sage amplify vs demon amplify

Abocanhadora - Dreamweaver
Abocanhadora - Dreamweaver Posts: 55 Arc User
edited August 2010 in Venomancer
Ok, the thing is, I was talking about this with some guys and I start doing some math on top on my head... Someone help me with this stuff and tell me if I am wrong.

Ok, now down to bussiness

sage amplify damage -> cooldown 30 seconds, +30% damage for 20 seconds

demon amplify damage -> cooldown 30 seconds, +25% damage for 26 seconds.

Soo lets consider a phoenix attacking at 1 attack per second, doing 100 damage in a certain mob.


with amplify damage sage, that would mean:

130 damage * 20 seconds + 100 damage * 10 seconds = 2600 + 1000 = 3600

and now with amplify damage demon, that would mean:

125 damage * 26 seconds + 100 damage * 4 seconds = 3250 + 400 = 3650

Soo if we consider that the cooldown of amplify damage is 30 seconds, that would mean that a demon amplify would give better end damage overall than a demon one rigth?

I am not considering any kind of pvp or TW, just normal boss kill or grinding. If something here is wrong, please help me correcting this.

Any opinions would be welcomed, please keep it a clean of spam topic also.

EDIT [edited because I fail at math]
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  • truekossy
    truekossy Posts: 7,021 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Abocanhadora - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Ok, the thing is, I was talking about this with some guys and I start doing some math on top on my head... Someone help me with this stuff and tell me if I am wrong.

    Ok, now down to bussiness

    sage amplify damage -> cooldown 30 seconds, +30% damage for 20 seconds

    demon amplify damage -> cooldown 30 seconds, +25% damage for 26 seconds.

    Soo lets consider a phoenix attacking at 1 attack per second, doing 100 damage in a certain mob.


    with amplify damage sage, that would mean:

    130 damage * 20 seconds + 100 damage * 10 seconds = 2600 + 1000 = 3700

    and now with amplify damage demon, that would mean:

    125 damage * 26 seconds + 100 damage * 4 seconds = 3250 + 400 = 3650

    Soo if we consider that the cooldown of amplify damage is 30 seconds, that would mean that a sage amplify would give better end damage overall than a demon one rigth?

    I am not considering any kind of pvp or TW, just normal boss kill or grinding. If something here is wrong, please help me correcting this.

    Any opinions would be welcomed, please keep it a clean of spam topic also.
    2600+1000=3600 not 3700



    Demon amp is better if there's only one veno in the squad. If you have two or more, however, sage amp outperforms it.
  • tweakz
    tweakz Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Since when can you find 2 venos who actually amp in the same squad and then can coordinate them? Did an FB89 tonight and the bosses died before Demon Amp would matter. -Something to consider in these days of uber gears and high refines.
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  • Solandri - Heavens Tear
    Solandri - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,843 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    There's also a 1.5 sec channel time, so the cycle time is actually 30 + 1.5 = 31.5 sec.

    Sage: (1.3*20 + 1.0*11.5) / 31.5 = 1.19075 = average 19.1% more damage
    Demon: (1.25*26 + 1.0*5.5) / 31.5 = 1.2063 = average 20.6% more damage

    If you have a second veno who can fill in the gap, Sage works out better.

    Sage: (1.3*20 + 1.2*11.5) / 31.5 = 1.2635 = average 26.3% more damage
    Demon: (1.25*26 + 1.2*5.5) / 31.5 = 1.2413 = average 24.1% more damage

    But they're both so close that I wouldn't make a big deal about it. If you had to split hairs, I'd say Demon is more solo-friendly, Sage is better for groups (stuff in FB89 and FB99 tends to die in less than 20 sec with 2+ people in squad.
  • mooman321
    mooman321 Posts: 86 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    I'm not great with the numbers but assuming one veno in squad wouldn't the demon veno need to be Johny on the Spot about using amp the exact second it cools down in order to beat the sage version? I like the sage version because it give you a few seconds to cast lending hand, soultransfuse/metabolic boost, or build chi without feeling like your wasting valuable amp time.

    Of course point is moot because the dang skill only shows up in AH once in a blue moon for 20m. I can't bring myself to drop 4.5m at the CHANCE to make the book either QQ
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  • tweakz
    tweakz Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    I don't see why it's discussed. Both are good and wouldn't sway my choice toward either Demon or Sage. Just don't over write my sage with your demon and I'm happy.
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