wizard or archer?

__Calvin__ - Raging Tide
__Calvin__ - Raging Tide Posts: 9 Arc User
edited August 2010 in General Discussion
hey guys, im trying to decide between archer and wiz for my secondary. my primary char is a sin and i know that class is PvP so im kind of wanting a class that is good at pve and isnt too common. which of these two is best at pve and (in your opinion) which is more fun to play? thx guys!
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  • EbilBecca - Heavens Tear
    EbilBecca - Heavens Tear Posts: 87 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Wizzies are great though they lvl slowly(if you can kite it's a piece of cake). Archers lvl quickly and are really easy to play(stats are similar to a sin). Whichever you prefer...I like both.
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  • Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear
    Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,864 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Both wizards and archers aren't very common nowadays, they're both primarily DD classes so it's your call I guess.

    P.S. assassins and archers share the same armor, which would be quite convenient in your case.
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  • Lenore - Harshlands
    Lenore - Harshlands Posts: 1,201 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Archers are probably better pve...Wizards are good PvP if you have enough money to give it better-than-average gear.
  • __Calvin__ - Raging Tide
    __Calvin__ - Raging Tide Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    thanks for all the replies, which is better at solo aoe grinding? i know the wizard has good aoe's what about the archer?
  • Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear
    Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,864 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    __Calvin__ - Raging Tide wrote: »
    thanks for all the replies, which is better at solo aoe grinding? i know the wizard has good aoe's what about the archer?

    Archers don't have that many viable AoE's I think. In AoE parties (rare these days) they have barrage. They also have an AoE HP debuff and an AoE melee knockback.

    Wizards have Dragon's Breath for AoE parties aswell as an AoE ranged knockback with a relatively low cooldown and 3 AoE ultimates, so I guess a wizard is better for AoEing.
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  • Lenore - Harshlands
    Lenore - Harshlands Posts: 1,201 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    __Calvin__ - Raging Tide wrote: »
    thanks for all the replies, which is better at solo aoe grinding? i know the wizard has good aoe's what about the archer?

    If you want to grind, archer is the better choice. Wizards have better AoE, but because they run slow and are squishy, you'll have problems luring unless you have a BM to help you. Archers don't AoE grind but they can drop mobs one by one pretty quick.

    If you choose to zhen, either class would work, as they both have sustained AoEs.
  • TigerLily - Lost City
    TigerLily - Lost City Posts: 1,209 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Wizard is a pure PvP class there not many places where a wizard is wanted for anything PvE-related besides maybe Rebirth. If you play wiz be prepared to cash shop a lot since no TT or Nirvana parties will invite you.

    Archers arent that much better tbh, but at least they're cheap to lvl up.

    Sin are better in PvE and PvP than both archers/wizard with similar gear, for most parts.

    If i want a good PvE class i guess make a BM or something. But sin is one of the best classes to at higher lvls so nu clue why you want a char for PvE when you already have on.
  • __Calvin__ - Raging Tide
    __Calvin__ - Raging Tide Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    i thought the assassin was a pvp class?! i want a ranged class since the sin is melee. so ur saying i should go with archer for secondary?
  • Lenore - Harshlands
    Lenore - Harshlands Posts: 1,201 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    __Calvin__ - Raging Tide wrote: »
    i thought the assassin was a pvp class?! i want a ranged class since the sin is melee. so ur saying i should go with archer for secondary?

    Sin is a pretty good PvP class but it's also good PvE. They're not mutually exclusive. If you want to have a ranged class for PvE I'd say archer. Sins pretty much out-dps anyone in pve though :P
  • __Calvin__ - Raging Tide
    __Calvin__ - Raging Tide Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    so what class do u think i should make that is different than the sin?
  • Lenore - Harshlands
    Lenore - Harshlands Posts: 1,201 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Most of my replies were aimed at your opening question. If you want a ranged class for PvE, archer is better and cheaper out of the two choices you gave.
  • Dandelyn - Heavens Tear
    Dandelyn - Heavens Tear Posts: 195 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Definitely archer. They're more versitile than a wiz imo, and you can hand-me-down your sin gear (minus daggers).

    **Unless you plan on making it your main pvp'er, then go with a wiz.
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  • __Calvin__ - Raging Tide
    __Calvin__ - Raging Tide Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    dont read my opening question. for my secondary char i want something different so what do you guys thin is most different from a sin?
  • Yreccils - Harshlands
    Yreccils - Harshlands Posts: 23 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    If you plan to mostly pve, don't get it over 90 and want a cheap class that can also wear your old LA stuff, take an Archer.

    If you plan on pvping later with the char, ready to spend some money, a bigger challenge and a more flexible char, take a wizard.
  • Lichkingll - Harshlands
    Lichkingll - Harshlands Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    well id say archer is best for grinding kus they drop mobs rly fast and wont have to kite much unlike the wiz and most wiz are for PvP
  • __Calvin__ - Raging Tide
    __Calvin__ - Raging Tide Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    so what's the class i should pick that is most unlike the assassin? not just between archer and wiz i mean any class
  • Yulk - Heavens Tear
    Yulk - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,951 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    both are easy to play, in terms of normal world... but all are pretty easy

    Wizard's best kiting tools which you have no choice, or you will have a hard time
    Gush-reason is the slow effect prioritize gush and hit and run with this skill
    Hailstorm-first AOE, 1/3 chance to immobilize, a good stopping spell infact make sure you use this for better chance to not get a single hit, duration of immobilize increases as you level it.
    Pitfall-chances of immobilize are low at level 1, but it gets better (not too better) but better than nothing, it is actually a neat skill despite the slow effect being a bit weak

    After 39+ wizards becomes an easy nuking class thanks to will of the phoenix or great at kiting


    Archer, I used to have trouble till a friend of mine ingame actually taught me how to play
    Take aim = good as an opener
    Quick shot = easy nuke
    Frost arrow = slow
    Knockback arrow = knocking them back
    Aim low = immobilize

    Best nukers endgame imho
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  • __Calvin__ - Raging Tide
    __Calvin__ - Raging Tide Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    so if assassin is a pve class, then should i choose wizard for pvp class? also i would like to aoe grind, is the wizard good at that?
  • Lenore - Harshlands
    Lenore - Harshlands Posts: 1,201 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    __Calvin__ - Raging Tide wrote: »
    so if assassin is a pve class, then should i choose wizard for pvp class? also i would like to aoe grind, is the wizard good at that?

    Gosh you're thick. Assassin is an EVERYTHING (except TW) class. No one knows why you want to make an alt, but archer is better if you're only gonna play half-assed on it.
  • TheTroll - Lost City
    TheTroll - Lost City Posts: 18 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Lenore - Harshlands wrote: »
    Gosh you're thick. Assassin is an EVERYTHING (except TW) class. No one knows why you want to make an alt, but archer is better if you're only gonna play half-assed on it.

    **** ill pk you
  • Lenore - Harshlands
    Lenore - Harshlands Posts: 1,201 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    TheTroll - Lost City wrote: »
    **** ill pk you

    Bring it b:laugh
  • Duke_Atticus - Sanctuary
    Duke_Atticus - Sanctuary Posts: 102 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    __Calvin__ - Raging Tide wrote: »
    so if assassin is a pve class, then should i choose wizard for pvp class? also i would like to aoe grind, is the wizard good at that?

    Your question confuses me, seriously...

    If you're looking for variety in experience, both archer and wizard are different from assassin.

    IMO, the biggest difference between the archer and the wizard is that the wizard actually has a healing spell that makes it more versatile in a random squad situation than an archer. That said, I like playing both, but the headaches that come with being an archer are far more severe than being a wiz.

    Anyway, with your new updated question of what class is most different from the assassin, I can't think of anything but cleric. Every class can DD and tank, but cleric...well, it's pretty self explanatory.
  • __Calvin__ - Raging Tide
    __Calvin__ - Raging Tide Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    ty everyone for all your posts im going to stick with archer... i hope
  • TheTroll - Lost City
    TheTroll - Lost City Posts: 18 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Lenore - Harshlands wrote: »
    Bring it b:laugh

    Ok cmon bro! Let's do this pal! Bring it cheif! Bring it on buddy! You scared comrad? You aint got nothin' friend! Let's take this To the streets broham!
  • Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear
    Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,864 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    TheTroll - Lost City wrote: »
    Ok cmon bro! Let's do this pal! Bring it cheif! Bring it on buddy! You scared comrad? You aint got nothin' friend! Let's take this To the streets broham!

    Lol'd

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  • SaintToadElf - Archosaur
    SaintToadElf - Archosaur Posts: 166 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Why not a cleric? Then you can heal and buff yourself. You can start out maxing your attack spells and be a "red mage" for a while. The Plume Shell helps you survive your squishiness, wizzies don't have that. The complete opposite of a sin? Well Barbs are heavy armor, you could play a tank. Barbs are a lot of fun to play because they can soak so much damage, you're not worried about dying all the freaking time. Barb's the only melee character I like playing. Archers do good damage, are easy to play (put everything in dex) and wear LA. Wizards are squishy and kind of complicated when you level skills. A hybrid cleric is a good inbetween but can't match the DD power of either. Start with wings, go with archer. Just don't forget to buy fist/claws for close encounters and get Earthquake on your genie.
  • Aubree - Dreamweaver
    Aubree - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,868 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Don't feed the trolls b:bye
  • ORUSHo - Raging Tide
    ORUSHo - Raging Tide Posts: 47 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    ty guys for all the help. im gonna get my sin to lvl 45, then my archer to 30, then sin to 55 and so on. = )
  • __Calvin__ - Raging Tide
    __Calvin__ - Raging Tide Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    ty guys for all the help. im gonna get my sin to lvl 45, then my archer to 30, then sin to 55 and so on. = )

    thats me by the way^^

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