Links to old TW maps? Anyone?

I was checking the maps and, this brings me back ages.
Yeah so many colors, someone correct me if I'm wrong but:
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l158/DeadSurvivor/Gaming/territory001.jpg
http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=301831
Red: Calamity
Pink: Equinox who relocated in Tideborn lands later on and pushed from there.
Teal: Armagedon vanquished by Calamity
Yellow: Immortal vanquished by Equinox and Calamity, split into Bushido later on
Orange: TheTitans vanquished by Equinox
Kakhi: Dominion vanquished by Equinox and Crusaders (Equinox ally/baby faction)
Dark yellowish (Sanctuary): Valkyrie Vanquished by Armagedon
Snot Green: Dynasty Relocated by Equinox
Teal (King's Feast): Imajica Vanquished by Armagedon
Light Green (Southern Stronghold): ENVY? Can't recall. Vanquished by Armagedon.

This map, I remember very dearly.
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l158/DeadSurvivor/Gaming/tw004.jpg
I wasn't able to TW that weekend, as I had just joined Calamity, but I remember hearing to the wars in vent. Olee had a screenshot of the Immortal war, which I think now, if it had gone a different way it could have changed completely the story behind the whole Equinox-Calamity rivalry, maybe the outcome of Dreamweaver map.

If you're interested in learning the story behind each of those maps, I believe you can search in this forums for Lieal's threads: TW reports. There are only a few weeks that she didn't do before retiring from it on December 2009.

This map, bugs me the most.
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l158/DeadSurvivor/Gaming/territory030.jpg
The week before this weekend, Equinox efficiently defended their first TW against Calamity, 3 hour defense on Windswept Grasslands. This weekend, they won their first offensive war against Calamity, funny enough, it was the same land they failed to take 26 weeks ago from that day when I had just joined. 38 weeks after server opening (Judging that on the first map linked, Calamity has 11 lands and they took land on the second week of the server). That's got to say a lot of Equinox core members, the few ones still in, that never gave up like Illyana or Er_Nai

But I am a little bummed that that map lacks the starting history of the Tideborn land TW. If you look at the map, the first time TB is featured, it's already owned by 2 factions.

A big bummer for me, cause it was Bushi that first made a succesful defense there before losing it all.+

I wish I had been in the TW scene at the early days, it looks so much more interesting than now.

It is normal that power will be generally shared amongst equals. Raging tide and Archosaur colorfulness can be easily explained by the fact that this are servers made mostly by old rivals from other servers, that would rather own 1 piece of land than teaming up. as well as the understatement of the year: "dead servers are dead".

I believe both Calamity and Equinox applicant arrive to said factions because well, it gets hard for 1-6 lvl 95+ or lvl 100 people in 1 small faction to remain there, while they cannot get BH, Nirvana, TT3-2 3-3 squads. Initially we all chase our personal goals: BHs, RL/Old time online friends, TW pay, TW kills, etc... then time and community makes us develop loyalty, we start adapting such goals, into the faction goals. Dreamweaver isn't the only server that's 2-1 Color. Check for Nef, look old threads for CQ.

Ashivas - Dreamweaver wrote: »

This is exactly why I wanted to look at some old TW maps, to see how interesting it was when everyone was just starting out. On Raging Tide it still looks like these old maps. It's fun to watch how the TW's change the scenery of the map every week. Here it's just... Bleh. A bunch of random B- factions attack Cala and EQ and lose, and EQ and Cala fight for 3 hours and take turns holding territories. And The territory Dyna is holding seems to switch hands after about a month or so. Though I would say EQ is expanding at quite a fast rate. And Dyna will probably hold that spot for a while... Add 2-3 more legitimate factions to the mix and it would be very interesting.

Olee can probably fill you with this more than me, as I was only observing TW from the sidelines until June 2009 in Dreamweaver.

Server opened the week of march 6th 2009. No TW weekend this week cause no faction made had 100+ hours members.
Week 2: Calamity takes land, Dragon Wilderness. 2 factions merge and form Equinox

Week 4: A family that slays together stays together, makes their first map appearance. Bloodpact (Orange) takes silk ridge.
All other big factions start making their PvE pushes through to secure their target cities:
1k Streams: Bordered by Equinox to the north and east, by Immortal to the south
Etherblade: Bordered by Equinox to the west, Dominion to the North, Midnight to the east and TheTitans pushing from Misfortune through to the south.
Archosaur: Bordered by Equinox to the north, Armagedon to the south, TheTitans to the northeast
City of the Lost: Bordered by Calamity, BloodPact and Immortal
City of Plume: would be bordered by Calamity and Bloodpact, creating the first PvP TW in weeks to come.

-First alliances were made around this month, Calamity and Equinox in one hand had decided quietly to not attack each other and split the map.
Immortal and Equinox have an open pact, yet under the table, Dominion, Immortal, TheTitans and Midnight make an alliance in order to stop Equinox expansion, as it being the faction with the most members from dead factions during the first month, posed a strong treat to any faction in the server.


Week 5: First PvP TW in the server, BloodPact attacks a semi-idle Elysium and take King's feast off them, to secure their position to plume. Likewise, Calamity attacked Bloodpact's Courage Path next week, in what was expected to be the first "real" PVP TW in the server. Calamity won in less than 10 minutes. Dynasty becomes the first faction to be Vanquished off the map, after Armagedon removed them from Black Mountain.

Week 6: First "gank of the server happen. Immortal broke the alliance and attacked EQ with ENVY and Titans and EQ manages to survive. Arma and Equinox attack TheTitans and block each other to the east of archosaur. Calamity destroyed the recent group of elite members that had split just a week before into a faction named Covenant and taken Buried Bones. Bloodpact gets attacked by Immortal and Imajica(?) to the south losing borders with both City of Plume and Lost City.

By week 8 the fate of the server was sorta clear:
Calamity had 7 lands, Equinox had 6, Armagedon, Immortal had 5 lands each, Dominion 4, blocked by EQ. First big factions dissipated or merged: BloodPact, Elysium as well as small faction leaders were absorbed mostly by Equinox, Immortal and Calamity, Midnight and some of TheTitans by Dominion. With small factions like Bliss, Imajica, Dynasty, etc holding 1 land and not interfering with the order of the big factions.

By week 11 Calamity took the first PvE lvl 2 land of the server, City of Plume, took them around 2 hours. 1 week after Equinox said that by taking Plains of Farewell (something that happened like 3 weeks before), Calamity broke their pact with them, so they'd retake the land that was meant to be theirs by pact. This started EQ-Calamity wars. (read the post above).

By week 20 Calamity surrounded 1 thousand streams, Archosaur and Dreamweaver port, last one, he had gained control of in 45 minutes. Limiting Armagedon to 3 lands. Equinox was the only other faction in control of a level 2 territory, with Etherblade, took them nearly 3 hours. Equinox will keep losing lands 1 a week to Calamity until week 35, when they won their first defense, and on week 36, they won their first attack. Equinox will then take the last PvE land of the server, City of Lost, which Calamity had planned to save as the last land they'd take, as a humor note, being a PvE server, that your last TW land is a PvE one would've been cute. [From this point on, a period of time I went afk from the game, Illyana who also trolls this forums regularly can probably expand more of this] Soon after, Equinox expanded east to 1 thousand streams, 1 land at a time which is also something those screenshots don't show. By the time Equinox lost their momentum. Bushido and Dynasty had expanded through the recently opened Tideborn lands.

When EQ lost their momentum, got pushed back by Calamity, they decided to give up their land and relocate to the south, putting a wall of Dynasty and few Bushido lands that were left in between them. The logic of Equinox move was, if you do not help us attack Calamity, you're just about as our TW rival as Calamity itself. IIt's not my words, you can find that topic through old DW forums. This happened around February-March of 2010. The move was tactically a smart one, as they managed to strengthen themselves as well as forced a neutral faction like Dynasty, into attacking Calamity, due to member pressure over their officers. Dynasty then started a chain of attacks to both Equinox and Calamity ganks, where both Equinox and Calamity would decide to give in a land for Dynasty just to take it back the next week. To stop the endless chain, Calamity decided to wipe Dynasty of the area and risk land to Equinox, who most of the times (not sure if its accurate to say, in all times) took advantage and reclaimed land for them.

As of the last 12 weeks, Equinox has had (in my opinion) TW superiority when it's compared to Calamity. In my opinion, this has a lot to do with the current state of the game, full attack genies (frenzy, cloud eruption, domain mostly) and attack and defense boxes being added, followed soon after by JJ blessing and attendance ring, which makes it easier for a caster class to achieve 15% critical rate, something that was reserved for very few just months ago. TW has become the playground of archers and wizards. "back in the days", Steukbarb with 25k HP and TT99 gear with his refinements and shards couldn't be taken down from any enemy crystal, nowadays, it takes 2-4 frenzied wizards for him to say bye bye. The fact that Equinox DDers lineup consist of more numerous, (some) better geared, and (mostly) PK oriented players when you compare them to (the majority of) Calamity DDers, has made it easier to Equinox to adapt to the current TW trend. Equinox had gained 6 lands during that time span (12 weeks) from Calamity, last one being City of plume in under 25 minutes, while Calamity couldn't take a single one from Equinox. Then again, last 2 weeks have been brighter for Calamity, retaking City of plume in 2 hours and achieving their first TW attack victory for 3 months, as well as efficiently defending a lvl 3 territory in 2 hours. Maybe it's a trend, maybe it's just a fluke. Guess this weekend will tell us more.

Sorry to anyone if you think I'm biased to one or other faction, after all, I've been in cala pretty much for all my PWI time. I may have missed some or a lot of information, feel free to clarify or correct me if I'm wrong. This has been just my perception of the server's TW history.

As far as I know, HDT is an independent faction without bound allegiance to Cala, or EQ. I don't know about Dynasty, or Inversion though.

Ashivas - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Wow thanks for the good read guys. Super interesting to catch up on server history for some reason lol.

If anyone else would like to post their opinion it would be greatly appreciated ^.^'

You can just search for it. I don't feel like dragging up muck again -_-

Ashivas, most of the TW threads in this forum section ended up with drama on them. So far, this thread has been the most clean so far, I'm kinda still waiting for someone to drop a flame bomb so I can stop reading through it b:chuckle As drama attracts trolls, and trolls refresh threads a lot, you should be looking for the most read threads in this forums. Sort the main forum by views or replies, you'll get the most dramatic TW ones b:laugh just please don't bump the ones that have not been locked yet xD

I think that this thread has been the most polite and (possibly) unbiased wrote by an Equinox and a Calamity member in a while, I'd call it a good day and just ask if you have any question to Illyana or Olee, they were here pretty much since server opening

xD Olee seems right. rememebr it like that too. not that i remembered it all tho :x

Lylise - Archosaur wrote: »

- EQ lost a bid fight to Calamity

Silk Ridge, I remember this weekend. Calamity and EQ were both having a bid war for this land, because it was the one left that bordered City of The Lost. Immortal was holding this land, and Seraphim's idea was to secure CoL for a future attack. The only 2 lvl 2 territory we took without securing it first was Dreamweaver Port, which did backfire on us around December, the bid went to extra time as normal, Equinox had the biggest bid by when the extra time is granted. Seraphim bids again, and then whoever was in charge of EQ bidding makes a silly move and reraises immediately. Then it was just a matter of Wayne waiting until 1 minute before the closing, he re-raised, EQ paid, and with 1 second left Seraphim makes the last bid, he intended to bid 1.8 million, but for the rush, he ended up paying an 18m bid lol.

Gladly, a percentage of the bid is refunded when you win, so we didnt "lose" much from it, instead, we earned a land that pays 10 million a week, and Equinox lost a chance to TW that weekend.

time to bore u guys with long ago in a distant land tale b:chuckle

i started in the first week of server at the end of that week or first of second week i joined a faction named midnight its leader acara i was sooo happy that we tw anyway 2nd week calamity takes first land (since i was in midnight all i can really explain is the history of the north east part)3rd week we titans dominion managed to take lands, anyway we at midnight werent really at the best relations with titans till boot camp armagedon's sister faction bidded on titans titans at that time were very week we were afraid that boot camp would be worse than titans so acara over bidded them then jay eq's leader told gms about that, then what we didnt know is that that was bannable acara was banned for week, this made midnight almost fall when acara came back she was afraid eq would attack us especially after seraphim's warning to us that they would attack us so we merged with dominion hopeing that with unity we would be able to defend our lands but apparently u need more than power to defend a land u need good leader ship good strategist

at that time there was a rumor that eq and calamity had a deal not to fight each other everyone in my faction was hopeing that calamity would attack eq and remove eq's threat anyway after 2 losses our leaders decide they wont tw anymore so basically ppl left for other factions basicly eq and calamity me einlanzer kaz gorsin went to calamity steel army fly ranger lectus went to eq ,before i went to calamity i had a while in a friends only faction named bonyard i didnt wanna join calamity cause i thought all tws would be easy and after what happend with eq before about banning my old leader ,and also i had an incident when an eq barb stole my tt drops anyway thats beside the point, anyway at that time i was farmin rank 4 was doing a lot of fbs on the day that eq attacked calamity the first attack ever from both sides that week calamity attacked arma(yes eq attacked calamity first ) anyway i was in an fb with Larsen who at this time was the most powerfull barb in the server we were talking about both factions he agreed that the outcome of this fight was unexpected and that in his opinion eq had the upper hand apparently he was mistaken for that calamity had for more than 50 week the undefeated status after a short while in bonyard i left cause most of my friends were in a different time zone in that faction so most of the time i was alone and most importantly i missed tw i loved all of calamity's members but i didnt want easy wars after sometime i applied and got accepted in calamity

for year to come calamity never lost a battle. packs came out all the ppl who worked hard for there hax gears were mad for instance qultor the highest lvl on the server at that time had 90% of the helm of holy punishment but was mad that it was in packs. seraphim our leader our military mind he had the BEST of plans for tws also quited (in a mysterious way i might add). many others qiuted for that reason. that also gave eq cash shoppers who at this time were way more than calamities managed to seize the chance (then dragoonz quited and i heard he gave away a lot of stuff to eq (not sure)) till the forsaken plains of farewell our first loss lightaine decided to attack instead of defend and were 3 catas ont here crystal and htey managed to sneak 4 catas in our base so they won surprisingly calamity didnt have anyone leaving it. at that time lightaine would win us about 2 or 3 more weeks of tw then he quited or more accurately left for RT he did leave on his own accord weather he was liked or not is debatable i myself liked him other than he didnt put me in many eq tws QQ. anyway calamity found it self with no tw leader , at the same time eq got a new leader ajay ,imho he was the best strategist eq had he managed to change course of tw towards there favour for months to come till eq finally kept losing and migrating to south(i honestly dont know what made that change happen but according to ajay not enough ppl showed for tws i doupt that but thats only me) BB aka BaldwinBoy was getting hang of leading tws then after eq was done with bushido and dynasty and finally coming for us , we kept fighting 3 hour wars for weeks that we either lost or just managed to defend ourselves then another winnign streak came for us to almost annihilate eq from existence that eq had 1 land but they managed to push us back all the way to plume city and for 2 weeks take plume city from (our capital) i myself couldnt look at the map for those 2 weeks i was feeling very bad but thankfully we managed to keep ourselves together and pushed eq out of plume after 2 weeks then the tw change came and eqbegun to have very low attendance and we c the map the way it is now.

now i told history as i remember it i hope everything i said is right if not correct me plz ty b:thanks now good night