, which is helping keep guild costs down.

    4. Judging by the majority of the players who've commented in the TW discussion sticky, definitely not.

    5. It wouldn't happen soon, but a change is certainly possible. When drastic changes are implemented in a game, there are often secondary tweaks, so we'll see.

    6. Too soon to come to a definite conclusion on the new bidding system. We won't start thinking about a changing the system up until this happens.
  • Deceptistar - Sanctuary
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    i just noticed FatherTed is sleeping witha nakkid pixie in his sig
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  • FatherTed - Dreamweaver
    FatherTed - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,723 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    The fairy isn't nekkid - it's the lvl 89 sage fairy, they wear the little white dress. Mah fairy mah bestest fwend so we snuggle when I nap.
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  • SilverCleric - Lost City
    SilverCleric - Lost City Posts: 1,969 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Well I'm kind of interested in what you guys think now. It's been a while since you replied.

    Do you think the mirage system is working?
    No... >.<
    Do you think the drop in gold price is all down to TW?
    They will never go down with the packs still in the boutique. b:lipcurl
    Do you think the TW pay is substantial?
    I don't do TW's now but of what I heard it no good. :P
    Do you think that TW is as fun for the players as before?
    No, since you have to pay a ton of money on something that not even worth it.
    Are we going to have another pay system soon?
    I don't think they will do anything about the TW system.
    Are you thinking of alternative/old bidding system?
    If you talking about changing the TW system back to normal, then yes. But most likely that won't happen.

    Many thanks


    Welp, these are my answers but I don't think this thread will make much of a difference since they are not going to do anything about the TW system and how its not ruining the gold prices but its actually the packs fault. b:lipcurl

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  • Lenore - Harshlands
    Lenore - Harshlands Posts: 1,201 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    1. To early to tell.

    2. It's one reason, but not the only reason.

    3. Not substantial, but keep in mind that the Medal of Glory is tradeable and should fetch a good price. Also, TW Bid amounts are much lower across the board, which is helping keep guild costs down.

    4. Judging by the majority of the players who've commented in the TW discussion sticky, definitely not.

    5. It wouldn't happen soon, but a change is certainly possible. When drastic changes are implemented in a game, there are often secondary tweaks, so we'll see.

    6. Too soon to come to a definite conclusion on the new bidding system. We won't start thinking about a changing the system up until this happens.
    Thank you for the information. These are my replies to them...

    1. I seem to recall you saying you need like 2 weeks...which has passed. Maybe my memory is fuzzy from too many different posts. I actually think if you wait too long, even if the results turn out to be unfavorable and you decide to tweak it, it would be too late to keep the players you have lost.

    2. I'd have to disagree with you there, but I think if you've been reading my non-spammy posts you'd already know why I do, so I don't need to elaborate here.

    3. The Medal of Glory is not a good reward, to be honest. It is ONE item, and although it is sell-able, it is still very hard to divide among the 80-160 people a guild has to provide for. It is unreliable also, since the divvying of the coins would depend on how much it could be sold for, which is not a constant.

    4. Glad you're listening to us :)

    5. I would like to see a new pay system that is more rewarding, even if not in coin, but easily divisible among the guild members. As I pointed out earlier, an uber badge is not a reliable reward, and since it is given to the owner of a random land, I imagine a very colorful map might find that unfair. I mean, since that badge would be the primary reward, and say the map is divided among....6 guilds? Only one guild would reap those benefits while the other 5 only get mirages.

    6. The general decline you see in bidding prices is due to the fact that it's not refunded. If you bid 500K and some of it gets refunded, you still lost less money than if you bid 200K in a non-refundable system. I know that is not a direct reply to your #6, but it is a reply to one of your posts in another thread.
  • TheDan - Sanctuary
    TheDan - Sanctuary Posts: 3,495 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    The medal of glory is only a chance for 1 out of 47 lands. And there still isn't a way to divide that across 200 members unless it's sold for coin. No offers at all for this item as you need 3 billion coins to get rank 9 (more expensive than Warsoul).
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  • Siiobhan - Archosaur
    Siiobhan - Archosaur Posts: 51 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    The medal of glory is only a chance for 1 out of 47 lands. And there still isn't a way to divide that across 200 members unless it's sold for coin. No offers at all for this item as you need 3 billion coins to get rank 9 (more expensive than Warsoul).

    Yeah even the guy with Rank 8 on Arch server says he is not even sure he wants rank 9 gear. Our guild got the Medal and get get any offer for it at all.
  • Nahktuul - Archosaur
    Nahktuul - Archosaur Posts: 725 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Quick question here:

    If you are supposed to sell the Rank 9 Medal.....who is going to afford to buy it if you take all the money away from the community?

    Oh! Silly me! By opening more packs, silly Rob! And cashing in those Tokens of Best Lucks to produce 10mil notes! Derrrrrrr.
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  • Boogiepanda - Raging Tide
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide Posts: 4,682 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    1. To early to tell.

    2. It's one reason, but not the only reason.

    3. Not substantial, but keep in mind that the Medal of Glory is tradeable and should fetch a good price. Also, TW Bid amounts are much lower across the board, which is helping keep guild costs down.

    4. Judging by the majority of the players who've commented in the TW discussion sticky, definitely not.

    5. It wouldn't happen soon, but a change is certainly possible. When drastic changes are implemented in a game, there are often secondary tweaks, so we'll see.

    6. Too soon to come to a definite conclusion on the new bidding system. We won't start thinking about a changing the system up until this happens.

    Okay thanks for your response. But I'm just wondering, who will actually buy the Medal of Glory? It's kind of like selling a Warsoul mold if you get what I mean.
  • CJD - Heavens Tear
    CJD - Heavens Tear Posts: 91 Arc User
    edited August 2010


    Are we going to have another pay system soon?
    Are you thinking of alternative/old bidding system?


    ehem!!!

    No!

    Too much thinking is harmful for health!!


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    We love to be held... talked too..
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  • Drakanson - Sanctuary
    Drakanson - Sanctuary Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    I think..... OH LOOK ... a chicken in another game that you can RIDE and FLY. :) Cya