Nirvana - Change it back

I lost the game.

Aside from that, I don't see anything wrong with it. Get yourself a 5aps fist BM or two and it'll be fairly fast.

Eh, I don't think it's that much harder. The only people that are having difficulties with it now are the same people that had trouble with it before the change.

ETA: I think the people that complain about it are just spoiled. It was way too easy before. It's SUPPOSED to be challenging, it's a 100+ instance ffs. This is how it should have always been. Yeah, there are still people that steamroll right through it, but meh, there's no winning against them. For the average squad, the difficulty level now is suitable. If you can't get through it then you should work on getting better gear.

I agree, at level 100 its actually good to have something that is a challenge. I do admit the could have been a little more creative, and instead of all the bosses having been changed the exact same way (Seal+reset agro) they could do something better.

Just some ideas, bosses can be stunned, sealed, slept etc, and can "reset" (Like mobs do, with the yellow thing around them) and the boss has to be sealed, slept, stunned etc to keep the agro else his HP goes up really high.

That was just a random though off the top of my head, and would create more need to know everyones classes, and to coordinate proper teamwork so no stuns or anything are wasted.

One other thing that should have been changed with the increased difficulty of Nirvana should have been the drop rate.

Every boss should have 100% chance to drop 1(One) uncanny with a 20%chance that two will comme out of the same chest. The last boss should always drop 1 rapture and 1 uncanny with a 20% chance at dropping another uncanny.

The way it is makes it ridiculous for the regular joe to actually farm his or her gear without resorting to spending money on the game, which not everyone can do easily (But this is what the devs/gms/whoever want to happen, make us all pay with real money)

Leave it the way it is
People need to stop getting stuff done while being afk, especially end game gear.
Shouldn't be a cake walk.

The changes don't really make much of a difference tbh - still easy enough to do.

As for what my aps is...no ideab:chuckle

warlos wrote: »

The GAME have diff class not everyone r 5aps BM. All instance can be done with diff class in squad why not nirvana why should it be limited to certain class.

Aslong as you have a tank or two, DD's and a Cleric Nirvana can be done with any squad make up. All because people " want " the fastest squad make up doesnt mean it's the only way.


If it takes you 45mins per run doesnt mean it cant be done .

Well the problem with the new updated nirvana, is that ppl dont even want to invite you if your not 5 aps, they just made it harder for all non bm's and sin's to gain crystals.

So unless you can cash shop uncannies you are fine but otherwise your screwed....like everything else in this game

warlos wrote: »

Ops sorry meant to say ASP- atk speed per second

Still no idea m8 - I'm a wizzy so it's an irrelevant numberb:laugh

Eh... Is this supposed to be difficult? All they did was make it so the run takes longer and that simply bores me. I would have preffered a REAL challenge, not something that'll simply waste my time.


(Another side effect of too much bullet hell games.)

I dont really care much. At least now most people cant log 6 chars and solo it for 100% profit <.<

It was nice being able to afk 60-70% of the instance but the new changes doesn't really make the instance "hard". Takes a few minutes longer at most.

Bosses doesn't hit hard anyway, no one dies from 1-2 hits random agro unless they're severely under-geared. The seal does suck at last boss and black feathers, i had chest digger sealed at 3 occasions resulting in pt wipe lol

People are more picky with party now only bringing 4.0-5.0 if possible. Range classes comes in last or as fillers, even more now than before. Bow archers or wizards that gets random agro and runs around with the boss after them making the tank move is a freaking pain and time waster. At least smart wizards/psychics/venos can stand in mele range and DD and take a few hits so the boss wont move around when it randoms.

I dont think it should go back to how it was. Nirvana was to freaking easy before. But they could have come up with something more creative and less annoying than seal.

VlLKASS - Sanctuary wrote: »

b:chuckle Apparently just adding the seal + random agro already causing a buch of QQ about how nirvana is impossible. I wonder what would happen if it was actually hard. b:cute Fun fun

Just kinda makes me laugh too.

And then these same Hyper/BH/Oraclers who have crappy equips claim that they know how to play their class....

Yeah right. b:laugh

Okeano - Harshlands wrote: »

Why would you think a thread "Change it back", with a poll, would affect anything about what happens to this game? Surely if you are 100, you've been here long enough to know better. Unless...

He's 102...

VlLKASS - Sanctuary wrote: »

b:chuckle Apparently just adding the seal + random agro already causing a buch of QQ about how nirvana is impossible. I wonder what would happen if it was actually hard. b:cute Fun fun

lol really. It should be at least on par with 3-3 difficulty... not that 3-3 is all that difficult, but the mobs and bosses hit way harder. But, I guess the point of it really was to be a place that almost everyone can manage after a half dozen runs.

Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »

lol really. It should be at least on par with 3-3 difficulty... not that 3-3 is all that difficult, but the mobs and bosses hit way harder. But, I guess the point of it really was to be a place that almost everyone can manage after a half dozen runs.

Yeah but you don't need 250 Lord's Protections for 1 piece of armour b:embarrass.

Um... it makes sense that a nirvana should be easy to farm unless you plan on taking a year with 1 piece; but at the same time... Meh

I voted NO.

and cleric.

yay an instance where the melee need to pay attention b:chuckle
hasnt really changed much for us clerics