Valid build?

Hurin - Raging Tide
Hurin - Raging Tide Posts: 24 Arc User
edited August 2010 in Venomancer
Hey, I'm new to the veno class, just lvling one durring 2x week for fun, but if I like it, I might keep it.

Should I keep it, this is the build I'm shooting for, is it valid? Should I change anything? I'm hoping for good survivability, some fox-form fun, and not dying in PvP and TW [not that anyone does TW since the update...lawl b:surrender]

http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=e0aa73ed0fe8e378

thanks for any advice :)

oh, and can a, lets say lvl65, veno with roughly this build and a glacial walker or some such solo TT 1-1? Or do you really need a herc for that?


P.S. should I just get some more snow hare eggs and make an all-class? or is it a valid pet? I haven't used it long enough to know...or is it like blademasters, whatever you use can be valid if you know what you're doing, but this is the "best"?
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  • Kieran - Dreamweaver
    Kieran - Dreamweaver Posts: 53 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    I wouldn't recommentf using this build the way you have it - using lvl 31-40 equips at lvl 90 does not seem like a very good idea. If you want to go for heavy armor build you should probably keep your mag at minimum required for weapon (e.g. ~3xlevel), no vit added (or even vit restated to 3) and use the rest of the points to up your str and dex so that you can wear a better heavy armor (at the same time your int will alow you to wear robes where mag def is needed...)

    As far as items go ther is a few things to look for:
    Requiem blade (89 mold magic sword) gives you alot more usefull stats (11 each if lucky) that help a lot wiht HA build
    You should probably look into getting the mogwai belt as quest reward since that has evne more stats that will come usefull (~lvl 87 quest reward IIRC)
    A tome with mixed stats (e.g. str/dex tome) would give you more points than pure str tome of same level.
    You might have to sacrifice the two rings for ones with stats (str/dex/mag) - you get the needed accuracy from fox form bonus so misty forest ring seems unneccesary - especialyl if you get some more dex to satisfy higher level HA armor requirements. You should look in to magic rings mostly anyway.


    As far as soloing 1-1 @ 65 - you might be able to do chin if you get lucky tho probably even a little bit of lag will likely get your walker killed. No chance on 1-1 drummer with 65 walker.

    I haven't used snow hares as a pet much but based on stats it seems to be more of cute thing to have running after you...there are pets that will work a lot better in the long run. I personally just sell any snowhare eggs I get as veno pet eggs...don't tihnk it is worht it to even make an 'AC pet out of them anymore.
  • Hurin - Raging Tide
    Hurin - Raging Tide Posts: 24 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    ok, so wait till like 70 to do Chin safely, and for drummer, need herc. thanks!

    yeah, I was thinking something like that. The skills are interesting, but not really useful, and while it has excellent magic defense and accuracy, it's damage is like a vit barb and it's survivability is like an un-sharded wizie.
  • Mayfly - Dreamweaver
    Mayfly - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,094 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Keep your eye on the auction house for -req heavy armor near or slightly above your level, and +str/+mag/+dex (but mostly +str) ornaments/hats/robes. My HA/AA veno lucked out and found a pair of level 8 boots that had both -10% req and -15% req.

    At 65 (even below that) you can do single mode 1-1. I think I read a walker can solo 1-1 squad mode at 83.
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  • Hurin - Raging Tide
    Hurin - Raging Tide Posts: 24 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    but really, this would be a more sensible and "normal" build? I guess you don't lose ALL that much from pdef, and that is made up for in HP from being able to shard with higher lvl gems.

    http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=b674519cb219bb17
  • Vixter - Harshlands
    Vixter - Harshlands Posts: 1,275 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    lol .. i cant stop laughing
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  • Hurin - Raging Tide
    Hurin - Raging Tide Posts: 24 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    yeah, as said in the OP, I'm new to the class, and I COMPLETELY don't understand most of it. Hence, this thread.
  • Mystic-Night - Heavens Tear
    Mystic-Night - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,619 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    No..it's not that you don't understand anything about this class
    It's that you don't understand anything about this game..
    If you were serious about those 2 character builds..

    again /facepalm
  • xxxdsmer
    xxxdsmer Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    i cant look at any of the pwcalc links, seems the site's down, but it would take ALOT of str/dex/mag from ornaments, cape, helm, tome, n mby wpn to make a HA build actually work properly.

    last time i counted i was up to 60+ str/dex/mag from equipment bonuses alone, and i still dont have enough extra points to wear new things right at their lvls, i have to wait 1-2 lvls to get, for example, my hh80 set on.

    the build i, and many others, would reccomend... considering you would also like to use foxform, which involves melee hits... would be light armor build with 5 vit, str and dex = your level +4, and the rest to mag. then you'd easily always be able to wear current armors and weapons and not have to worry about getting statpoints from equipment, and messing up a point to where your stuff wont work till the next level lol
    i'm pro all classes, and against none in particular..
    but the age old QQ about venos is just that. OLD.
    QQ'd about a nix lately? check out this thread n tell me who's "OP" lol..
    (copy and paste this to address bar):
    pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=102172
  • Ms_HopToIt - Sanctuary
    Ms_HopToIt - Sanctuary Posts: 914 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Its does seem like the pwi calc is down, but as an HA veno, ill post some screen shots of my current build.

    my build definately isnt the best, theres alot of work to be done, like switch p def ortaments for m def ortaments, but it's more than enough to achieve the HA build at lvl 90.

    I didnt take the time out to find a squad for buffs, so you're only seeing my unbuffed stats

    human form http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/8165/sssvf.png
    fox form http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/6231/zzzef.png

    Equips in order: neclkace, cape, tome, sleeves, belt, ring 1, ring 2, helmet, plate, leggings, footwear, and weapon.
    http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/1948/neckv.png
    http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/7062/capep.png
    http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/8375/tome.png
    http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/3760/sleeves.png
    http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/1295/beltl.png
    http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/7241/ring1i.png
    http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/5679/ring2dy.png
    http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/198/helmeta.png
    http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/6306/plate.png
    http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/7858/leggings.png
    http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/8462/footwear.png
    http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/7677/weapon.png

    None of these items were that hard to get, except for the cape maybe, but it's easier to obtain than the capes from the packs. I only restatted at lvl 90, then went a on a break (why i havent done much lately). If you want to try out foxform, I would recommend following the LA build, as its good for testing out foxform. This is the build i followed before my current build. If you feel like still using foxform, and not just for amping and purging, Then I'd suggest restatting to HA when you feel ready to, but just remember you have to keep an eye on +stat ortaments you might need. The later the lvl, the easier those stats are to obtain. Everything i have, I planned from lvl 80. So all in all, it took around 1-2 months to get it all, refined sharded, everything.
    >.<