Would you roll on a new pvp server?

Nurfed_You - Harshlands
Nurfed_You - Harshlands Posts: 754 Arc User
edited August 2010 in Dawnglory (EU)
We've all heard rumors of a new server.....question is would you reroll from HL or not. Is there a point in trying to get to 10X on HL? No one runs HH in any bigger guilds, it seems to be r8 or gtfo nowadays.

Anyone else of the same opinion or am i just way off?
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  • Paimage - Harshlands
    Paimage - Harshlands Posts: 1,017 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Nurfed_You - Harshlands wrote: »
    We've all heard rumors of a new server.....question is would you reroll from HL or not. Is there a point in trying to get to 10X on HL? No one runs HH in any bigger guilds, it seems to be r8 or gtfo nowadays.

    Anyone else of the same opinion or am i just way off?

    The new server would go same way sooner or later, so its a waste to do so...
  • Hudini - Heavens Tear
    Hudini - Heavens Tear Posts: 89 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    the ay people level now a new server would not be fun. If they somehow decided to make a non cashshop server with the old means of leveling then perhaps I would be interested.
  • Kenshin_ - Harshlands
    Kenshin_ - Harshlands Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    i'll do it 1 millions times so as many players i know b:victory
  • Nurfed_You - Harshlands
    Nurfed_You - Harshlands Posts: 754 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Paimage - Harshlands wrote: »
    The new server would go same way sooner or later, so its a waste to do so...

    but your already 10X with decent gear.....so of course it would be a waste for you. but i do understnad your point.
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  • Devoted - Lost City
    Devoted - Lost City Posts: 3,634 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Yes and I would make a mage named Nurfed
  • Burnout - Harshlands
    Burnout - Harshlands Posts: 2,585 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    I wouldn't. PWI is a (slowly) dying game imo and why would you spend the next 4-5 months grinding BH'ing to get to lvl 100? All games die it's not just b/c ppl think PWI has bad policies or w/e, PWI is just getting old.

    The only reason I still play this game is b/c pvp is fun (sometimes) and I alrdy have a lvl 100 char with pretty decent gears. If there was a server wipe and we all had to start over I would call it quits and do something else. Which is basically what a new pvp serv would be.

    Sure you can play w/o cash shopping at all, and its actually very easily do-able with farming and merchanting atm, but why suck your soul out that why? Then you're basically doing 5000 hours of pve for like 100 hours of pvp. And successful merchanting takes a certain mindset, sure it's easy for any average **** to make 500k / day but to actually support yourself in-game you end up spending more time merchanting than playing the game.

    Anyway that's my 2 cents.
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  • Ligeia - Harshlands
    Ligeia - Harshlands Posts: 1,144 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    PWI is dying because they rushed everyone to endgame when the only endgame content is Nirvana, which is coma-inducing, endless hours of HH, endless hours of catshopping, or charging thousands of dollars to buy gear and charms for PvP which last about half a day because of the power creep from high refines, and TW, which is supposed to make up for the other 5-6 days of the week when you're bored out of your skull. The whole game is beginning to feel like it's designed to keep you preparing to have fun without ever actually planning on delivering.
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  • HappysHAIL - Harshlands
    HappysHAIL - Harshlands Posts: 219 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    PWI isnt just a slowly dieing game but one that doesnt cater to a PVP crowd. The number of bans Ive seen for pking in certain areas (Heavens Tear, Secret Passage, Marriage Quest) is beyond excessive. Its a pvp server, let us pvp.

    That aside, we have two "new" servers in Archosaur and Raging Tide that from every account Ive heard are more than dead already after just a few months existance. I admit I may be wrong as I dont play on these servers, but from everything Ive heard the peak population was never that strong to begin with.

    Creating new servers presents a fundamental problem: You're fragmenting an already limited population. While there are still new people that download and decide to play, from what I see on Harshlands its just not that significant of an influx. As such, by continuing to create new servers, you're taking more players away from existing servers than you are inticing new ones to start playing.

    Our population on Harshlands is, at best, weak. The only "pvp" on this server exists outside west gate, hidden orchid, or silver pool - and thats mostly just everyone running around ganking the random red name that might show up. The invention of hypers, oracles, and other fast leveling techinques have destroyed any posibility of RPK. Unless, of course, you roll out the Mines and kill 3x or the swamps for a few random 6x that MIGHT be around somewhere. Dailys (BH, CS, Cube) and Frost basically mean that as soon as someone even gets close to 8x+ they crawl into an instance and never come out.

    So.. what then is the point of a pvp server? Much less a new one? You would be taking away popluation from an already under populated server where PVP is basically non existant already due to the changes made within the game in the last year. Even though you cant hide behind blue name protections, you can fundamentally do the same thing by never leaving an instance. You might hope to draw players from non-pvp servers, but all you would do is futher stress their populations there. And, honestly, I dont forsee too many people giving up a PVE server where they are already established to try out a new pvp server.

    New servers are bad ideas.
  • Taboo - Harshlands
    Taboo - Harshlands Posts: 1,420 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Why pvp in PWI anyway? it is the worst pvp system/mechanics ive ever seen. Everything is so slow paced, its made for the average 50 year old, that likes to come home from work, drink a few beers, and play, and be "good" because there is little to no skill needed to pvp in this game. Classes are incredibly imbalanced, and the whole charm system is just dumb. If you want to pvp play another game. PWI is just a glorified online chat service where people can meet new people, flirt, and flaunt their epeens, oh and TW on the weekends......which is also made very poorly lol.

    I have an idea....instead of a new server, how about some new TW maps....OR, if even that is too difficult, make Mid-lane paths which connect A to B and C to B......so scouting would get messy and EVERY push wouldnt just be head on collisions and you might actually need some sort of strat other than "our gear is better than theirs, PUSHHHHHHHHHHHH".
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  • Desiree - Harshlands
    Desiree - Harshlands Posts: 635 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    If and only if it is a 100% no oracle, no hypers, no ____-packs server.

    Not gonna happen b:surrender
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  • Bloop - Harshlands
    Bloop - Harshlands Posts: 490 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    I'd move if they made it a non cash shop server. :D
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  • BlazinJaney - Harshlands
    BlazinJaney - Harshlands Posts: 21 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Taboo - Harshlands wrote: »
    \ "our gear is better than theirs, PUSHHHHHHHHHHHH".

    lol'd irl.



    I'd reroll on the new pvp server... Then again.. I'm a 3x RPKer who plays this on server for ****s and giggles when Sanctuary gets boring.
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  • Burnout - Harshlands
    Burnout - Harshlands Posts: 2,585 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    See I don't really agree that the pvp mechanics are as bad as ppl are saying, PWI in the past 2-3 months has implemented nien events, thursday pk tournies, and soon that wisdom forest ****.

    Nien events are ripe for some hilarious situations, its just that ppl get so caught up in trying to compete for a couple mirage celestones or like "OMG! Nien events! Gotta attend each one 2x a day everyday without fail so I can get top 5 and refine my +11 2nd recast nirvana rep more" or w/e.

    Pk tournies are also fun and generally give out pretty good prizes for the time/charms spent.

    And also you only get banned for pk'ing if you start griefing incessantly...how do u call killing lvl 30 noobs for 4 hours non-stop pk'ing? I've never been banned in SP and it's cause I only used to go there to have a non-**** no - nix no run-and-drop and fly and run-and drop and fly for 20 minutes fights.
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  • ICEsmoke - Harshlands
    ICEsmoke - Harshlands Posts: 65 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    dam u ppl are total dorks kk bak to 2 shoting R8s with my pole ARHAHA
    Im about to bust my pole up yo **** hole
  • Rhyme - Harshlands
    Rhyme - Harshlands Posts: 1,004 Arc User
    edited July 2010
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  • MindCrime - Harshlands
    MindCrime - Harshlands Posts: 544 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Nope. No reason to.

    PWI has ruined this game with Hypers and packs.
  • thisisajam
    thisisajam Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited July 2010
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  • Starr - Harshlands
    Starr - Harshlands Posts: 331 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Taboo - Harshlands wrote: »
    Why pvp in PWI anyway? it is the worst pvp system/mechanics ive ever seen. Everything is so slow paced, its made for the average 50 year old, that likes to come home from work, drink a few beers, and play, and be "good" because there is little to no skill needed to pvp in this game. Classes are incredibly imbalanced, and the whole charm system is just dumb. If you want to pvp play another game. PWI is just a glorified online chat service where people can meet new people, flirt, and flaunt their epeens, oh and TW on the weekends......which is also made very poorly lol.

    I have an idea....instead of a new server, how about some new TW maps....OR, if even that is too difficult, make Mid-lane paths which connect A to B and C to B......so scouting would get messy and EVERY push wouldnt just be head on collisions and you might actually need some sort of strat other than "our gear is better than theirs, PUSHHHHHHHHHHHH".

    why? you are predictable as it goes... "oh yeah there is tabby on the grass again" but i guess pulling a cata every single war must get really boring.
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  • Garaver - Harshlands
    Garaver - Harshlands Posts: 882 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    ICEsmoke - Harshlands wrote: »
    dam u ppl are total dorks kk bak to 2 shoting R8s with my pole ARHAHA

    *After this post ICEsmoke died of a rare disease called "nobody-care-4-u-ism" *

    Now on subject

    I gotta agree, hypers and packs ruined the game, but it got ruined cause we all (including myself) keep buying them and make the pwi staff earn millions of dollars monthly. We do it because we have no choice, if u wanna keep it up against other OP geared players, we have to buy them. As a game it may be dying but as a business it has never been better to pwi.
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  • XHurricanex - Harshlands
    XHurricanex - Harshlands Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    New PvP server?LMAO!That server would usck cuz every knows best pvp class is sin.Ok then ebtter make Assasin-PvP server with only sins, no bh, no tt not other things where you need other classes.
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  • LordPangu - Harshlands
    LordPangu - Harshlands Posts: 413 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    I dont have the patience to level up my current char so I would not even bother about moving to a new server. The levelling methods nowadays allow every1 just to "jump" levels, and the things that were fun on Harshlands on the beginning will never replicate in another server, simple as that.
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  • Killermate - Harshlands
    Killermate - Harshlands Posts: 437 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    I'd do what smart people would do. Roll a veno and PK people 24/7 all the way to lvl 50~70, Then quit that server.
  • kenlee
    kenlee Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Killermate - Harshlands wrote: »
    I'd do what smart people would do. Roll a veno and PK people 24/7 all the way to lvl 50~70, Then quit that server.
    tideborns are now available
  • /Groovy/ - Harshlands
    /Groovy/ - Harshlands Posts: 688 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Bloop - Harshlands wrote: »
    I'd move if they made it a non cash shop server. :D

    Not gonna happen, other servers would get empty like overnight :P
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  • quacks
    quacks Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    i no see the point of pvp server
    if anything i'd go PVE the only reason i roll in pvp is coz theres not 2 many population so lesser lag b:chuckle

    and yea pvp server u can get chi somewhat easily
    one of the greatest factors in lack of pvp...
    LOSING UR STUFF
    see ppl woudl fight eachother all day if that went away
    but that would be bad and leave little room for pve

    b:bye

    hey just save the old pvp server first lmao
  • Hudini - Heavens Tear
    Hudini - Heavens Tear Posts: 89 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    quacks wrote: »
    i no see the point of pvp server
    if anything i'd go PVE the only reason i roll in pvp is coz theres not 2 many population so lesser lag b:chuckle

    and yea pvp server u can get chi somewhat easily
    one of the greatest factors in lack of pvp...
    LOSING UR STUFF
    see ppl woudl fight eachother all day if that went away
    but that would be bad and leave little room for pve

    b:bye

    hey just save the old pvp server first lmao
    ...............snowfish gtfo forums with dumb ****. back to cage.

    o and friendly reminder, you left a PVE server to join a PvP server.
  • quacks
    quacks Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Hudini - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    ...............snowfish gtfo forums with dumb ****. back to cage.

    o and friendly reminder, you left a PVE server to join a PvP server.

    thats because theres ****loads of lagg lol (noted above)
  • Killermate - Harshlands
    Killermate - Harshlands Posts: 437 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    kenlee wrote: »
    tideborns are now available

    How is a sin supposed to kill a heavy veno at low levels? Im intrigued b:surprised
  • Roin - Harshlands
    Roin - Harshlands Posts: 155 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    XHurricanex - Harshlands wrote: »
    New PvP server?LMAO!That server would usck cuz every knows best pvp class is sin.Ok then ebtter make Assasin-PvP server with only sins, no bh, no tt not other things where you need other classes.
    \

    is it just me or are like 99% of the wizards on this game still QQing about sin?
    i dont find them 1/2 as bad as the guys in the wizard fourms say they are lol
  • Paimage - Harshlands
    Paimage - Harshlands Posts: 1,017 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Roin - Harshlands wrote: »
    \

    is it just me or are like 99% of the wizards on this game still QQing about sin?
    i dont find them 1/2 as bad as the guys in the wizard fourms say they are lol

    Thats cuz 99% of the wiz have bad def and hp(Im one of em) which means against sins that usually have good atk/sec they get killed fast. I dont have much problems against sins with less then 4atk/sec, but sins with 4+ atk/sec can kill me before I have time to press expel mainly cuz sumtimes the charm wont tick. Its like the 4+ atk/sec fist BMs except sins can do more dmg per hit with less refinement.

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