Is it good to be a cleric as your main account?

chayamoon
chayamoon Posts: 8 Arc User
edited August 2010 in Cleric
Because when your picking from the "class discussion" to click cleric, the description says something like "even though no one wants to be one". lol is it bad? whats better than being a cleric?

and are clerics only winged elves like I? lolzz.
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  • KanariaRose - Archosaur
    KanariaRose - Archosaur Posts: 67 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    My first character was a cleric and i did just fine, but if this is your first mmorpg ever, i would go for something less stressful right off the bat.

    Pro and con time

    Pros:

    As a cleric you will find it very easy to get into parties ,if a party is held up its usually looking for either a kitteh, or a cleric

    Despite what some people who fail at the class would lead you to think, we are GREAT at solo grinding/questing, we only need tanks for the big melee type bosses, but every robe class needs that.

    Later on in life we usualy get second pick of valuable drops in places like twilight temple, second only after the tank

    Cons: We BLEED money. Our skills are expensive and we have a lot were expected to max, along with extremely costly potion costs(take up apothecary to reduce this) until we can use mp food at 75(life saver)

    People are dicks to our class in many ways. IF a squad is wiped due to fail tanking rather than fail heals, rather than the kitteh getting blamed, the cleric is usually flamed, this gets better in higher level parties ive noticed, once everyone knows more about the game. You will also get bossed around a lot by people who usual have no idea what the hell they are talking about, i once got yelled at by a party for not healing with pure hearted...fail

    People will often be your best friend if they need you to rez them or heal as they do a boss, but wont give you the time of day if you need help, just unfriend and black list these leeches lol.


    My 2 cents
  • Fruitluips - Lost City
    Fruitluips - Lost City Posts: 190 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    I've never even seen those descriptions until now. They should change the archer forum's description to something more appropriate like "Here lies the math behind every ambiguously/incorrectly worded skill for every class." Bless those archers.

    Sure it's good, but you have to be a certain kind of person to make it good. Especially now since someone can say "oh I have a 100 cleric I know what I'm talking about" and the character was leveled in a few weeks or less. I'd say being a cleric full-time is one of the best options if you want to learn; it could only be tied with being a tank full time. Either way you'll learn a lot about the classes you've never even played just because you will have to save them.
  • Ashivas - Dreamweaver
    Ashivas - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,293 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Everything Konaria said is true. People will friend you just so they can ask you for shiit. Don't play cleric if you can't say no to people. It is expensive to play, very expensive. It's a great class, with a great squad, it's the worst class, if you're in a terrible squad.
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  • Segomo - Dreamweaver
    Segomo - Dreamweaver Posts: 53 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    The one major thing you have to take into account when playing a cleric ('specially as your first character)...we're social creatures. We are excellent at soloing (I only ever die if I'm not paying attention) but at the same time we're such an essential staple in parties, especially end game with Frostcovered City runs and World Bosses, that you will never have nothing to do.

    My advice, if you're not prepared to get hammered by people because they think they know your class better than you...*scoff*...play a wizard, or a psychic...or heck...a BM! There are so many BMs and Archers, I'm sure you'll learn you class in no time based on the amount of unsolicited advice you get.

    On a personal note, I highly recommend EVERYONE play a cleric at one point. Since it's literally our job to pay attention to everyone else AND the monsters...we get a fairly firm understanding of what other classes can do. Not should do...or will do...but what they can do.
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  • Deceptistar - Sanctuary
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Cons: We BLEED money.
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  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Bleh, just blame the tank.
    xD
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  • LifeHunting - Heavens Tear
    LifeHunting - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,023 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Main reason I have a cleric alt: So I can say "GET THIS ****ING MOB OFF MY **** YOU GOD DAMN LAZY **** TANK AND DD'S!!!!!!" in any squads that let him get mobs on him b:chuckle
  • Rjwashere - Dreamweaver
    Rjwashere - Dreamweaver Posts: 208 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    My first character was a cleric and i did just fine, but if this is your first mmorpg ever, i would go for something less stressful right off the bat.

    Pro and con time



    Cons: We BLEED money. Our skills are expensive and we have a lot were expected to max, along with extremely costly potion costs(take up apothecary to reduce this) until we can use mp food at 75(life saver)






    if your a pure cleric u will rarely ever use pots. if your a pure cleric the only time You'll need mp pots is if u need to do BB, well that's how it goes for me anyway
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  • Rjwashere - Dreamweaver
    Rjwashere - Dreamweaver Posts: 208 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    ugh i messed up on that quote =/
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  • FatherTed - Dreamweaver
    FatherTed - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,723 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Once I got past the 60's I stopped considering my cleric expensive. That was before BHs were introduced though. If you only level through BHs you'll have less income. Grinding and aoe'ing is almost pure profit as long as you are patient enough to meditate occasionally. Arcane gear isn't horribly expensive, and you don't need to farm TT gears until your tt90 stuff. Even then, clerics have the benefit of not only being needed in any TT squad, but usually getting 2nd pick with low cost to run a TT. Skills might be expensive, but we don't really have that many to level compared to some of the other classes.

    So yes, if you are impatient it's expensive early on - but a pretty solid money maker from the mid levels on (80+)
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  • TheFoul - Dreamweaver
    TheFoul - Dreamweaver Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Lol, my cleric is my main, level 70 xD
  • MystiMonk - Sanctuary
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary Posts: 4,286 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    I guess other than Barb and Clerics aren't the only winged class.
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  • NinnaXXX - Sanctuary
    NinnaXXX - Sanctuary Posts: 430 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    hm i have a cleric as my main char for about more than a year now ,i think at first its hard and annoying sometimes but by time when you start understanding how things work it gets easier and if you kno what your doing dont let plp command even at my lvl i get commanded around i just tell them to shush and let me do my job xD be patient =)
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  • BeingHope - Raging Tide
    BeingHope - Raging Tide Posts: 1,869 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    When I first started PWI in June of 2009, I first rolled a BM.
    However I made a cleric because my faction didn't have enough.
    From that moment on I've been cleric on every server I do play on.

    Being a cleric has its benefits and its doubts.
    Clearly, it can be quite expensive.
    However it is not all that bad.
    You can quite easily make money by spamming TTs later on.
    Or as people have said, grind.
    I charge gold for fashion, but grind for my gear.

    If you do roll a successful cleric, kudos for you.
    But it does take a few times before you get a cleric correct.

    Tips for clerics:

    Never, EVER, add dex...... please... just don't...

    If you roll a pure AA cleric (9 mag, 1 str), do note you will have to restat later for more HP.
    I was a pure AA cleric, then had to put in 100 vit points just to survive in TW, FC, TT, etc.
    I recommend getting vit in early on.

    Fashion for clerics comes easily as *snaps* that.
    But I do recommend instead of buying fashion (like I did),
    get better gear...

    Anything else I should add?
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  • MystiMonk - Sanctuary
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary Posts: 4,286 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    I would say if you play a healer class in another game then yes it is ok but if you haven't and still want to.I would suggest getting into squads as much as possible around The Arch.
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  • Frijolero - Sanctuary
    Frijolero - Sanctuary Posts: 820 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    If you dual comp, a High lvl cleric will help you to lvl up fast your alts. an 8x cleric can almost all 1x~4x bosses & FBs.
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  • MystiMonk - Sanctuary
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary Posts: 4,286 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    If you dual comp, a High lvl cleric will help you to lvl up fast your alts. an 8x cleric can almost all 1x~4x bosses & FBs.

    What is in it for us?
    Looking for a decent casual understanding Faction.
  • Im_A_Healer - Dreamweaver
    Im_A_Healer - Dreamweaver Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    I don't know if anyone wrote this already, but you MUST try playing a cleric to at least level 60, no matter main or alt. That's mainly so you wouldn't flame and swear at clerics who accidentally heal someone wrong or with wrong spell. It is NOT as easy as it may look from the sides.
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  • Charmy_ - Sanctuary
    Charmy_ - Sanctuary Posts: 20 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    I don't know if anyone wrote this already, but you MUST try playing a cleric to at least level 60, no matter main or alt. That's mainly so you wouldn't flame and swear at clerics who accidentally heal someone wrong or with wrong spell. It is NOT as easy as it may look from the sides.

    i agree people always yell at clerics if they they did something wrong b:cry. Cleric isn't an easy class to play like how others think. I've been playing the healer role in other mmorpgs so been a healer for about 5 years now (dayum that's long O.o) I've been a cleric in pw for about a year now but took many breaks xD. My first class ever was a healer in another game. I enjoyed healing other people and I find it very challenging which I like b:chuckle. I guess I stuck with cleric ever since. Everyone should try to play cleric in my opinion so they can at least get how clerics work. Clerics are also expensive. The skills are just in such high prices x.x. Then you buy mp pots/food whenever your in squads so u won't have to meditate during boss fights and mobs. Anyway if your the type of person that enjoys to heal and support your team then cleric is the one for you. But if your not I would suggest maybe try another class b:thanks
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  • Frijolero - Sanctuary
    Frijolero - Sanctuary Posts: 820 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    If you dual comp, a High lvl cleric will help you to lvl up fast your alts. an 8x cleric can almost all 1x~4x bosses & FBs.
    What is in it for us?

    What I meanis, a high lvl cleric can solo almost all bosses from 1X to 4x without the need of a tank. So if you play with 2 computers, you can have your cleric on one and the other char (on a separate account) on the other set on follow and/or let it DD on boss.

    Also, you can take your low lvl character to follow you while high lvl killing mobs. He'll get about the same amount of exp as if he's killing mobs his lvl, and you can keep playing with your main.
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  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    What I meanis, a high lvl cleric can solo almost all bosses from 1X to 4x without the need of a tank. So if you play with 2 computers, you can have your cleric on one and the other char (on a separate account) on the other set on follow and/or let it DD on boss.

    Ummm...more bosses then that. Hell I solo'd my 99 culti bosses. Many would be surprised what Clerics can tank b:chuckle
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  • Frijolero - Sanctuary
    Frijolero - Sanctuary Posts: 820 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Ummm...more bosses then that. Hell I solo'd my 99 culti bosses. Many would be surprised what Clerics can tank b:chuckle

    I haven't tried higher than 40 yet. My BM is still in his mid 30s b:surrender
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    Although I'm still alive, pray to God I survive
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  • Daikataro - Dreamweaver
    Daikataro - Dreamweaver Posts: 126 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    I recently started playing a cleric, so far lvl 39 and aiming to 40 so i can start doing BHs and get a grip of what it really is to be in charge of a squad's survival, yet i've helped a few folks since i joined a low level faction mainly to have people to talk to as i quest (i had forgotten how boring low level quests are), also as a side note he's a pure-breed, the neccesary strenght for a cleric (trying to cap it soon to wear a good helmet but giving mag priority), no dex and no vit, just magic and a +10 magic tome i found for 2,5m and here's what i think about the class so far

    -Very weak at the start, gets stronger as time goes by (most melee creatures won't be able to even get close to you before they die)
    -Relies HEAVILY on the weapon, little on the armor (but it's nice to have backup in case something actually hits you)
    -Very, and i mean VERY spirit and mana hungry, spirit because there are many important skills at the beggining that you must level and are expected to, buffs, revive, IH, plus your own attack skills like plume shot and cyclone (a cleric's bread and butter) and mana because my bar depleted after killing 5-7 mobs, getting less expensive as time goes by since i get to shoot with more strenght
    -Requires a lot of micro-management, a cleric's nightmare are those "musical aggro" squads, and yes sins can be annoying when they steal aggro, but are actually useful if they can take the beating with you healing them
    -Arcane gear is not really THAT expensive and mold stuff will do the trick most of the time, your weapon however is gonna cost you quite a bit

    Would i recommend playing a cleric as your very first and main char? not a chance! my small cleric is doing good because of all the backup he's getting from this guy, basically what he needs he gets without questions, but at lower levels being a cleric is really expensive both because of the mana pots and the many many skills you must level in order to be a competent cleric

    Moreover, it requires more concentration that the other classes, since you have to watch:
    a) the tank
    b) whoever steals aggro
    c) the mobs
    d) yourself

    So i would say roll a BM, we're fairly easy to understand, have a decent firepower and can become really good tanks around lvl 75, being a tank is a great way to understand clerics, actually most of the cleric stuff i know is because i'm used to be a tank, thus me and the cleric are strongly dependant one on each other, if he dies i die and vice-versa
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  • Umbra - Raging Tide
    Umbra - Raging Tide Posts: 300 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Tis true. I think we're the most expensive class on the game :(
    But after maxing out your skills, you'll realize it's completely worth it. b:pleased
    I managed to max out all mine by the time I hit 88. Tempest included. lvl 10 Tempest = b:dirty But that's just me.
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  • FatherTed - Dreamweaver
    FatherTed - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,723 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    If you roll a pure AA cleric (9 mag, 1 str), do note you will have to restat later for more HP.
    I was a pure AA cleric, then had to put in 100 vit points just to survive in TW, FC, TT, etc.
    I recommend getting vit in early on.

    Anything else I should add?

    You might choose to add vit but you don't have to restat to do those instances successfully. Lots of high level clerics do all of those with 3 vit.

    I'm not saying people shouldn't consider a vit build, but I am saying you can survive just fine with a full magic build if that's what you choose.
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  • Sangea - Sanctuary
    Sangea - Sanctuary Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Ummm...more bosses then that. Hell I solo'd my 99 culti bosses. Many would be surprised what Clerics can tank b:chuckle

    The only problem I've had with soloing [mini]bosses was getting my mana pots to cool down fast enough to use them again (I didn't have lvl 2 remedies at the time D:). I imagine that the bare minimum of HP would have to be enough to keep from being one-shotted at a higher level.
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  • Daikataro - Dreamweaver
    Daikataro - Dreamweaver Posts: 126 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Vit is a waste on clerics, since it barely adds 10 hp per point, you're much better sharding with citrines, that's of course if you have the cash, however finding ornaments that have +hp as adds tends to be less expensive and usually does the trick, clerics only need around 3,5k hp most of the time tho, that's if they have decent physical def (some garnets or physical ornaments, or both)
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  • Frijolero - Sanctuary
    Frijolero - Sanctuary Posts: 820 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Tis true. I think we're the most expensive class on the game :(
    But after maxing out your skills, you'll realize it's completely worth it. b:pleased
    I managed to max out all mine by the time I hit 88. Tempest included. lvl 10 Tempest = b:dirty But that's just me.

    I'm pretty sure barbs get the 1st place on most expensive class of all. They have to pay a lot of coins fixing their gears every simgle time, while our repair bills are not that expensive, unless you go leeroy jenkins, solo all the time, or likes to play tank.

    What makes it feel expensive, is the difficult task of gathering money, the high coin cost of the main skills, and the so many skills a cleric must upgrade to play is role efficiently.

    Fortunately, those are one time expenses. So in the beggining playing a cleric is hard, but once you get all your main skills leveled by lvl60, you can relax and enjoy some income till your reach lvl79, when you need to spend a lot of money again on newer skills, and upgrading the rest up to lvl10.
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    Although I'm still alive, pray to God I survive
    How long on this longest day, 'til we finally make it through.
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  • SaintToadElf - Archosaur
    SaintToadElf - Archosaur Posts: 166 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    You might come across a time when you have to choose between leveling an attack skill, like Plume Shot or Wield Thunder, or leveling a party skill, like Revive or buffs. Go with the attack skill if you generally grind alone. It makes your life so much easier when you can take down grind mobs with 2-3 hits. I also like to suggest ALWAYS carrying at least one res scroll. When you're the only cleric in a party and you get creamed, it's bad news. Res scroll will put you back into play and then you can res your squad and try again.
  • Ninnuam - Sanctuary
    Ninnuam - Sanctuary Posts: 1,086 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    if your a pure cleric u will rarely ever use pots. if your a pure cleric the only time You'll need mp pots is if u need to do BB, well that's how it goes for me anyway

    I'd love to hear you say that when you're using 500 mp each sage ironheart and 1k mana each sage stream. Throw in 2 furballs that like to drop A-bombs as soon as they're out of cd and you'll be chugging pots like there's no tomorrow :D
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