To the Venos

PosionLove - Harshlands
PosionLove - Harshlands Posts: 14 Arc User
edited August 2010 in Venomancer
Please Be a Kind veno?
Let others catch the rare pets?
you could at least let other venos know what time the rare pets spawn
some of us poor people can't afford much so be nice ok?
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  • Lythianaa - Dreamweaver
    Lythianaa - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,307 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    I would think the same exact thing, but I highly doubt they will listen. It's a way to make money b:chuckle
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  • Desdi - Sanctuary
    Desdi - Sanctuary Posts: 8,680 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    What Lythianaa said...
    Venomancers who regularly go to the rare spawns not only do they have a lot of -channeling that gives you less chances to catch it but also will never tell you the coordinates or the hour.
    The spawn hour changes constantly depending on when the pet was tamed or killed last time. Every patch update also resets the time but it's not always reset to the same spawn time as the previews reset. You can check the auction house for the pets and see. Venomancers usually put them in auction as soon as they tame them. If you see they have 24-20 hours left it means the pet has spawned already.
    Keep trying though. You may be lucky and a -chan venomancer will fail and you'll catch it then.

    I used to go to spawns on a daily basis as well but decided to stop doing so. I didn't feel like investing so much into -chan gear and I got quite tired of the drama.

    Other classes may hate/dislike other classes but I think the hate among our own class, the venomancers with the venomancers, is the worst b:surrender
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  • Lythianaa - Dreamweaver
    Lythianaa - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,307 Arc User
    edited July 2010


    Other classes may hate/dislike other classes but I think the hate among our own class, the venomancers with the venomancers, is the worst b:surrender

    Heh heh, like herc venos vs. no herc venos for a start b:sad
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  • Yindra - Sanctuary
    Yindra - Sanctuary Posts: 784 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Please Be a Kind veno?
    Let others catch the rare pets?

    Yeah sure. Like that's going to happen.

    Some MMO"RP"Gs simply have stuff that's targeted towards 24/7 players, botters and other people that don't qualify as normal players. In Perfect World, rare pets are one of these things. This is why they are "rare" --- they are meant to make rich people richer.

    I just consider rare pets to be non-existent.

    'xcuse me, what were we talking about?
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  • Gasoline - Lost City
    Gasoline - Lost City Posts: 304 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Please Be a Kind veno?
    Let others catch the rare pets?
    you could at least let other venos know what time the rare pets spawn
    some of us poor people can't afford much so be nice ok?


    Thats like telling people with a faster mount not to dig up all mid/special mats on a route - because poor people with slower mounts needs them to.

    Or to tell people at Nien Beast event with +10 weapons to stop killing all the mobs before you can reach them.

    It really doesn't work that way in a competitive MMO.

    Venos with amazing gear dont give a **** about the fact that a lower level veno (that only invested a few weeks in this game) needs a kowlin to lure with or whatever - and cant afford 500k to buy one.

    I dont get why any high lvl veno would bother with rare pets spawns at all tho. You dont need the pet if you have herc/nix and rare pets dont sell for a lot of money. You make so much more farming TT or Nirvana than taming pets.

    It would gladly let anyone that actually needs the rare pet to tame it before me b:cute
  • Desdi - Sanctuary
    Desdi - Sanctuary Posts: 8,680 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    I dont get why any high lvl veno would bother with rare pets spawns at all tho. You dont need the pet if you have herc/nix and rare pets dont sell for a lot of money. You make so much more farming TT or Nirvana than taming pets.

    That's correct. The rare pets used to be so popular before most venomancers got their hercules/phoenix. That was about half an year ago or longer.
    I remember how even the frogling was 500k or more while pets like kowlin, windwalking piggy wwere at least 1.2mil-1.5mil but now it is clear that rare pets are not so wanted anymore.
    It was so hard for me to get the ones I wanted back then but as soon as I got them I stopped going there.

    Kowlin and Armored Bear still sell for 900k-1mil so I guess that still helps a bit. Also since it doesn't take too much time if you know the hour.
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  • MANray_ - Sanctuary
    MANray_ - Sanctuary Posts: 2,311 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Rares are a resource and anyone who's efficient collecting it deserves to reap the rewards of their labor. There is something low level venos can do, TEAM UP, the advantage of a social game is numbers can somewhat make up for the difference in gears/levels.

    What i do not agree with however is venos killing the spawn if they can't get it themselves, it's not being a good sport. Mind you this is only an opinion, it doesn't justify abusing them on chat either and certainly people sending tickets over this, as it was once done, is completely blowing things out of proportion. Rares are not that hard to get and every veno that wants one will probably eventually get it. Farming and merchanting to save enough to buy one has just as much merit as camping the spawn. The important thing to remember is rare pets are not free, either you must get very lucky or work hard one way or the other to get one.
  • Myrtle - Raging Tide
    Myrtle - Raging Tide Posts: 821 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    venomancer>solo class is supposed to be mean,greedy,selfish so deal with it :P
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  • KanariaRose - Archosaur
    KanariaRose - Archosaur Posts: 67 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    ehehe its never going to happenXD. I myself cant be bothered with making anything but baby snowhares and some days there's 2-3 venos camping even them out. Even thought i mostly catch snowhares for the purpose of giving them as gifts to friends, when i see other venos after him something happens inside me and i feel i MUST catch that furry cutie pie and usually doXD. Though i would never kill a rare pet if my tame failed


    Simplest rare pet to make ftw XD
  • Yulk - Heavens Tear
    Yulk - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,951 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    I caught some rare pets without spending too much time or hassle... but yeah, that was lucky me. I think it would be more fair if people learn to share
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  • XxRaynaHeart - Sanctuary
    XxRaynaHeart - Sanctuary Posts: 366 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Yeah, like that's ever going to happen.

    Do you really think people care about others so much to that extent? Money makes the world go round, even in a game, and it's all about the competition. Too bad if you can't afford, nobody really cares. b:cute
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  • Vixter - Harshlands
    Vixter - Harshlands Posts: 1,275 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Other classes may hate/dislike other classes but I think the hate among our own class, the venomancers with the venomancers, is the worst b:surrender[/COLOR]

    true true ... sadly. but its understandable, someone of the same class jealous of the other because of better things can cause a lot more hatred than say a robe veno vs a robe wizzy with better stuff... because same class, skills, etc, same abilities but the other one does it better xD

    venomancers should unite! lol.
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  • tweakz
    tweakz Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    true true ... sadly. but its understandable, someone of the same class jealous of the other because of better things can cause a lot more hatred than say a robe veno vs a robe wizzy with better stuff... because same class, skills, etc, same abilities but the other one does it better xD

    venomancers should unite! lol.

    Dunno about that. I view it as most lazy vit venos that aren't even good for DD'ing not even amping or using a fail pet because it's cute. Or the ones without a Herc that say they're better because of it. b:chuckle I can't hate wizzies because I feel sorry for them having played one. They also don't have much responsibility: just sit there nuking. Oh wait *edit: I do hate wizzies! Knocking back mobs into other mobs in FBs so my pet follows =s , not waiting for me to finish luring before they're trying to prove their aggro prowess (when they know I'm gonna SD), assuming their dps is better than mine because they're a wiz, etc.

    I think we had this discussion before, and every class is hateable, it's just we see the deficiencies in other venos easier because we know the class.
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  • Adeacia - Heavens Tear
    Adeacia - Heavens Tear Posts: 90 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    I got an armored bear by taming it myself, and got a tabby free from a friend. Both of them I got a very long time ago and they are still in my pet bag to this day.
  • tweakz
    tweakz Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    I got an armored bear by taming it myself, and got a tabby free from a friend. Both of them I got a very long time ago and they are still in my pet bag to this day.

    Anyone wanna buy a Lv. 100 Armored Bear? b:laugh
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  • AKshaYa - Archosaur
    AKshaYa - Archosaur Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    So many greedy Veno out there... I even see the same Veno catching the same pet every 12 hours b:angry and I really don't know what is she doing with those rare pets...

    One time a Veno told us to come back after 12 hours because she will not be there, and when we came back, she is the first player on the same spot...

    I only manage to have the rare rabbit because it re spawn every hour b:chuckle. I spoke to my faction that if they want a baby pet, I am willing to give them eggs for baby elysium, eidolon or a rabbit which may cost them 100-200k instead of buying it from greedy Veno which will cost them 500-800k.
  • Desdi - Sanctuary
    Desdi - Sanctuary Posts: 8,680 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Don't believe or trust the venomancers at the spawn unless they are your friends/your know them. Most of the time they will lie about the hour, about the pet, about themselves. Not to mention that they'll easily show off just so you will see she has every rare pet possible and you don't.

    This is what I can't stand at the spawns. I know someone who goes at the spawns everyday because that is her only way to raise money for her future armour (and I won't mention the reasons to why this is her only way of income) however if the other venomancers would ask, she answers to them, she doesn't lie and she doesn't show off at all. I don't mind mind that. It sure is annoying though if you are trying to tame it for yourself.

    Ahh well it's not as if we can do something but it would be nice if all venomancers would unite b:chuckle WE WOULD DOMINATE PWI! Veno Power.
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  • MindCrime - Harshlands
    MindCrime - Harshlands Posts: 544 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    tweakz wrote: »
    Dunno about that. I view it as most lazy vit venos that aren't even good for DD'ing

    I think we had this discussion before, and every class is hateable, it's just we see the deficiencies in other venos easier because we know the class.

    You don't know what everyones stats are, so stop with the 'lazy vit veno' comments. It really is old.

    Your arrogance is based on the assumption that you know everything. Hardly.
  • kisjozisi
    kisjozisi Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Someone should be nice enough to give me TT/Lunar/nirvana gears for free and everything else I want!...Just because your a poor low/high lvl veno who want rare pets for "personal use" doesnt mean you can get it without problem. You have a tame skill and thats all...Higher lvl venos probably started to tame cause they needed herc.etc.They invested in expensive gears and they use them to make money. So? If some1 "need" rare pets for personal use doesnt mean she has more right to tame it......

    There are like 5(?) kinds of venos : 1. Venos who can tame/farm rare pets-->have better stuffs than you do
    2. Venos who are low lvl or high lvl but poor(...)-->they hate tamer venos /herc venos, want rare pets for free and cry all the time
    3. Venos who are farming something else.They dont really care about rare pets.
    4.Venos who dont even know what rare pets are but want them.
    5.Venos who tame but follow the supernice and superpoor path.
  • tweakz
    tweakz Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    @ OP: This is a game (which is competitive), if you don't like games: don't play.

    Otherwise: I should let others win Nien Event, I should do Nirvana runs, and TT for nothing. I should bend over for you and thank you for it. -nty!

    btw, I've never tamed a rare pet or even attempted it.
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  • Maiira - Sanctuary
    Maiira - Sanctuary Posts: 190 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    along the lines of calling some1 lazy cause of their build or pet choice, i bet ud laught at me. but if u were on same server as me in pk mode id stomp u into the ground because of your arrogance and ignorance. build determines nothing anymore. i know alot of vit venos, and la venos. that i would take on runs with me anyday over a mag veno. even other classes, one of the best barbs ive done a fcc with was a demon fist barb. skill makes differences in build irrelevant.
    lvl101 LA/AA demon veno ftw, 15251 hp buffed, 13508 buffed pdef in human. able to use tt100 fists at 5 aps w/ genie. all from 2 years of work... WASTED
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  • LloydAsplund - Sanctuary
    LloydAsplund - Sanctuary Posts: 3,899 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Why dont you just find out spawn time yourselves? All the other venos do the same. Why must they do the work and then tell you? This thread is just basically QQing.
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  • tweakz
    tweakz Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    along the lines of calling some1 lazy cause of their build or pet choice, i bet ud laught at me. but if u were on same server as me in pk mode id stomp u into the ground because of your arrogance and ignorance. build determines nothing anymore. i know alot of vit venos, and la venos. that i would take on runs with me anyday over a mag veno. even other classes, one of the best barbs ive done a fcc with was a demon fist barb. skill makes differences in build irrelevant.

    Not impressive. When I see people in game that were boasting here: they're a far cry from as good as they made themselves out to be. Grats for your self esteem, now watch Penn and Tellers Bull**** - Self Esteem episode.
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  • MANray_ - Sanctuary
    MANray_ - Sanctuary Posts: 2,311 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    tweakz wrote: »
    Not impressive. When I see people in game that were boasting here: they're a far cry from as good as they made themselves out to be. Grats for your self esteem, now watch Penn and Tellers Bull**** - Self Esteem episode.

    It's a great show. I especially like how they stand up for freedom and choice, and people's right to be and do whatever thay want. And most of all, i like how they take on the a****les that would have others do the same as them. Might want to catch up on a couple of episodes yourself...
  • Megabyte_ - Heavens Tear
    Megabyte_ - Heavens Tear Posts: 30 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    It's a great show. I especially like how they stand up for freedom and choice, and people's right to be and do whatever thay want. And most of all, i like how they take on the a****les that would have others do the same as them. Might want to catch up on a couple of episodes yourself...

    I lol-ed at this... nicely put.
  • xixiri
    xixiri Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    It will never happen because people are GREEDY.
    I would catch you one but I only have -9% channeling. b:shutup
  • Brael - Dreamweaver
    Brael - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,430 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    along the lines of calling some1 lazy cause of their build or pet choice, i bet ud laught at me. but if u were on same server as me in pk mode id stomp u into the ground because of your arrogance and ignorance. build determines nothing anymore. i know alot of vit venos, and la venos. that i would take on runs with me anyday over a mag veno. even other classes, one of the best barbs ive done a fcc with was a demon fist barb. skill makes differences in build irrelevant.

    Good players with bad builds are still good. Good players with good builds are great. You don't typically see a good player with a bad build though because one of the marks of a good player is having a good build. That doesn't necessarily mean a conventional build though. Some of the conventional builds are rather bad (vit arcane, I'm looking at you) while others are quite good (pure mag/ha are both great). At the same time, an unconventional build isn't necessarily going to be bad, see the thread about the 5 aps veno for example.

    I imagine a demon fist barb would be able to hold aggro really well. He would probably lack a bit on the defense side of things, and run into a few more charm ticks, but that's pretty minor.
  • Silest - Sanctuary
    Silest - Sanctuary Posts: 816 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    A real nice barb gave me a Kowlin for free the other day.

    He said "I want to make someone's day".

    I THINK he was an ex-veno.

    I've never seen a rare pet, and don't think I ever will if I tried? I'm pretty grateful.
  • Mayfly - Dreamweaver
    Mayfly - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,094 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    I encountered by chance and tamed a frogling. I've encountered snowhares a few times, tamed one once (other times I was on non-veno chars, or busy with other mobs and it raced off, not to be seen again. The latter was by South Barrier Village, the others by Timberfield.) Other than that, I haven't seen any rare pets in the wild, partly because I can't be bothered to actually look for them.
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  • DemonGal - Lost City
    DemonGal - Lost City Posts: 12 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    It's part of the game. Competition. Plus those mobs are rare for a reason.