Levelling as a fist/claw bm

I think fist only shines with 95+

Yeah, it's gonna be tough with nothing on vit so if you have the money i suggest getting vit then restat. Axe is better before the real fist/5aps.

orcsam wrote: »

I've asked a couple of 9x/100 BMs on my server about stat allocation for bms and as I understand you should put 3 str 2 dex every level in order to use both axes and fists. I'm used to casters and ranged DD's and hitting rather high numbers.

Getting to the topic, I know that axes are great for levelling around the 7x levels due to aoe grinding. I also know that once you get to bh levels, there's little grinding to be done.

So, my question is this. Levelling through the 2x, 3x levels as a fist/claw bm, using the 3/2 stat allocation, am I going to find it easy or difficult?

One level 100 BM suggested that I go 3 str, 1 dex, 1 vit until level 95, then restat to use the lunar claws. He says fists before then are useless, since it is unlikely that you can get 5APS before that level.

I'd like to rephrase my earlier question. I'm not searching for an easy way to level up. I am simply curious as to whether it's a better idea to level with axes when doing solo quests or save the axes for the squads?


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The BM who told you that is either trying to cover up their **** up in going fists late game, or simply just another mindless drone repeating ****.

Fist was simple to level up through game, even before BH. 3-2 set up, and make sure to gather the herbs needed for life powders as you level from 1-10. That area is easy, and won't matter how you stat for the most part. From 10 on, use Life Powders. Without any double xp event, I think it takes around 50-60 (10-12 crafts) life powders to get through the quests and grinding. Once you hit 29, you get your self-heal from Diamond Sutra. That let's you go off of mana potions from then on basically. And because of chi gain from fists, you will be able to Sutra at a much higher rate than other weaponry.

Make sure to use HA, and skip any mag only mobs in 5X range for quests. More annoyance than they are worth. There are few worthwhile AoE areas before thieves at 7X, and at 60 I'd finish off a mob twice as quickly as another BM wielding TT axes. Check AH frequently for fists/claws with 2 phys damage adds, open sockets, or -int on them. All of those will benefit fist/claw damage to a higher degree than other weapons. Check in both HA and LA wrist armor for any -int bracers you can get to boost your attack rate. At 60, if you have the money, you can work on getting DQ orders to get Bracers of Blood Moon. Those will make fists superior 1v1 damage than the other weapon types to a noticeable degree.

Main thing is most quests early on do not have mobs that can be AoE'ed, and fists can kill just as fast as axes while being cheaper as well; both because you won't need to level up useless attack skills that get ditched later on, and from not needing to use as much mana.

Fists are good from 29 on, very good from 60 on, great from 85/89 on, and "why the hell aren't you using them" from 99 on.

I was a fist/claw BM from lvl 3 and only started using axes and other weapons until lvl 5x.
I didn't have problem with killing number of mobs...instead of using AoE's I just sparked and punched away. Killed just as fast and saved me mana potions in the long run.

I was fist/axe from level 1 on my bm. didnt really use any axe skills till 39 when i got the first aoe.

level for a bm becomes so much easier after you get sutra at 29.

I tanked bhs 29 and 39 without problem holding aggro on pure dps from wizzies and archers (didnt tank herc usually left a wiz)

I really dont know why people say fists are only good if u have interval. if you do the math on straight attacks no sparking or anything all 4 weapons have almost the same dps for the same level weapons. dont believe me go do some math t the forges. the only real difference is skills and chi.

I'm nearly 70 (yea i know not too high) and will be using dark flash and calamities both at 70. as far as i'm concerned a bm that limits himself to only one path is the one that fails.

(also carry a pole, sword and bow with me toob:chuckle)

In short: you mostly level with BHs and frost where people usually kill mobs one by one. If they don't, just change to axes and AoE.

With fist/axe build (3Str/2Dex)

Which skills should I focus on more and level to 10 faster?

All i hear is fist are **** to use as a BM. I started out useing hammers till i got to lvl 35 or so then went to fists. I beat stuff to death with fists. I am lvl 60 now useing fists of anialation or however you spell it. I can solo mobs up to 4 lvls above me just using spark heal. Only draw back is not being able to keep up with all the heavy armors. I dont mind the lower lvl armor cause my fists kills the mobs so fast it dont matter. I know i am new to this game but i have played many games like it and cant beleive that people think that the slowest weapons in the game are the best. I would rather have the weapon thats 2x as fast and do just a little bit less dmg. My crit rate and evasion makes up for it imo. Its all a matter of opinion on the weapons. I listened to everyone and used axes when i started after i tried fists i will not go back to axes or hammers.

From my opinions how a blademaster should go, I think they should just go from Axes to Axes to Axes until you get like...around 60-70+

I don't know, from my own experience, in RT server, I went 3 str 1 dex 1 vit every level, and it was good, generating chi was a pain, not to mention I had lvl 1 marrows. lolwut?

When I started on Archosaur server I started out pure Fists only, and it could be a good idea in a sense, I went from lvl 1 - 70 with fists and realized some important things...


I think you should just start out Axes. Plain and Simple. People in the early levels, Gamma, Delta, TTs (HF), and even FC, people want Axe BMs. If you just roll fists you are completely useless, unless you're willing to spend $ on the game to get yourself to a high level without doing that (Oracles, Hypers work too, but are best efficient in FC, but you need axes, along with AoE Grinding). But once you get to 100, and do Nirvana, people rather have 5 aps BMs instead of pure Axe BMs. So you could go 3 STR 2 DEX every level. Hell I even know a couple people who went 5 STR every even level and 5 DEX every odd level. Most people Refine and shard for their gear as well, and go with the simple 3 STR 2 DEX build.

But since I'm going off topic, I'll just end it there. lolifail.

XCableX - Archosaur wrote: »

From my opinions how a blademaster should go, I think they should just go from Axes to Axes to Axes until you get like...around 60-70+

I don't know, from my own experience, in RT server, I went 3 str 1 dex 1 vit every level, and it was good, generating chi was a pain, not to mention I had lvl 1 marrows. lolwut?

When I started on Archosaur server I started out pure Fists only, and it could be a good idea in a sense, I went from lvl 1 - 70 with fists and realized some important things...


I think you should just start out Axes. Plain and Simple. People in the early levels, Gamma, Delta, TTs (HF), and even FC, people want Axe BMs. If you just roll fists you are completely useless, unless you're willing to spend $ on the game to get yourself to a high level without doing that (Oracles, Hypers work too, but are best efficient in FC, but you need axes, along with AoE Grinding). But once you get to 100, and do Nirvana, people rather have 5 aps BMs instead of pure Axe BMs. So you could go 3 STR 2 DEX every level. Hell I even know a couple people who went 5 STR every even level and 5 DEX every odd level. Most people Refine and shard for their gear as well, and go with the simple 3 STR 2 DEX build.

But since I'm going off topic, I'll just end it there. lolifail.

arent you the 101 bm asking how to play his class a few posts down?

70+ is the only time squads will "need" axes and thats what we call "midgame" now untill then fists will be used to grind/DD in bh/build chi for HF

fists take 1 skill lvl 10 1 skill lvl 3 and 1 lvl 1 to work almost no spirit comitment

this is advice for people who dont fruit>oracle>hyper>hyper more if somone wants to skip the entire game thats their choice but weapon does not mater there so moot point

oh and fists are exelent for grinding from 29+ 1v1 build fastest chi = HF every 30 seconds and can still cancle fine so yes useless (int makes em godly though)

and i personaly will not bring a mono axe/sword/pole/fist bm into tt/fcc axe fist/all weapon or gtfo of my squad...will bring em into bh to laugh at em in faction chat though

the ONLY time mono axe is a good idea is lvl 10x with all your gear farmed and refined as a tw only build

3/2 build is for people who can afford good refines and good shards (I don't mean +10 and full vit stones, just generic +3-5, Flawless/Immacs). You'll have 1.5k ish less than a vit axe BM but you make up for it by killing much, much faster. Plus with Bloodpaint from Sins, you'll even have the upperhand in survival.

But if you are that worried about HP, you can add a single point of vit every 2 levels. I have 6 base vit (pure damage build) with +5 armor pieces rolling immac cits, which bring me on par or higher with other BMs who have been adding vit in HP.