Omg venos need help

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  • Dyskrasia - Heavens Tear
    Dyskrasia - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,161 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Frostwish - Raging Tide wrote: »
    I don't see how the hell Venomancers can make 2 mil in a couple of hours. Unless this has something to do with using real money to buy from the CS.

    The only time I've done that was in Nirvana, but I'm a lazy veno and don't like doing things by myself lol
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  • Ashivas - Dreamweaver
    Ashivas - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,293 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    LenieClarke - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    dude, i'm not the one suddenly bringing up **** marriage in the middle of a thread about other stuff entirely. i mean, i like the subject and all --- makes for good debating and good flaming, both --- but there's such a thing as threadjacking too bad for even me.

    Yo're obviously mentally challenged, I pointed out the flaw in your idiotic post and all you do is continue to act as though it's a valid argument. I'm no longer acknowledging your idiocy, you're lack of intelligence is actually making me dumber.
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  • Ashivas - Dreamweaver
    Ashivas - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,293 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Frostwish - Raging Tide wrote: »
    I don't see how the hell Venomancers can make 2 mil in a couple of hours. Unless this has something to do with using real money to buy from the CS.

    Possible because you're level 40. Get to a respectable level and you will see.

    TT squad mode, veno and maybe a cleric. There's a couple mil right there in drops.
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  • VlLKASS - Sanctuary
    VlLKASS - Sanctuary Posts: 1,396 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Frostwish - Raging Tide wrote: »
    I don't see how the hell Venomancers can make 2 mil in a couple of hours. Unless this has something to do with using real money to buy from the CS.

    <.< Less QQ on forums, more pew pew in game.
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  • MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear
    MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,377 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    It's sure hot here b:angry
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  • LenieClarke - Heavens Tear
    LenieClarke - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,275 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Ashivas - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Yo're obviously mentally challenged, [...] you're lack of intelligence is actually making me dumber.

    hate to point this out, but i'm also not the one misplacing my apostrophes here... b:chuckle
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  • Myalt - Raging Tide
    Myalt - Raging Tide Posts: 89 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    WTF? This thread is a joke.

    I'm still needed in squads, I'm happy with my damage, people are happy with my support skills, I'm happy with the millions I make every day, I'm happy because I have low repair fee and don't need HP/MP food. Also, I only have a Herc, never wanted a Nix (I hate everything PVP related), and I don't feel useless at all.

    Venos are not needed??!! Then why do I see LF VENO + HERC on World chat in like every 30 seconds? You know what's not needed? Nix'd Venos. I've never seen anyone who wanted a Nix'd Veno on WC.

    /thread.
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  • Queenofpower - Dreamweaver
    Queenofpower - Dreamweaver Posts: 112 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Myalt - Raging Tide wrote: »
    WTF? This thread is a joke.

    I'm still needed in squads, I'm happy with my damage, people are happy with my support skills, I'm happy with the millions I make every day, I'm happy because I have low repair fee and don't need HP/MP food. Also, I only have a Herc, never wanted a Nix (I hate everything PVP related), and I don't feel useless at all.

    Venos are not needed??!! Then why do I see LF VENO + HERC on World chat in like every 30 seconds? You know what's not needed? Nix'd Venos. I've never seen anyone who wanted a Nix'd Veno on WC.

    /thread.


    ooo plz give us ur advice on how ur making millions...as long as it does not involve playing 10-15 hrs a day b:shocked or as long as ur not married to a 5 aps BM/Archer..... Aaaand i also see shouts for venos on world chat, but its mostly only for FC.....And those who do ask for veno for other stuff are wasting their own time....even though i am a veno i have to say that replacing veno with sin or BM is faster for almost every instance now....it is a fact that venos are no longer what they used to be in pwi...sheesh even veno skills seem to have the stupidest graphics...beyond level 100 its fun to do nirvana and delta or TT 3-2 , 3-3 and its in these instances that venos have lost all importance....soo boring to farm low level TTs ....
  • Borsuc - Raging Tide
    Borsuc - Raging Tide Posts: 1,526 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    I agree. And it's not just venos. Every single magic class in this game sucks in most dumb instances... except for clerics which are still needed sometimes. In fact, it may not be the magic classes that suck, it's the stupidly overpowered auto-attacking melee classes that do.

    And venos have it even easier than mages/psys. At least their pet deals full damage to [?] bosses and you can use auto-attack.
  • JRRigoz - Dreamweaver
    JRRigoz - Dreamweaver Posts: 36 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Hanieko - Harshlands wrote: »
    You won't be saying that when a Psychic takes your spot in the squad because of there healing spells..=l

    1. It won't happen...

    2. We'll still be called for one reason: Revivals.

    Sorry you can't find squads...But unless Psych's can rez...clerics will still have spots.
  • Amencat - Sanctuary
    Amencat - Sanctuary Posts: 484 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    hate those sh**ty zeal genies, they really crashed the littles tieniest piece of our work
    +1Mil to that!


    its true, venos are useless without herc as tank

    sins are overpowered pvp

    Devs suck with they lazy work on removing bugs

    just live with it, this suggestion wont reach the devs anyway
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  • KageYingZi - Heavens Tear
    KageYingZi - Heavens Tear Posts: 823 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Myalt - Raging Tide wrote: »
    WTF? This thread is a joke.

    I'm still needed in squads, I'm happy with my damage, people are happy with my support skills, I'm happy with the millions I make every day, I'm happy because I have low repair fee and don't need HP/MP food. Also, I only have a Herc, never wanted a Nix (I hate everything PVP related), and I don't feel useless at all.

    Venos are not needed??!! Then why do I see LF VENO + HERC on World chat in like every 30 seconds? You know what's not needed? Nix'd Venos. I've never seen anyone who wanted a Nix'd Veno on WC.
    /thread.

    Obvious fact.You just made yourself sound like some idiot.

    Edit:
    JRRigoz - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    1. It won't happen...

    2. We'll still be called for one reason: Revivals.

    Sorry you can't find squads...But unless Psych's can rez...clerics will still have spots.

    You missed out buffs,debuffs,RB and BB.
  • Queenofpower - Dreamweaver
    Queenofpower - Dreamweaver Posts: 112 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    I do like the Zeal Start skill......but removing it actually might help and the easiest way to give back the venos atleast one job they were usefull for....since am sure nobody will want to work too hard on helping bring back some balance ingame...
  • truekossy
    truekossy Posts: 7,021 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Nobody can pull as safely as a veno can. End of story.

    Let's see a zeal and it's 20m range pull a monster that's surrounded by adds from around a corner with zero risk of failure.


    Also, you seem to be forgetting about the fact that venos have amp, lending hand, the most self-sufficient grind style for PvE, and 3 different skills they can use to completely destroy an opponents defense. Oh and did I mention purge or the fact that venos are the most versatile class in the game stats-wise?
  • Vorhs - Lost City
    Vorhs - Lost City Posts: 521 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    LOL @ the OP

    WELCOME TO THE WIZARD WORLD!

    we never been useful for anything other than rebirth order b:surrender
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  • zerapo
    zerapo Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    truekossy wrote: »
    Nobody can pull as safely as a veno can. End of story.

    Let's see a zeal and it's 20m range pull a monster that's surrounded by adds from around a corner with zero risk of failure.


    Also, you seem to be forgetting about the fact that venos have amp, lending hand, the most self-sufficient grind style for PvE, and 3 different skills they can use to completely destroy an opponents defense. Oh and did I mention purge or the fact that venos are the most versatile class in the game stats-wise?


    I'll grow old here if i grind nirvana set....100+ its all abt nirvy and TT and Delta and Tw....though i hear herbing is good bussiness..... Tats my point, nobody needs lending hand or amp or Purge......BMs and sins are literally in permaspark now and Purge is usefull in tw only.....and lastly the zeal genie skill may not be "perfect" but its a good enuff excuse to get rid of veno and reduce squad size....Versatile yes......Jack of all Trades and Master of None...and omg now we arent even jacks in some areas b:sad
  • truekossy
    truekossy Posts: 7,021 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    zerapo wrote: »
    I'll grow old here if i grind nirvana set....100+ its all abt nirvy and TT and Delta and Tw....though i hear herbing is good bussiness..... Tats my point, nobody needs lending hand or amp or Purge......BMs and sins are literally in permaspark now and Purge is usefull in tw only.....and lastly the zeal genie skill may not be "perfect" but its a good enuff excuse to get rid of veno and reduce squad size....Versatile yes......Jack of all Trades and Master of None...and omg now we arent even jacks in some areas b:sad

    Nirvana: All casters have that issue. You don't even need a cleric for it if you have an assassin who has enough $$ in there. Unlike other casters, however, venos can go heavy/robe and focus on -interval which, when combined with melee mastery in fox form, will lead to quite a useful amount of DPS.
    TT: If you're talking purely profit runs, it's the same as above. However venos still have an advantage over most in that they can safely pull, they can tank, and their debuffs are a major help.
    Delta: News flash, venos weren't exactly one of the more useful rebirth classes even beforehand. I love nova as much as the next guy but venos have always been the first class to be replaced in rebirth.
    TW: If you think venos need a boost here then you're doing something wrong.

    If you think purge is only useful in TW, then you've probably never done a 2-2, general PK, or some of the high-end instances where purge makes life FAR easier. As for your last few statements... I'm sorry but if you really believe that then you're just showing your inexperience with the class.
  • zerapo
    zerapo Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    truekossy wrote: »
    Nirvana: All casters have that issue. You don't even need a cleric for it if you have an assassin who has enough $$ in there. Unlike other casters, however, venos can go heavy/robe and focus on -interval which, when combined with melee mastery in fox form, will lead to quite a useful amount of DPS.
    TT: If you're talking purely profit runs, it's the same as above. However venos still have an advantage over most in that they can safely pull, they can tank, and their debuffs are a major help.
    Delta: News flash, venos weren't exactly one of the more useful rebirth classes even beforehand. I love nova as much as the next guy but venos have always been the first class to be replaced in rebirth.
    TW: If you think venos need a boost here then you're doing something wrong.

    If you think purge is only useful in TW, then you've probably never done a 2-2, general PK, or some of the high-end instances where purge makes life FAR easier. As for your last few statements... I'm sorry but if you really believe that then you're just showing your inexperience with the class.


    My dear wat all u have said shows ur living in the past.....wat i am trying to say is that it is no longer economical to use a veno....Y make a veno who takes 2 hrs to do a TT when a BM can do it in 25 mins. TW i never said anything abt it....Veno with nix pwns and ourge ofcourse. Delta they were less usefull...now useless....all casters may have a problem in nirvana yes...i was concerned abt venos so i am writing abt it. And Omg do u know the cost of making a - int veno....its complicated and can be more expensive than - int BM....The point is Venomancer class no longer has the attraction it used to have. Many i know now use their venos as Alts (formerly mains) and now use Fist BM/Archer......and wat high end instance becomes "FAR EASIER" with purge Lol......all we need now is +10 Striking Dragon or Decides.....

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