We need to talk PWI
Egaenil - Heavens Tear
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All the recent changes upset me a lot, and TBH I feel like us, PWI is getting the **** end of the deal from PWE, so I asked few players who have connection with pw-cn, and did some dig around to see the difference between the two version, here are some interesting findings, I will list them one by one and some comments. I can only post this time, coz mod of gm will just quickly remove all these.
Packs:
PW-CN: no longer have those, reason for this, is the Chinese government banned any sort of activity in online games that has gambling nature in it.
PWI: still going on... and will go on for a long time.
The new auction was introduced into PW-CN so that instead of opening packs, you can buy what you need, and see what you getting them and make money for PW-CN, that’s all good, but why PWI!! I mean, we got packs and we now have auction hall too now.
BOTS:
PW-CN: A lot, the so called WG (game cheat) is everywhere in PW-CN, 50% lvl 100 got there using bots to afk (I can’t be sure as my Chinese friend told me that, but yea)
PWI: Hardly any, a year ago I saw few people using them to grind, I just report to gm, or lure mobs to them, that was simple. These days... I don’t see anyone.
In effort to kill off BOTS pw-cn cut down the price of DQ, so afk botting to farm items for money is no longer worth it. We HAVE to HAVE it coz pw-cn has it; we have to pay the price for pw-can’s fault.
HAX:
PW-CN: door hax, flying in TT hax, walking on wall hax, from the info I have now, yes there are a lot of people using those.
PWI: TBH I never ever see any major hax here at all, but I am not that overly active these days so I can’t be sure. But I would assume hardly any if there ever are some.
To prevent hax pw-cn give us 4hrs limit also bosses in tt and fb69 and so on will go zerk if you don’t kill enough mobs. Once again same as DQ price, what have we pwi done....
Multi Clients & issue with it:
PW-CN: One can have up to 6 clients running, it is allowed. Yes you read it right, SIX clients.
PWI: One client per physical machine.
This is especially true for nirv runs in pw-cn, so we to solve this? All boss seal and random aggro. Now to pwi, look at gears crossed the entire sever... honestly PWE ask yourself!! Are we as well geared as pw-cn? Do we have 10-20 warsoul per sever as PW-CN, do we have 50+ rank8 per sever?
Mod game files to look good:
PW-CN: common practise... god tide born looks so bad, and look how skinny those avatar look in pw-cn
PWI: BANNED, how I know it? One of my friends got banned.
Selling in game coins/items for rl cash (like 2nd life):
PW-CN: it is officially supported
PWI: BANNED
So what we have here is something really strange, we have every bad things pw-cn and more (bidding halls, DQ prices, tw system, nirv), and nothing good (trade items for rl cash, multi client, mod client)
And finally just few things I feel like need to be cleared before they drive me totally insane
1: Fist/Claw will not limited to BM ONLY
2: 10 men team, no news about it AT ALL, just rumour.
3: rank9 = 6 armour piece 75% cost of warsoul, weapon is +30 attack lvl with zerk for bm/barb/sin, adv soul shatter for archer, -10% chan for wiz, +attack for cleric, +def for veno. Require tokens and 3 tw badges. R9 contain 6 pieces to have set bonus, for 6 you have 65 attack lvl +1% cri +20 def lvl.
Packs:
PW-CN: no longer have those, reason for this, is the Chinese government banned any sort of activity in online games that has gambling nature in it.
PWI: still going on... and will go on for a long time.
The new auction was introduced into PW-CN so that instead of opening packs, you can buy what you need, and see what you getting them and make money for PW-CN, that’s all good, but why PWI!! I mean, we got packs and we now have auction hall too now.
BOTS:
PW-CN: A lot, the so called WG (game cheat) is everywhere in PW-CN, 50% lvl 100 got there using bots to afk (I can’t be sure as my Chinese friend told me that, but yea)
PWI: Hardly any, a year ago I saw few people using them to grind, I just report to gm, or lure mobs to them, that was simple. These days... I don’t see anyone.
In effort to kill off BOTS pw-cn cut down the price of DQ, so afk botting to farm items for money is no longer worth it. We HAVE to HAVE it coz pw-cn has it; we have to pay the price for pw-can’s fault.
HAX:
PW-CN: door hax, flying in TT hax, walking on wall hax, from the info I have now, yes there are a lot of people using those.
PWI: TBH I never ever see any major hax here at all, but I am not that overly active these days so I can’t be sure. But I would assume hardly any if there ever are some.
To prevent hax pw-cn give us 4hrs limit also bosses in tt and fb69 and so on will go zerk if you don’t kill enough mobs. Once again same as DQ price, what have we pwi done....
Multi Clients & issue with it:
PW-CN: One can have up to 6 clients running, it is allowed. Yes you read it right, SIX clients.
PWI: One client per physical machine.
This is especially true for nirv runs in pw-cn, so we to solve this? All boss seal and random aggro. Now to pwi, look at gears crossed the entire sever... honestly PWE ask yourself!! Are we as well geared as pw-cn? Do we have 10-20 warsoul per sever as PW-CN, do we have 50+ rank8 per sever?
Mod game files to look good:
PW-CN: common practise... god tide born looks so bad, and look how skinny those avatar look in pw-cn
PWI: BANNED, how I know it? One of my friends got banned.
Selling in game coins/items for rl cash (like 2nd life):
PW-CN: it is officially supported
PWI: BANNED
So what we have here is something really strange, we have every bad things pw-cn and more (bidding halls, DQ prices, tw system, nirv), and nothing good (trade items for rl cash, multi client, mod client)
And finally just few things I feel like need to be cleared before they drive me totally insane
1: Fist/Claw will not limited to BM ONLY
2: 10 men team, no news about it AT ALL, just rumour.
3: rank9 = 6 armour piece 75% cost of warsoul, weapon is +30 attack lvl with zerk for bm/barb/sin, adv soul shatter for archer, -10% chan for wiz, +attack for cleric, +def for veno. Require tokens and 3 tw badges. R9 contain 6 pieces to have set bonus, for 6 you have 65 attack lvl +1% cri +20 def lvl.
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]"wink wink"
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QQ wont let me post using fire fox GGRRR[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]"wink wink"0
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Egaenil - Heavens Tear wrote: »Multi Clients & issue with it:
PW-CN: One can have up to 6 clients running, it is allowed. Yes you read it right, SIX clients.
Yeah well there's almost 6x as many Chinese as there are Americans, so this makes sense.HAX:
PW-CN: door hax, flying in TT hax, walking on wall hax, from the info I have now, yes there are a lot of people using those.
...The hell??
Barb: Cleric I need more heals, I'm gonna drop soon!
Cleric: I'm healing as much as I can! The DD's are just gonna have to take out the boss, and quick!
Archer: Don't worry folks, I've got a secret weapon!
Cleric: :O!! What is it, super awesome party-mate?
Archer: I'm going to WALK ON WALLS. -does-
Barb: ....
Wiz: Terry, get the f*** down from there and help us kill this boss! 'The hell do you think you're doing...
That **** right there tells me the Chinese have too much time on their hands.I AGOREY0 -
No gambling in MMO's in China huh?
I've heard about this before but how does this work out?
There's enough gambling even without packs (like refining for instance), or does it only pertain to gambling online with real money?[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
It's a second hand game ( a hand me down) what'd you expect. Though it is really frustrating I mean hell they get a built in bot on most games just like JDI can see what you see not,
Vision milky, then eyes rot.
When you turn, they will be gone,
Whispering their hidden song.
Then you see what cannot be,
Shadows move where light should be.
Out of darkness, out of mind,
Cast down into the Halls of the Blind.0 -
there suppose be a section of wall you can climb up to, like in 2-3, but i mean every1 knows about it now. source saying, you climb the wall.. so you walking like above all the mobs.. like how in 3-x you can fall thru the floor and look up you see all the mobs? well it's similar, but this time you climb the wall and walk on the ceilling, not every1 can be like sin blink your way up, but everyone can fall down XD[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]"wink wink"0
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Egaenil - Heavens Tear wrote: »Packs:
PW-CN: no longer have those, reason for this, is the Chinese government banned any sort of activity in online games that has gambling nature in it.
...is that so?...
{takes notes}[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Heaven's Tear alts: KenLubin, Sou_Hon, JudyCaraco --- level 5x chars.0 -
Hmm
So if this is true then PWI GMs have been lying to us this entire time no?
GMs, I thought we had to have everything like PW-CN?0 -
Egaenil - Heavens Tear wrote: »2: 10 men team, no news about it AT ALL, just rumour.
Actually that was mentioned in a content update preview on the official PW-CN site. Expect it to hit about the same time the unannounced classes are announced.I post in forums. This one and others. That's why I post.0 -
Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear wrote: »No gambling in MMO's in China huh?
I've heard about this before but how does this work out?
There's enough gambling even without packs (like refining for instance), or does it only pertain to gambling online with real money?
I assume it is that two best of luck tokens can be traded for a 10 million coin bank note. Since you are allowed to sell coin for real money in their version of the game you can buy packs as a form of gambling (since if you get enough best of luck tokens the bank notes will be worth more than you spent on packs).
I really wish they would remove the ability to trade best of luck tokens for bank notes (or at least increase the number of best of luck tokens to more than two). There are plenty of things best of luck tokens can be traded for. There is no need to have bank notes even be an option. It just causes inflation and ruins our economy. With all the changes they have made to help with inflation (such are reduced DQ prices and the changes to TW) it would be really nice if they would make this change as well.0 -
HYPER STONES:
Work in FF here, but not there.
+1 for us I guess.0 -
oh yea we also get horse race daily and they dont!! YAY go us!! now we should be a lot happier[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]"wink wink"0
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Egaenil - Heavens Tear wrote: »3: rank9 = 6 armour piece 75% cost of warsoul, weapon is +30 attack lvl with zerk for bm/barb/sin, adv soul shatter for archer, -10% chan for wiz, +attack for cleric, +def for veno. Require tokens and 3 tw badges. R9 contain 6 pieces to have set bonus, for 6 you have 65 attack lvl +1% cri +20 def lvl.
Aww no zerk bow? :<0 -
Egaenil - Heavens Tear wrote: »
So what we have here is something really strange, we have every bad things pw-cn and more (bidding halls, DQ prices, tw system, nirv), and nothing good (trade items for rl cash, multi client, mod client)
Why is the bidding hall a bad thing?
Keep in mind that you guys have the +30 atk lvl Jones Blessing from Facebook, which China does not have.0 -
frankieraye wrote: »Why is the bidding hall a bad thing?
Keep in mind that you guys have the +30 atk lvl Jones Blessing from Facebook, which China does not have.
Because the bidding hall can only accept gold, which further inflates the price of gold, in addition to the already inflated prices from the packs.0 -
frankieraye wrote: »Why is the bidding hall a bad thing?
Keep in mind that you guys have the +30 atk lvl Jones Blessing from Facebook, which China does not have.
So far it has proven itself to be a ''meh'' kind of thing. Aerogear that you could get for much much cheaper from the auction house with a little patience, pigments that don't really serve a practical use except vanity (or reselling) etc.
It's just that with the right uber gear in there (scroll of tome, stacks of raptures/uncannies, +12 dragon orbs, you name it) this could very well become a bad thing, and most people are seeing this coming from miles away already.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Bidding hall is like a merchants dream come true. At least for those that have around 75-100 gold. Gold prices go up...or you can bid and split the dyes.
Packs = merchant X-tasy. Gold prices climb thereby making entry amount of coin harder. Eliminating competition. Then people buy and open those packs.
Multiclienting - seriouslly.... just buy another computer. They're cheap nowadays. You don't need anything that hardcore for PW. This game is old. its meant for older computers.
CSs and merchants get fat of this stuff. The rest of you fall behind.and bro...fyi this isn't a story.
All people are idiodic but some are more idiotic than others.0 -
frankieraye wrote: »Why is the bidding hall a bad thing?
Keep in mind that you guys have the +30 atk lvl Jones Blessing from Facebook, which China does not have.
I rather NOT have the attack blessing, why do we need blessing for? I start this game since CB, we had no blessing for a long long time, and we did fine, why all of a sudden blessing is a must?[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]"wink wink"0 -
frankieraye wrote: »Why is the bidding hall a bad thing?
Keep in mind that you guys have the +30 atk lvl Jones Blessing from Facebook, which China does not have.
Only problem with that is there are a ton of people like myself who wish those didn't exist. Helllllo increased charm ticks in TW b:victory
As for the bidding hall, I'll reserve my opinion till I see more of what is going to be auctioned. Currently people are in a bidding war for white pigments on DW - if it stays at things like that and mounts I'll just accept it as yet another money grab and bear it. Start putting actual hard to acquire equips in and I'll just continue shaking my head at where the game is swiftly heading.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Thanks for the sig Ophida0 -
frankieraye wrote: »Keep in mind that you guys have the +30 atk lvl Jones Blessing from Facebook, which China does not have.
Which benefits only those on Facebook. Then there are others like m'self who consider it the digital equivalent of a venereal disease...
But I guess that's our choice and tough luck for us, eh?0 -
Am I the only one who read the title of this post "We need to talk PWI" and immediately thought that the content was going to be "I'm sorry, but I'm leaving you."
If not, I guess im just weird... Although I already knew I was weird...
I left PWI when the patch was released but I never told it I was breaking up with it, I feel guilty now, what if it's waiting for me to come back, maybe it's worried. Ah well, serves it right. I think PWI had some kind of alcohol problem because it was changing too much, it isnt what I fell in love with anymore.0 -
Pattoe - Raging Tide wrote: »Am I the only one who read the title of this post "We need to talk PWI" and immediately thought that the content was going to be "I'm sorry, but I'm leaving you."
If not, I guess im just weird... Although I already knew I was weird...
I left PWI when the patch was released but I never told it I was breaking up with it, I feel guilty now, what if it's waiting for me to come back, maybe it's worried. Ah well, serves it right. I think PWI had some kind of alcohol problem because it was changing too much, it isnt what I fell in love with anymore.
Welcome in family of former players. b:pleased[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
frankieraye wrote: »Keep in mind that you guys have the +30 atk lvl Jones Blessing from Facebook, which China does not have.
Joking right ??
A hell of a lot of people dont want the Jones Blessing, It totally ruins aspects of the game both PvE and PvP ... But hey it burns more charms in PvP = more gold for PWI so must be good aye ?[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
For the sake of a good game, yes we do need to talk to PW but they say DQ nerf was for getting rid of botters and are they still hanging around?
While PW-CN gets rid of packs and PWI doesn't. See the irony? And adding useless new content and UI doesn't help the game get better either.
I don't care if packs stay or not, But as far as I can tell, making fists only usable for BMs and BMs will become the most OP class ingame, at least the ones that use fists with +7 or above refines and at least 3 attacks per second. Barbs will get replaced so fast thanks to a cash shopping axe/fist BM. Same with assassins. Skill fixes are still not there. The developers are not doing the right thing right now....
Thanks to people's mindsets the game is really bugging... PVP addicts definitely ruined the game[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Thanks for Flauschkatze for siggy b:cool
VIT > STR > DEX > MAG... GG
HA > LA > AR... GG
HA + VIT = win b:bye0 -
Yulk - Heavens Tear wrote: »
Thanks to people's mindsets the game is really bugging... PVP addicts definitely ruined the game
Does anyone have a collection of not-very-brilliant quotes they want to add this to?0 -
Oh, we have the JJ bless box! oh joy, oh joy! because +30 attack level is way better than:
-the possibility of owning/renting a house in-game
-being able to sell in-game items for profit
-ability to legally open more than 1 client on the same physical machine
And @ the guy who said china has 6x as much population so it's logic they can open 6 clients, yeah i'm pretty sure china has more population than canada, usa, mexico, all south america and several european countries all together, perfect world international gets it's player database from all the above mentioned places, i know for i have met people from australia, new zealand, germany, poland, greece and several more, and ofc a large part of my faction lives in the usa
I'm also quite interested on this, why do we have to pay for all chinese do, but don't have all the benefits they do? by the way i consider not having packs in the boutique a BIG, HUGE, ENORMOUS benefitOriginally Posted by frankieraye: To say that would be a lie, because in regards to the DQ problem, it's something that we're honestly still working on, and something that we believe we can fix.
(8)Don't stop! believing! hold onto that feeling!(8)0 -
Didn't knew some of the points there... Now I feel a bit sad... =-__-=[insert sig here]0
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Mystic-Night - Heavens Tear wrote: »Hmm
So if this is true then PWI GMs have been lying to us this entire time no?
GMs, I thought we had to have everything like PW-CN?
Cash shop items has always been the one thing handled seperately. At least that much allowed us not to be blasted with Perfect Horns.0 -
Longknife - Harshlands wrote: »Yeah well there's almost 6x as many Chinese as there are Americans, so this makes sense.
...The hell??
Barb: Cleric I need more heals, I'm gonna drop soon!
Cleric: I'm healing as much as I can! The DD's are just gonna have to take out the boss, and quick!
Archer: Don't worry folks, I've got a secret weapon!
Cleric: :O!! What is it, super awesome party-mate?
Archer: I'm going to WALK ON WALLS. -does-
Barb: ....
Wiz: Terry, get the f*** down from there and help us kill this boss! 'The hell do you think you're doing...
That **** right there tells me the Chinese have too much time on their hands.
That made me lol.frankieraye wrote: »Why is the bidding hall a bad thing?
Keep in mind that you guys have the +30 atk lvl Jones Blessing from Facebook, which China does not have.
And for this Frankie, you sorta skipped the part where they PW-CN server took out their packs and yet we are stuck with them. Care to explain why you decided to not answer or even comment on that?
And Facebook is a active world wide virus. So what do the people get for not wanting to get tangled up in that thing, nothing.I do as the Romans do, I wash my hands of thee.0 -
frankieraye wrote: »Why is the bidding hall a bad thing?
Keep in mind that you guys have the +30 atk lvl Jones Blessing from Facebook, which China does not have.
OMG!! Out of all the issues pointed out, this is the best you can do!?
How (self-censored statements follow)!!!0 -
To be honest I really don't think Frankie got much to say in the day to day running of the business, let's be truthful here, he would be what.. lvl 1 support officer? maybe mid lvl at best. Chicekn tiger should has a higher position or at least senior, but I mean they have no influence of what pwe will do next. TBH this game really let me down, I really enjoyed this game when it was still in CB, I think the most fun I had was lvl 60-85, 99.9% on my sever HT run around like noobs.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]"wink wink"0
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