Would you like packs gone?

I voted yes.
In my opinion, it'd probably be fine to have them every now and then. But every so often like this, I don't want them.

None, but sadly, we are screwed either way.

With packs - Cheaper....well....everything, like Subs, Do-alls, basic needs in 1 sense. Gold expensive though....

Without packs - Basic needs becomes expensive.....gold is cheaper though.



Packs.....a cursed blessing.b:surrender

I am neutral to this...

Yes
-I don't like when people are buying equipment and other ingame stuff from packs. It is just nothing but real money trading.
-Too much oracles, we need extra spirit, not extra exp

No
-shards are cheaper
-getting some other cash shop items are cheaper
-it is good for cash shoppers and smart merchants, boohoo for you if your being a free player and not knowing how to merchant

I have to say, stop QQing about packs. If you want it gone, then ask the devs to trade for people to add 200k from coins to gold for AH fees in gold trading

Kephras - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Doesn't matter. PWE makes money so packs stay. What we think is irrelevant to their profit margins, and until that changes, we get the big hard shaft - or ragequit.

well quitting would be a bore... xD But people have to get over the packs, if a lot of people are buying them, it would never matter to the ones that complain. Like knownase said, it is a cursed blessing

Zoe - Heavens Tear wrote: »

To quote a famous dictator "Of course!" (I wonder how many people will get that reference)

The game was much better before they existed.

well it was worse / better... before and after... I hated it when gold trading was low, how can you make good money without spending a few dollars? But I won't mind if packs goes. But at least gold prices high, best way to make money b:dirty

No, actually you do not make more money by selling gold when gold prices are high. Do you know why? The price of EVERYTHING ELSE is also high. In the end it evens out, and all high gold prices do are hurt the server.

One great thing about an mmo that came out last year. I told them on their fourms while they were still developing the game about the plague that is resellers and how they would ruin the game.

They listened. Reselling is not possible, therefore prices are not going up.

Sure, ruin the game for all the new players. Read my edit to my previous post.

Packs are delicious - low token price and high gold = 30mil profit just today. b:dirty

Zoe - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I can't argue thatb:surrender

High prices however do make new players unable to do anything since they can't hope to afford it. This is bad.

In the mmo where reselling was made impossible, new players can still easily afford things. Therefore, the game is pretty popular.

It also makes the acquisition of cash shop items impossible by people who are unable to charge zen, further widening the gap between cash shoppers and average joes.

You either need a boutique that doesn't include game-breaking items such as faster mounts, better gear, 100% refines etc, or you need to make that available to everyone.

You seem to be under the impression that suppliers set the prices. However, in a competitive market such as that of an MMO, most people are price takers - that is, there is enough competition such that no supplier has influence over the price.

If I go and buy all the tokens for 15k and put them back on in my shop for 100k, somebody else will just open a pack and sell the tokens for 95k.

If I go and buy up all the TT mats and resell them for 1m each, people will just go farm TT and sell them for 900k.

The process continues.

RainKilganon - Lost City wrote: »

When they first came out, yes I would have wanted them gone. I despised what they did to the game.

Now, I think they should be permanent. Taking them away randomly and bringing them back whenever is just messing up the market. The market is already so flooded with tokens and anything else from the packs that the entire economy is based on token price in a way. When packs disappear and tokens go up, prices get skewed because gold goes down, but tokens go up. If they make it a perm addition, then at least token prices stay consistant, so items like pots, shards, wines, and everything else tokens affect don't suddenly shoot up as gold goes down.

I was just about to point this, since they were my exact thoughts except for the part of making packs permanent

Around 4 months ago, PWI developers decided packs should NEVER leave the boutique, and thus jammed the market with you-name-it packs and covered for empty spaces with "x pack has returned for a "limited" (where limited means one and a half months) time!", as a direct result of packs being in the boutique forever, people slowly but steadily stopped buying them, since they knew they were always there for anytime they felt like dumping their money down the drain, as a direct result economy started stabilizing once again, gold dropped and tokens had little variations on price

PWI devs realized that their sales on packs were dropping, so they did the most simple thing possible: took packs off the boutique for barely more than a week to make token prices rise, however one of the devs had to pay for their boat sooner than they anticipated and they butted in tiger packs on a "emergency mantainance" to get cash sooner than today's maint (because they didn't fix any bugs that's for sure)

What surprised me the most was the community's response, everyone threw themselves over the "new" packs like they were the holy grail WITH JUST LITTLE MORE THAN ONE WEEK OF NOT HAVING PACKS, I mean... for real?

My point is, as long as developers are greedy and people is... under the average IQ required to realize the plot behind the packs, packs will never leave the boutique, gold will never drop to an affordable price for newcomers and overall economy will remain ruined, yes i agree cash players keep this game free to play, however it seems like devs are trying to make zen the only way to get in-game coins

JanusZeal - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Packs gone? No. Duke spam gone? Yes.

PWI evidently loves red spam that we can't filter out.

It's a marketing gimmick, to make more people want to buy packs because they can see what other people are getting (when they're lucky) but not the packs opened that give only tokens.

If it wasn't a marketing gimmick, then we'd hear about the dungeon race and wraith attacks also, I'd assume.

TBH, on LC the red text is not horrible. Just makes me want to get packs...rofl.

Anyways....just why at the same time? b:chuckle

*shrugs* I like tokens anyways and so far have not done to bad with the Tigers...the other ones though I had **** luck so would most likely not get b:surrender

Tokens are cheaper when packs are on sale. I like cheap token, so pack sales are good for me.

Packs should be permanent and only 25 silver.
llooololloololololo!!!

i personally like the packs, at least the tokens that flood the market in abundance. why pay 120k coins for 100 NPC pots when I can currently pay 66k for 100 herb yuanxiao? IMO this more than compensates for the decrease in DQ item values.