Fist/Claw Cleric
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If you like it do it, whatever people say b:bye[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Sorry i speak engrish b:chuckle
Nickname doesn't have anything to do with sailor but related to a folklore
Use search, it was your best friends to avoid many suffering in internet...0 -
MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear wrote: »If you like it do it, whatever people say b:bye
^^ This
It's your time you spend ingame noone else's .. enjoy it how you see fit.
( I think most high levels have a **** and giggles weird build alt kicking about for fun )[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
i actually thought of this on my cleric..but then again i thought..i have my bm.0
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Negreiros - Sanctuary wrote: »OK due to the over population of clerics im changing all my points so i can be a Claw/HA user b:victory
By next week i will have enought $$$ to do such a change
Anyone has experienced that before?
You better re-roll another class if you plan to do that, or better yet, i hope that was a joke b:shocked0 -
Desire - Dreamweaver wrote: »You better re-roll another class if you plan to do that, or better yet, i hope that was a joke b:shocked
If he wanted to use fists on a bm he would have, doing it on a class that you shouldnt do it on is so much more interesting....ly stupid but fun nevertheless.b:pleased
P.S. Me gonna have 25% crit rate at lvl100b:avoidb:scorn...We are one, We are many, We are watching you...b:scorn0 -
Thanks for all Post,
i working on a build that still alows me to help on healing,o/[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] i have seen PW alive...it was awesome xD0 -
Glad I checked out this thread, and kudos to the OP! b:victory
Discharges three Sparks to recover 20% of your maximum MP,
add 700% weapon damage, and increase attack speed by 25%
for 15 seconds. Grants invincibility for 3 seconds after the discharge.
The patk is lower than a veno's but we get no where near that kind of benefit from spark. The combination of buffs and debuffs that clerics have available before they melee would be incredible for soloing. I'd love to witness this beast in action!b:thanksBe kind: Help the GMs to depopulate the servers.0 -
Just use a magic sword as a melee weapon. It has a 1.25 attack rate- that's pretty decent. Shard it up to increase it's physical damage. You can still heal and plume shell yourself while using it. Just make sure you have enough dex to actually hit somebody and it's physical damage does increase with higher str. Get those genie skills that increase attack rate, I prefer wind shield for melee use because it lasts longer. The other one increases both casting and melee but has shorter duration.
You have inspired me to try this with my 5x alt cleric.
This could be do-able with a LA build. Cyclone and plume shot until mobs in range, thunderball for added dps, plume shell in emergencies. silent or chromatic seal in emergencies.
Switching between patakas and magic swords as you level up will provide best weapon damage increase.
Elemental shards are only good for melee attacks, now you have something to use them for!0 -
Negreiros - Sanctuary wrote: »OK due to the over population of clerics im changing all my points so i can be a Claw/HA user b:victory
By next week i will have enought $$$ to do such a change
Anyone has experienced that before?
You should try to go LA with -int and whack with a mag sword and see how it works.
Ive always thought about experimenting with it, but i dont have the time or money.
Mag swords have around the same phy damage as fists, so imagine a mag sword swinging at incredible speeds while still being able to do a little mag attacksFacebook.com/foxi187
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Id try it on a p-server that starts you out at 100, would save you tons.0
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I'm totally going to do this. I'm going to create and level up a cleric that uses magic weapons for melee. I'm going to have to go with LA build so I have better phys protection and increased phys damage from str and increased accuracy from dex. I'm going to level up Thunderball to add dps to my attacks.
Question is: if I'm just using minimum dex for armor, would accesorizing for evasion or phys protection make more sense? Say I have 54 dex and lvl 50, will using evasion-based necklaces and belts give me the desired dodge-power, or should I just go for phys protection?
Because, I can't put anything into vitality. I need almost all stat points for dex / str for LA and mag to use the most current weapons.
What sort of genie skills would help a squishy, not-so-pro melee fighter?0 -
Stupidity at it's best... Using Fists already ******* enuff some bm's , who is gonna want a totally Fail cleric in the squad? Nobody.. theres enuff DD's already in the game, the last thing you want is to finally find a cleric for your BH squad and realize that he is not gonna heal you. AMAZING.............. what boredom is capable of.0
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Stupidity at it's best... Using Fists already ******* enuff some bm's , who is gonna want a totally Fail cleric in the squad? Nobody.. theres enuff DD's already in the game, the last thing you want is to finally find a cleric for your BH squad and realize that he is not gonna heal you. AMAZING.............. what boredom is capable of.
The stupidity stems from the people who request things like cleric, barb, etc. It's not anyone else's fault that they didn't request a healer or tank. Barbs are rarely even expected to tank anymore, for all they know they might be being requested just for buffs or luring. It's your job when making requests to specify the job, not the class. People always assume they know whats best.Be kind: Help the GMs to depopulate the servers.0 -
The stupidity stems from the people who request things like cleric, barb, etc. It's not anyone else's fault that they didn't request a healer or tank. Barbs are rarely even expected to tank anymore, for all they know they might be being requested just for buffs or luring. It's your job when making requests to specify the job, not the class. People always assume they know whats best.
I know right?
I remember once when I was lvl 79, someone WCed for a tank for fb59, So I whispered them, got the invite and instantly got the "wtf" "lolz" "we need a barb" and a swift boot out of the group...
Guess they didnt think a cleric could "tank" 59.0 -
noone is going to want a cleric that cant heal, i think you will be wasting ur money.0
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Fenora - Sanctuary wrote: »noone is going to want a cleric that cant heal, i think you will be wasting ur money.
If IH didnt stack, I would agree... But with this build
http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=bf67dd96618dfb0b
I would say that cleric can still be an efficient healer..
This is a beat a dead horse topic.....
link from this debate...
http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=5808810 -
I think this is a GREAT idea, I think you better go ahead with all these, and get some interv gears[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]"wink wink"0
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For all of you callng the OP (and others) stupid for liking the idea, it's better to have fun and mess around with builds if you can afford to just for the hell of it.
Being all "serous bizness" in a dying game makes about as much sense as trying to pet a wild lion.
I've had fun playing with pure melee venos in the past. Would really like to see someone pull this build off for a cleric. b:chuckleSome people risk to employ me
Some people live to destroy me
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Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze0 -
Xarathox - Dreamweaver wrote: »For all of you callng the OP (and others) stupid for liking the idea, it's better to have fun and mess around with builds if you can afford to just for the hell of it.
Being all "serous bizness" in a dying game makes about as much sense as trying to pet a wild lion.
I've had fun playing with pure melee venos in the past. Would really like to see someone pull this build off for a cleric. b:chuckle
You DO know when veno spark, they gain the most add on damage thru spark right? That's why it is actually a very good build to let veno fist.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]"wink wink"0 -
I spent this weekend leveling up my melee cleric and he is now level 30. I'm going with the LA build (3Mag, 1Str, 1Dex) so I can always have the newest magic weapon and have some str and dex to improve his melee capabilities. The whole point is to make use of the 1.25 attack rate of the magic sword and glaives. The patakas are slower (1.0) but sometimes do better damage. It did feel strange to add accuracy shards to my Order of the Stars.
I have been armoring him with lower level heavy armor or current level light armor, depending on which offers greater physical protection at the time. The -% req helped to get some heavy armor. I shard his gear for HP and Phys Prot. This will eventually become LA only as I see the HA str curve coming up soon. I'm going to have to get a set of arcane armor for better protection against magic opponents.
I have been putting my spirit into Vanguard Spirit, IH, Thunderball (for added dps), other buffs, Plume Shell. As I max the skills that assist with melee combat, eventually I will be able to level up my party skills.
Tactics. This has been working for me and is fun. I Thunderball the mob at max range, IH myself, sometimes add a Plume Shot or Cyclone, and by then the mob is on me and we engage in melee. Sometimes I finish the mob off with a Plume Shot or Cyclone. I was owning the Midnight Jacklea-somethings by the Master Swordmaker. I don't play PVP. The biggest problem mobs have been arcane or archers, mainly because they run when I try to engage. I can always use PS or Cyclone on them when I decide to. Extra Defense mobs as well.
So, I'm definitely not pure melee. Thunderball is a must and I use Plume Shot and Cyclone when needed. I have only had to use Plume Shell in emergency situations, like when I pull 2 or more mobs. It's saved my life more than once. I can't wait to get Dimensional Seal to toss on arcane opponents.
I've been training my genie to use Searing Heat and Blade of Supreme Heat for added damage in a pinch. I'm so dissapointed in Celestial Sword. It sounds cool, but it's a fail genie skill. So, I got Wind Shield instead. I want to get Tangling Mire, to lower mob's defense, but it's going to be another 10 genie levels before I can get that.
This is kinda a solo build, but since I'm maxing my IH for personal use, I don't see why I couldn't be a LA healer for a party. I only have a Revive of 1 right now, but eventually I will up that when I max the melee assist skills. I forgot to get Purify, to Purify myself, and I definitely need to get that. I'm maxing my buffs for personal use and that can help with parties also. My next goals are to get Razor Feathers and Siren's Kiss. I passed on them so far to put more into IH and Vanguard Spirit, but the more I look at them, the more I think they can be ok for aoe. Since I'm already maxing Thunderball, a spell most arcane clerics ignore for being under-powered, maybe I should max RF and SK and make use of them as well.
My melee cleric's name is HolyKnightXx and he's on the Archo server. I got him to 30 with this concept; I'm going to see how far I can go with this idea before it just becomes a big pain in the ***.0 -
Wait, i just have to say this came as big shocker... There's an overpopulation of Clerics in Sanct? Since when? I mean, seriously, it's all level ranges that i see spamming for a Cleric at BH and there's like someone in WC asking for one like every other minute. I say SS or it never happened...
As for the whole fist Cleric thing yea, whatever...0 -
MANray_ - Sanctuary wrote: »Wait, i just have to say this came as big shocker... There's an overpopulation of Clerics in Sanct? Since when? I mean, seriously, it's all level ranges that i see spamming for a Cleric at BH and there's like someone in WC asking for one like every other minute. I say SS or it never happened...
As for the whole fist Cleric thing yea, whatever...
Oh there are clerics around. Just they are VERY selective, most will reserve themselves for people they know. Clerics hate pick up squads more than any other class.0 -
Kinda off topic but I thought there weren't much clerics in sance since people constantly ask for one O.o. For the fist it's unique xD. But I wouldn't really do it lol. I love healing b:chuckleLvl 100 Sage Cleric b:cute
I love you Zero_ IV b:chuckle ^.^ (Also my in-game hubby b:pleased)0 -
a veno would make more sense for this type of thing... as they get physical attack bonuses from their spark.... also if you break your weapon you can change to fox form then repair it and get the extra physical attack bonus from fox.0
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Oh there are clerics around. Just they are VERY selective, most will reserve themselves for people they know. Clerics hate pick up squads more than any other class.
Well, that would explain a lot since upwards of 90% of my runs are PUGs...
But come on, is not that likely they'll get an STD being on the same group as me. b:laugh0 -
Lol @ the thought of a HA cleric.0
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Lyritha - Heavens Tear wrote: »a veno would make more sense for this type of thing... as they get physical attack bonuses from their spark.... also if you break your weapon you can change to fox form then repair it and get the extra physical attack bonus from fox.
For the first time, I'm thinking about making a veno. It's a shame Untamed can't use claw weapons while in animal form. That would rock.
After checking out Ecatomb PWI website, I think I had a fail idea. I compared a veno and cleric with the same stats, gear, and level and the veno is a much better arcane melee. Even in human form, she had better accuracy, evasion, phys def, and damage. And once in fox form, she was even better.
Time to reroll....0
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