Why 2 nien events and only one celestial ?

Docteur - Dreamweaver
Docteur - Dreamweaver Posts: 1 Arc User
edited August 2010 in General Discussion
Making your celestial event at 9pm only = 2am or 3am for european people.

With the nien at 4pm we had a chance, now it isnt even a question about cash or packs or anything relating to money, just you're forgetting a whole continent.

Why don't just make another event @ 4pm again ?
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  • RainKilganon - Lost City
    RainKilganon - Lost City Posts: 112 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Wow, this is TWO of these threads in one night, while a huge one is on second page. Is this a new record?
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  • Kaenor - Heavens Tear
    Kaenor - Heavens Tear Posts: 173 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    new record on pissing off eu peoples...

    Nothing new.
  • Kai_Umi - Heavens Tear
    Kai_Umi - Heavens Tear Posts: 265 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Coz it s not PW"International" or else we don t have the same definition...
  • MistaBwanden - Sanctuary
    MistaBwanden - Sanctuary Posts: 2,803 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    It's this thread again...
    It's Perfect World INTERNATIONAL. Not GLOBAL.
    Get it straight, kids.
    Also, use the search function.
  • Kaenor - Heavens Tear
    Kaenor - Heavens Tear Posts: 173 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Yeah, use the search function Sir on closed or deleted threads. Another good sign to they listen our opinions.

    /off dont mocking me please with this "kids" thingie, if you aren't concerned with OP, please don't troll here
  • Kai_Umi - Heavens Tear
    Kai_Umi - Heavens Tear Posts: 265 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    It's this thread again...
    It's Perfect World INTERNATIONAL. Not GLOBAL.
    Get it straight, kids.
    Also, use the search function.

    Still international is more than just pacific time country ijs...it s well known that there is a good amount of players who live in europe, and europe isn t pacific time. They just keep ignoring those player.
    And this thread is about event time set up precisely and the reason why there is only one time the event per day, not just a whole mess about THE NEW EVENT IN GENERAL, so ok use the search option if you want but there is no need there...
  • RainKilganon - Lost City
    RainKilganon - Lost City Posts: 112 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Can't believe I have to spell this out. GO TO PAGE 2 OF THIS SECTION. LOOK FOR THE THREAD ABOUT THE EVENT TIME.

    There, was that so hard?

    Again, as has been stated thousands of times, International=More than one country. North America = THREE countries. That is why it is international. The game is built for North American gamers. Event times are based on server times, and servers are NORTH AMERICAN.

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  • Kaenor - Heavens Tear
    Kaenor - Heavens Tear Posts: 173 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Before someone starting to notice us another versions, please read this:
    19. No discussion about competing MMORPG's (including other versions of PW) and other similar games on these boards.

    I'm not speaking about whitch region will be supported by PWE, we only ask why don't implemented the second time bracket on these new event. I'm fully understand this event-content fit for North American timezones, just they can change it to give opportunities those peoples to participate regarding on time zone differencies. Small change, and everyone will be happy.
    Thanks
  • Foxgrit - Lost City
    Foxgrit - Lost City Posts: 421 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Still international is more than just pacific time country ijs...it s well known that there is a good amount of players who live in europe, and europe isn t pacific time. They just keep ignoring those player.
    And this thread is about event time set up precisely and the reason why there is only one time the event per day, not just a whole mess about THE NEW EVENT IN GENERAL, so ok use the search option if you want but there is no need there...


    You are on a west coast server. That was your choice when you started. You could have joined an east coast server but you chose not to. International is dealing with 2 or more countries. Do a little searching and you will find that their goal is to provide service to NORTH AMERICA. There are more than 2 countries in NORTH AMERICA thus international. They also state that they do not block players from other regions of the world but the game has been optimized for NORTH AMERICAN players. You chose to accept this fact when you started playing. You could have chosen a different version of the same game but you chose this one that is based out of and is optimized solely for NORTH AMERICA...DEAL WITH IT OR QUIT.
  • I_Snipe - Lost City
    I_Snipe - Lost City Posts: 451 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    You are on a west coast server. That was your choice when you started. You could have joined an east coast server but you chose not to. International is dealing with 2 or more countries. Do a little searching and you will find that their goal is to provide service to NORTH AMERICA. There are more than 2 countries in NORTH AMERICA thus international. They also state that they do not block players from other regions of the world but the game has been optimized for NORTH AMERICAN players. You chose to accept this fact when you started playing. You could have chosen a different version of the same game but you chose this one that is based out of and is optimized solely for NORTH AMERICA...DEAL WITH IT OR QUIT.

    i like this. b:victory
    though i do think Euro should get their own version so we can stop seeing the time difference QQ's. it has been suggested somewhere...
  • WnbTank - Archosaur
    WnbTank - Archosaur Posts: 1,472 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Meh, they could actually put another event for time that is aimed for european players, would prolly make changes on top player lists as time zones are still so different. So put it like 8 7-9pm GMT, that would make it around noon pacific time. That would make rewards to larger portion of players and not get stacked to same few like on nien event. If they gonna add another event to like 4pm server time, same players could enter both and it will just mess economy a bit more, I rather see only one event if it`s not made to so different time zone that only quite few ppl can enter both(not counting weekends). But yeah, I just see no point for another event if ppl can easily attend both, the rewards will be going to selected few. making the event distribute kinda unfair wealth.

    Ps. FYI, I was one of those who made fortune with nien event, it`s just prolly not the way the game should be run.
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  • whantplay2
    whantplay2 Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    You could have chosen a different version of the same game
    Yeah a different version of PW that dont have Tideborn, dont have New event and a different version with (big hght price into item shop (MS) or little price into item shop (MY)).

    And the funny thing is that Cubizone (MyENG) and GameMaster (MS) buy license from PW Beiji (Chinese version).
    PW International is branch of PW Beiji (^_^'' treacherous competition ).

    Now PW is only 1 game with different managers-clients, and internet is a free big nation without any international limit or border line.

    But no...more americans people hate that european people ask into forum 2 time event for Celestial, Dragon palace, Forest Ruins and Abomination.


    I like think that PW Int is for PW Int-elligent, not for strange international border reason.


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  • Telarith - Sanctuary
    Telarith - Sanctuary Posts: 1,417 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    What were the terms under which PW:E got their license? Because that may play a big factor, if EU players are such a big part of PWI as everyone in these threads like to be.

    Having it allowable to other countries, but optimized for their target franchise area can bypass many legal arguements; they aren't poaching EU players, it's just the EU managers suck so badly everyone went somewhere else for business.

    But setting timezones that are obviously targeted for EU just seems like it would blatantly violate the franchise the EU section holds, and allow them a good lawsuit case. This could be a reason pretty easily.
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  • Shogum - Heavens Tear
    Shogum - Heavens Tear Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    If you look for definition Inernational you find that it isn't definition of AMERICA (north too) time zone, so If it is Perfect World International deal with it and act like ones. Other PW games call them selves CN, EU, MY also all world can play in these servers as far as I know, at least in most of them. I fully agree that if game would be called PWAmerica or something to define time zone of playesr all that I'm talking won't make any sense.

    Since servers r in America and majority of players r from America time zone or similar and it is imposible to make all happy for TW's so this question isn't pointed now. but making events few dimes a day it isn't so hard for sure.

    snake Isle race have few times, also as its tolt one player can participate only once a day in race. why it is imposible to do some races awailable for other players too and other events also.

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  • Kupuntu - Sanctuary
    Kupuntu - Sanctuary Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    If you look for definition Inernational you find that it isn't definition of AMERICA (north too) time zone, so If it is Perfect World International deal with it and act like ones. Other PW games call them selves CN, EU, MY also all world can play in these servers as far as I know, at least in most of them. I fully agree that if game would be called PWAmerica or something to define time zone of playesr all that I'm talking won't make any sense.

    Since servers r in America and majority of players r from America time zone or similar and it is imposible to make all happy for TW's so this question isn't pointed now. but making events few dimes a day it isn't so hard for sure.

    snake Isle race have few times, also as its tolt one player can participate only once a day in race. why it is imposible to do some races awailable for other players too and other events also.

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  • Chillum - Dreamweaver
    Chillum - Dreamweaver Posts: 887 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Regarding the whole thing about international, the only thing I would say about this is that if PWI take the money of European based players, they are obligated to at least listen to their needs.

    Not saying that they have to prioritise them over their main customer base in North America.

    Personally speaking, I don't think a compromise of holding 2 of these weekday events (Nien Beast, Jungle Ruins, City of Abominations, Dragon Temple etc) at different times is too much to ask.

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  • TigerLily - Lost City
    TigerLily - Lost City Posts: 1,209 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    They cant really have 2 Tiger events since the rewards for NR 1 can be pretty ridiculous like Lunar Ornament/10 raptures b:shocked

    Than same people would win 2 events instead of one each week. Yay 2 Lunar ornaments in 1 day b:chuckle. I mean we all know its always the same guys that wins, always same people at spot 1-5 etc lol.

    I do wish event was earlier to, sucks for Europeans. Have to set alarm clock 5-6 in the morning to attend an event in a videogame - like who even bothers doing that more than once b:chuckle.

    But really nothing you can do about it since its a west cost server. I would gladly switch all my chars to a east coast server if it was possible Q_Q. To bad Harshland sucks anyway and transfer accounts to other servers are impossible. We just have to accept it unless we wanna start all over.
  • Chillum - Dreamweaver
    Chillum - Dreamweaver Posts: 887 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    They cant really have 2 Tiger events since the rewards for NR 1 can be pretty ridiculous like Lunar Ornament/10 raptures b:shocked

    Than same people would win 2 events instead of one each week. Yay 2 Lunar ornaments in 1 day b:chuckle. I mean we all know its always the same guys that wins, always same people at spot 1-5 etc lol.

    I do wish event was earlier to, sucks for Europeans. Have to set alarm clock 5-6 in the morning to attend an event in a videogame - like who even bothers doing that more than once b:chuckle.

    But really nothing you can do about it since its a west cost server. I would gladly switch all my chars to a east coast server if it was possible Q_Q. To bad Harshland sucks anyway and transfer accounts to other servers are impossible. We just have to accept it unless we wanna start all over.

    Yeah, I appreciate that point you make regarding potentially increasing the amount of these "rare" items in game and how certain players dominate these events.

    Guess that is the balance that needs to be struck. Being fair to your player base, reward, time, effort etc.

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  • Longknife - Harshlands
    Longknife - Harshlands Posts: 4,843 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    European players: No matter what time they set, there will ALWAYS be somewhere in the world complaining about how inconvenient the time is for them. Events aren't twice a day probably for economical reasons (more economical imbalance, rare items stop being rare, etc.). Only legit complaint I wanna see is why don't they mix up the times a bit: why not Celestial Tiger at 5pm, Jungle Ruins at 8pm, City of Abominations at 10pm and the Tournament at 3pm? That'd at least give some variety and give everyone a chance...
    Arguing that ALL events need to be set to a European time though, just isn't reasonable. So let's just hear some different ideas and try to keep this issue to one thread: one big thread is probably more likely to get GM attention than a bunch of tiny ones.


    American players:
    Stop being such selfish inconsiderate dickholes. "You don't like that you can't participate? Then gtfo. Quit the game it's our fkn game; not yours." That's your solution? You tell them to f*** off? Aren't the forum-goers always complaining about the GM's/dev's service? If a GM or dev said "if you don't like it then gtfo" then you'd all be crying 'bloody murder' and be labeling them the rudest, most hateful MMO company ever.
    See this is why the rest of the world hates you. If these were set at 5pm European time (like 11am US-time) you all would be QQing too, so why so inconsiderate? Let them complain, say any counter-arguments you feel neccesary, but all this "gtfo then" BS or the arguments where you recite "international" from the dictionary are stupid. The point is that they're paying customers too and they're requesting equal recognition with events. While it may not be possible to recognize both the US customer-base and the EU customer base, they at least have the right to have their opinions and ideas heard without all this "QQ more" bullcrap.
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  • Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear
    Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,864 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    European players: No matter what time they set, there will ALWAYS be somewhere in the world complaining about how inconvenient the time is for them. Events aren't twice a day probably for economical reasons (more economical imbalance, rare items stop being rare, etc.). Only legit complaint I wanna see is why don't they mix up the times a bit: why not Celestial Tiger at 5pm, Jungle Ruins at 8pm, City of Abominations at 10pm and the Tournament at 3pm? That'd at least give some variety and give everyone a chance...
    Arguing that ALL events need to be set to a European time though, just isn't reasonable. So let's just hear some different ideas and try to keep this issue to one thread: one big thread is probably more likely to get GM attention than a bunch of tiny ones.


    American players:
    Stop being such selfish inconsiderate dickholes. "You don't like that you can't participate? Then gtfo. Quit the game it's our fkn game; not yours." That's your solution? You tell them to f*** off? Aren't the forum-goers always complaining about the GM's/dev's service? If a GM or dev said "if you don't like it then gtfo" then you'd all be crying 'bloody murder' and be labeling them the rudest, most hateful MMO company ever.
    See this is why the rest of the world hates you. If these were set at 5pm European time (like 11am US-time) you all would be QQing too, so why so inconsiderate? Let them complain, say any counter-arguments you feel neccesary, but all this "gtfo then" BS or the arguments where you recite "international" from the dictionary are stupid. The point is that they're paying customers too and they're requesting equal recognition with events. While it may not be possible to recognize both the US customer-base and the EU customer base, they at least have the right to have their opinions and ideas heard without all this "QQ more" bullcrap.

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  • truekossy
    truekossy Posts: 7,021 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    To all those wanting PWI to cater to EU, click this and read, then stop asking.
  • RainKilganon - Lost City
    RainKilganon - Lost City Posts: 112 Arc User
    edited August 2010

    American players:
    Stop being such selfish inconsiderate dickholes. "You don't like that you can't participate? Then gtfo. Quit the game it's our fkn game; not yours." That's your solution? You tell them to f*** off? Aren't the forum-goers always complaining about the GM's/dev's service? If a GM or dev said "if you don't like it then gtfo" then you'd all be crying 'bloody murder' and be labeling them the rudest, most hateful MMO company ever.
    See this is why the rest of the world hates you. If these were set at 5pm European time (like 11am US-time) you all would be QQing too, so why so inconsiderate? Let them complain, say any counter-arguments you feel neccesary, but all this "gtfo then" BS or the arguments where you recite "international" from the dictionary are stupid. The point is that they're paying customers too and they're requesting equal recognition with events. While it may not be possible to recognize both the US customer-base and the EU customer base, they at least have the right to have their opinions and ideas heard without all this "QQ more" bullcrap.


    Ok, im gonna address this from my viewpoint. Cant really speak for the rest, but i will assume alot of them are the same. Its not so much the European events thing as it is seeing this thread EVERY WEEK, sometimes more than that. There are SOOOOOO many other things that need fixed in this game, and adding more events to the game so that people outside the specifications of the game have it their way as well is no where near the top of what needs done. To the ones that say "we buy gold too, throw us a bone", since the hell when does PWE care about who gives them money? We all give them money and STILL nothing gets fixed.

    And the part that does get me, and alot of us REALLY riled up is the international thing. We usually dont start giving the "dictionary" quotes until someone throws in that International means the whole world apparently. Even when in the TOS itself, it states that the game is North American optimized. Its like if PWI was European based, and me coming in here and QQing that 'Europe isnt international'. I wanna see how any European act if I say that. Its the same here, like it or not, "North America" isnt one nation.

    Just my 2 cents.
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  • Quinnie - Heavens Tear
    Quinnie - Heavens Tear Posts: 314 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    You are on a west coast server. That was your choice when you started. You could have joined an east coast server but you chose not to. International is dealing with 2 or more countries. Do a little searching and you will find that their goal is to provide service to NORTH AMERICA. There are more than 2 countries in NORTH AMERICA thus international. They also state that they do not block players from other regions of the world but the game has been optimized for NORTH AMERICAN players. You chose to accept this fact when you started playing. You could have chosen a different version of the same game but you chose this one that is based out of and is optimized solely for NORTH AMERICA...DEAL WITH IT OR QUIT.

    i find it funny how some ppl post without thinking about their post first.
    if u want every1 that isnt american to quit pwi then pwi will lose 50%~75% of the money they gain. there more ppl from other continents playing pwi then americans.

    and personally i dont rly dislike the event times, just go to bed bit earlier or dont get drunk every weekend.
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  • NightRage - Raging Tide
    NightRage - Raging Tide Posts: 1,582 Arc User
    edited August 2010
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    You know why European players don't get events slotted to their timezone? Because you guys don't search before posting, and this is your punishment.
  • NightRage - Raging Tide
    NightRage - Raging Tide Posts: 1,582 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    i find it funny how some ppl post without thinking about their post first.
    if u want every1 that isnt american to quit pwi then pwi will lose 50%~75% of the money they gain. there more ppl from other continents playing pwi then americans.

    and personally i dont rly dislike the event times, just go to bed bit earlier or dont get drunk every weekend.

    Quit pulling bull**** statistics out of your ****, it makes you look dumb.
  • Shogum - Heavens Tear
    Shogum - Heavens Tear Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Personaly for me 5-6am to set timer isn't a problem. But for me events starts about 7am when I have to leave for work. Sry but I won't quit my job for event.

    About B**** that 2 events mean 2x rare items and bla bla bla.... Items received from events r random, don't think GM's can't reduce rare item chance to balance their amount on server plus for Nien beast there were 2 events a day, and none was QQing about it.


    for TW times as I made my statement before, they can be as they are. Not everyone is participating in them, and they mostly are on weekends anyway. for Events is other thing.
  • WnbTank - Archosaur
    WnbTank - Archosaur Posts: 1,472 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Personaly for me 5-6am to set timer isn't a problem. But for me events starts about 7am when I have to leave for work. Sry but I won't quit my job for event.

    About B**** that 2 events mean 2x rare items and bla bla bla.... Items received from events r random, don't think GM's can't reduce rare item chance to balance their amount on server plus for Nien beast there were 2 events a day, and none was QQing about it.


    for TW times as I made my statement before, they can be as they are. Not everyone is participating in them, and they mostly are on weekends anyway. for Events is other thing.

    If that event would be on weekend, no prob, now it`s during week, participating would make me be late at school, not really an option. And yes, I myself do understand what I signed up for when I started play game where player base is north american based, at least it`s targeted for em. But seriously, if they do add another event "American based", they should make it that only 1 event/day, would be ridiculous if not.

    Ps. Ppl who say "go to play the EU licensed", go seriously try that **** before suggesting.
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  • Kaenor - Heavens Tear
    Kaenor - Heavens Tear Posts: 173 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Thanks Longknife. You had the only reasonable answer, what i got from this thread. Sadly, peoples thinks some have more rights, because the servers are in their country.
    I understand this economical unbalance fact too, but just look around. Check 10 mill notes and think again. Check the rare equips from packs, and think again.

    Thanks Truekossy the link, thats explain everything, sorry for my ignorance about this.

    Few options about waking early don't working for me (work related), so i tend to not participate this events. PWE maybe reconsider later, if that so called "euro version" sink it forever.
  • anwynd
    anwynd Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    plenty of people have given reasonable answers in all these dam threads stop trying to make your self look like a victim you chose to play an american based game tht is set for most if not all american players just becus they let you play the game doesnt mean you have the right to have times set for your specific time zone i dont mind you expressing your opinions but seriously need to stop spamming & keep this in atleast 1 or 2 threads k thnks b:victory
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  • DrDrakken - Lost City
    DrDrakken - Lost City Posts: 227 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    For the economy imbalance part: This could be avoided by making the events only doable once a day like cube <_<
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