Omg venos need help

Queenofpower - Dreamweaver
Queenofpower - Dreamweaver Posts: 112 Arc User
edited August 2010 in Suggestion Box
Over the last few months venomancer class is loosing all importance especially beyond level 100....In TT its all about APS , now even in Nirvana with the Random aggro etc its a pain for venos...., the herc running away due to seal is irritating tanks..... , in Delta Sins are doing veno job ,....wat is the use of venos now ?? The only good i seem to do is with my nix in Tw....so what about venos without Nix ? Venos have been reduced to nothing.....we dont get invited anywhere....ofcourse my friends take me...But it should not be like that...There has to be some role for us b:angry . Now some may say that veno can purge in nirvana....but i dont think that one boss is making venos usefull in Nirvana...Veno money supplies are dieing out.... a herc seems to take 10-20 times the time of a Claw/Fist BM to tank stuff......soloing is no longer as profiable as before....Do something to balance things out a bit b:surrender

b:chuckle Give us a solo mode in nirvana....and more bosses in 3-2 , 3-3 solo mode or how abt a new pet b:cute

Haha people used to QQ abt veno nixes being overpowered....now thats the only thing that makes a veno valuable it seems. Or give pets or Us some nice new skills......
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  • Rubix - Harshlands
    Rubix - Harshlands Posts: 130 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    And barbs can't take because of insane DD's...so qq.
    I have nothing to say.
  • /Gohan - Dreamweaver
    /Gohan - Dreamweaver Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Can't venos still pull o.o
  • LenieClarke - Heavens Tear
    LenieClarke - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,275 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    /Gohan - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Can't venos still pull o.o

    sure they can, just like anybody with a zeal genie can. earthflame was given a 25m range in this patch --- veno pulling is now very useful for soloing venos, and... not that necessary for anybody else.
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  • /Gohan - Dreamweaver
    /Gohan - Dreamweaver Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Oh yeah... the genies.

    @OP Even with nixes still useful in TW, TW is no longer worth the trouble it takes to get the nix so...
  • Azura - Lost City
    Azura - Lost City Posts: 2,281 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Yeah I agree with the OP about venos becoming the Red Mage of the game. While they were so strong at the begining, now that people are getting end-game gear venos look so weak for pve. I think there is nothing to do but to make one of those classes that overtaking venos.
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  • VlLKASS - Sanctuary
    VlLKASS - Sanctuary Posts: 1,396 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    in Delta Sins are doing veno job
    Venos were always useless in delta, pre TB

    we dont get invited anywhere....
    You mean you don't get invited into those 5 dps parties lol.
    Are you hinting your friends suck so much that you don't like going with them but want invites from others?


    Atleast you as a veno can roll on fists, since you get phys atk boost on x3 spark. Unlike mages, now those are pretty much useless in farming instances.
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  • MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear
    MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,377 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    It's the age of 5 attack speed & genie pull
    Almost every squad shout "LF> 5.o bm sin barb" b:surrender
    venomancer really become solo class now ?
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  • Ashivas - Dreamweaver
    Ashivas - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,293 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Good. Maybe veno's will fall off the map.
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  • Hanieko - Harshlands
    Hanieko - Harshlands Posts: 28 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Ashivas - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Good. Maybe veno's will fall off the map.

    You won't be saying that when a Psychic takes your spot in the squad because of there healing spells..=l
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  • Ashivas - Dreamweaver
    Ashivas - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,293 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Hanieko - Harshlands wrote: »
    You won't be saying that when a Psychic takes your spot in the squad because of there healing spells..=l

    Clerics require skill to play. Venos make coins extremely easy, they have a $250 cashshop item that makes them unbelievably overpowered, and they are finally losing their touch in squads. And this is a good thing.

    Veno's can buy their skill, clerics have to actually play their class to get skill.

    Veno's can make millions of coins by themselves in a couple hours. Clerics have to grind TT day after day after day... For what? A couple hundred thousand?

    This is based off my experiences from level 1 to 79. Venos are extremely easy to play, I made a veno just to make sure I wasn't saying this in ignorance, but no, they are very easy to play. Yet they are the best class by far, PvE wise. Simply because they cost next to nothing to grind on, and they can solo bosses other classes couldn't dream of soloing, unless those other classes were charmed of course.

    I'm glad to hear you veno's can't find squads. It's a cheap class. Purely my opinion. Whether you disagree with it or feel the need to flame it, it won't change anything.
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  • Dyskrasia - Heavens Tear
    Dyskrasia - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,161 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Ashivas - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Clerics require skill to play. Venos make coins extremely easy, they have a $250 cashshop item that makes them unbelievably overpowered, and they are finally losing their touch in squads. And this is a good thing.

    Veno's can buy their skill, clerics have to actually play their class to get skill.

    Veno's can make millions of coins by themselves in a couple hours. Clerics have to grind TT day after day after day... For what? A couple hundred thousand?

    This is based off my experiences from level 1 to 79. Venos are extremely easy to play, I made a veno just to make sure I wasn't saying this in ignorance, but no, they are very easy to play. Yet they are the best class by far, PvE wise. Simply because they cost next to nothing to grind on, and they can solo bosses other classes couldn't dream of soloing, unless those other classes were charmed of course.

    I'm glad to hear you veno's can't find squads. It's a cheap class. Purely my opinion. Whether you disagree with it or feel the need to flame it, it won't change anything.

    Wow, somebody's bitter.
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  • anwynd
    anwynd Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    wish i could make millions in a few hours on my veno i guess i must be doing something wrong cus im not making even half of even 2 mil in a day lol although i kind of suck at merching so tht must be it
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  • LenieClarke - Heavens Tear
    LenieClarke - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,275 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Dyskrasia - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Wow, somebody's bitter.

    i was just thinking i'd like to lock ashivas and tweakz in a room, just to see what'd happen...
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  • Dyskrasia - Heavens Tear
    Dyskrasia - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,161 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    LenieClarke - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    i was just thinking i'd like to lock ashivas and tweakz in a room, just to see what'd happen...
    b:laughb:chuckle
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  • anwynd
    anwynd Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    LenieClarke - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    i was just thinking i'd like to lock ashivas and tweakz in a room, just to see what'd happen...

    do it nooooowb:sin *starts making pop corn*
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  • VlLKASS - Sanctuary
    VlLKASS - Sanctuary Posts: 1,396 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    anwynd wrote: »
    wish i could make millions in a few hours on my veno i guess i must be doing something wrong cus im not making even half of even 2 mil in a day lol although i kind of suck at merching so tht must be it

    Hm.... 1 eden stone/abysmal run earns my lame veno that's still using mostly 80s gear about 1,7m coinage & takes an hour or a bit more if I mess up b:quiet

    Your pet ain't gona lay golden eggs you know... Go out & um.... farm?
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  • Ashivas - Dreamweaver
    Ashivas - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,293 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    LenieClarke - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    i was just thinking i'd like to lock ashivas and tweakz in a room, just to see what'd happen...

    You're a terrible troll. Stop trying.
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  • Ashivas - Dreamweaver
    Ashivas - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,293 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Dyskrasia - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Wow, somebody's bitter.

    Good luck finding a nirvana squad b:bye
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  • Dyskrasia - Heavens Tear
    Dyskrasia - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,161 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Ashivas - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Good luck finding a nirvana squad b:bye

    I've found plenty lol


    On another note... I think the word troll must have been redefined by the PWI community, because half of the time it's used on here it isn't even used correctly.
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  • Ashivas - Dreamweaver
    Ashivas - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,293 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Dyskrasia - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I've found plenty lol


    On another note... I think the word troll must have been redefined by the PWI community, because half of the time it's used on here it isn't even used correctly.

    Internet troll: In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into a desired emotional response.

    Hmm... I'd say that was posted with the intent to provoke an emotional response, I would also say it is off-topic.

    I think you just don't know the definition of troll. Maybe you should read up a bit before you go trying to question the context in which I use a word.
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  • Kaenor - Heavens Tear
    Kaenor - Heavens Tear Posts: 173 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Ashivas seem to be late for this comments, because veno is so generic class now, with bhs and other stuffs you havent any disadvantage on levelling, maybe if you tried 1,5 years ago Perfect World, i say "maybe" i understand your point of view, but now i becomed little sarcastic about your "veno hate".
    And yes, clerics had harder days on early levels, but i hope you learned basics about your capabilities (like aoe grinding), and you can understand now venos dont stronger than others.
    Past times i really liked a veno in my parties, because they are a very flexible class. I use mine to maintain my cleric, and it's works well.

    I hope they give some extra features to venos in the future, like any others.
  • Dyskrasia - Heavens Tear
    Dyskrasia - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,161 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Ashivas - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Internet troll: In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into a desired emotional response.

    Hmm... I'd say that was posted with the intent to provoke an emotional response, I would also say it is off-topic.

    I think you just don't know the definition of troll. Maybe you should read up a bit before you go trying to question the context in which I use a word.

    I guess that would depend on how you interpreted his post; I saw it as light humor poking fun at your hatred for venos and tweakz' love (...there's probably a better word for it) for them, seeing as you both seem to be known for your opinions on the subject. If you felt that what he said was potentially offensive, you're just silly. ;)

    But you're right that maybe I don't know the definition of the word. I always thought it applied to someone who was either: a.) being openly stupid and offensive or b.) behaving in a way that would make people question their faith in humanity without being so alarming that they question that person's authenticity (see BeingHope); I wouldn't have guessed that it would apply to a comment that is both relevant and accurate. Your posts the other day in the same sex marriage thread (in which you admit you were trolling) are good examples of type a., and generally what I think of when I use the word.
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  • Ashivas - Dreamweaver
    Ashivas - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,293 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Dyskrasia - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I guess that would depend on how you interpreted his post; I saw it as light humor poking fun at your hatred for venos and tweakz' love (...there's probably a better word for it) for them, seeing as you both seem to be known for your opinions on the subject. If you felt that what he said was potentially offensive, you're just silly. ;)

    But you're right that maybe I don't know the definition of the word. I always thought it applied to someone who was either: a.) being openly stupid and offensive or b.) behaving in a way that would make people question their faith in humanity without being so alarming that they question that person's authenticity (see BeingHope); I wouldn't have guessed that it would apply to a comment that is both relevant and accurate. Your posts the other day in the same sex marriage thread (in which you admit you were trolling) are good examples of type a., and generally what I think of when I use the word.

    I am a troll. My time spent on the forums is an attempt to irritate other people. Immature? Maybe. Bored? Definitely. Am I good at it? Ask the forum community, 99% of the time, after I post, people reply in a very angry tone.

    **** marriage will never happen in PW, and to say otherwise is a sign of stupidity.

    And no, your definition is incorrect. According to the almighty Wikipedia, the definition I posted is the meaning of the word "troll".
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  • Darksylph - Heavens Tear
    Darksylph - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,816 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Ashivas - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    And no, your definition is incorrect. According to the almighty Wikipedia, the definition I posted is the meaning of the word "troll".

    and we all know how reliable and always accurate a wiki is right?

    /sarcasm
  • MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear
    MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,377 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Venomancer not making money like crazy b:bye
    Merchanting do b:surrender
    And 5 aps class = solo end game instance b:thanks but need woah number of money compared to legendary pet
    veno just has low repair cost
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  • LenieClarke - Heavens Tear
    LenieClarke - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,275 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    in the middle of a convo about trolling and venomancers:
    Ashivas - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    **** marriage will never happen in PW, and to say otherwise is a sign of stupidity.

    dude, you're obsessed with ****. why?
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  • Ashivas - Dreamweaver
    Ashivas - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,293 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Dyskrasia - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Your posts the other day in the same sex marriage thread (in which you admit you were trolling) are good examples of type a., and generally what I think of when I use the word.
    ^ See Above ^
    LenieClarke - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    in the middle of a convo about trolling and venomancers:
    dude, you're obsessed with ****. why?

    You're an idiot, as I have previously stated, and you need to read the conversation going on, otherwise you embarass yourself, kinda like what you just did there.
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  • LenieClarke - Heavens Tear
    LenieClarke - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,275 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    dude, i'm not the one suddenly bringing up **** marriage in the middle of a thread about other stuff entirely. i mean, i like the subject and all --- makes for good debating and good flaming, both --- but there's such a thing as threadjacking too bad for even me.
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  • MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear
    MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,377 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Ashivas
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  • Frostwish - Raging Tide
    Frostwish - Raging Tide Posts: 189 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    I don't see how the hell Venomancers can make 2 mil in a couple of hours. Unless this has something to do with using real money to buy from the CS.

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