Paracitic nova
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LadyBats - Archosaur
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One guide says its useless, one says its useful but situational. So im wondering, should i even bother picking it up? Once i gain 10 lvls of courseb:thanks
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TBh its useless until you zhenn or do FF... for normal mobs farming/questing you dont need it (can use it but its not a necesity) . but once you start doing FF/RB you will necessarly need it.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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lvl 1 nova doesnt have bad dmg at all, for starters anyways. and it only costs like 120k to get lvl 1. so, picking up at least lvl 1, even when u can upgrade it higher, would be adviseable. the question is to lvl it up further than 1. and i would say once u get to be about 85-90+ (depending on how much you do FC or RB (gv)) then you would want to lvl it to the max.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Parasitic Nova is not useless at all. There's no useless skill. They all have something to offer in the right place, the right moment.
Like Andromaka said, when you grind/farm/quest you don't really need it (unless you feel like doing some AOE party). Using spark eruption and lucky scarab or ironwood will make it go way faster. I'd suggest it to buy it when you have the money and keep it at level one or two. If you're planning on doing rebirth gamma level up parasitic nova at lvl 70s (just mentioning gamma because gamma and delta seem to be the one people do the most). If you plan on doing FCC runs but not RB you can start leveling it by lvl 80.
Or you can simply level it up whenever you have spare money if you don't want to leave it "out of date" compared to the other skills.
Parasitic nova is wanted in RB/FCC because it has the ability to seal multiple mobs and making them take more damage at the same time. Combined with a BM's HF skill, it's awesome![SIGPIC]http://i.imgur.com/MtwcqjL.png[/SIGPIC]
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You are on a PvE server. but if you plan on PKing, you absolutely need it.
lvl 10 nova has saved my butt numerous times in PvP.0 -
Desdi - Sanctuary wrote: »Parasitic nova is wanted in RB/FCC because it has the ability to seal multiple mobs and making them take more damage at the same time. Combined with a BM's HF skill, it's awesome!
For regular grinding, the 2-spark cost makes the skill useless. you'll do more damage using the sparks as an eruption and firing off your regular skills.
For easy AOE killing, again the 2-spark cost makes the skill difficult to justify. I suspect saving the sparks for Noxious Gas will yield more damage than squeezing a Nova in between.
Where Nova shines is when you can really use the seal effect. It's most useful in difficult AOE where the seal will cut down the damage your group is taking from mobs. But has its place against single targets too (e.g. stopping bishops from casting in FC in between Lucky's cooldown). It's also handy in PvP since it's effectively (a 67% chance at) an AOE stun.
Costs a fortune to level it though (a bit over 4 mil to get it to level 10).0 -
I think since you're on a PvE server, it can remain at lvl 1. It is already decent damage but costing two sparks is expensive in terms of chi. Instead, I would rather use a maxed out noxious gas and myriad rainbow in foxform. It is up to you, because nova does have it's positive features to it, such as chaotic and taking more damage.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Solandri - Heavens Tear wrote: »Just so nobody is confused/mislead, the extra damage effect is only on the Demon version of Nova. The seal effect is on all versions (the "chaotic" effect is essentially a seal/stun).
Oops. That's right. Still good for AOE-ing with your squad though b:pleased[SIGPIC]http://i.imgur.com/MtwcqjL.png[/SIGPIC]
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Lythianaa - Dreamweaver wrote: »I would rather use a maxed out noxious gas and myriad rainbow in foxform.
First off, yay for noxious gasXD im officially addicted to this skill. Maybe it has something to do with my fondness for poison amazons on diablo II >.>. BUt myriad rainbow for foxform? Stupid question but should i get that? I have amp damage as high as i can right now and lvl 1 purge. I think im supposed to max amp as far as i understand, but im the only veno i see using it in bh29/fb's lol. Im arcane not ha, bother with the foxy rainbow?0 -
LadyBats - Archosaur wrote: »First off, yay for noxious gasXD im officially addicted to this skill. Maybe it has something to do with my fondness for poison amazons on diablo II >.>. BUt myriad rainbow for foxform? Stupid question but should i get that? I have amp damage as high as i can right now and lvl 1 purge. I think im supposed to max amp as far as i understand, but im the only veno i see using it in bh29/fb's lol. Im arcane not ha, bother with the foxy rainbow?
Even if you're not HA veno, Myriad rainbow fox form is way too good to overlook. AoE instant cast that only costs 30 chi. Can have the chance to cause armor break and magical break. Even without those two, it can cause poison DoT and bleed as well. Extremely useful in tight AoE situations and very fun to use in FCs, where things can be sped up.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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I didn't even get or try Nova til my 90s. I thought it was stupid to blow 2 chi bars on it when I could spark an and Noxious. Now I think it's one of the funnest / most useful skills.Be kind: Help the GMs to depopulate the servers.0
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SerenityMare - Dreamweaver wrote: »I really like using it in PQ.. and also sometimes FBs/BHs. xD
FBs fo sho! So long as I don't have a bunch of melee classes swooping in in an attempt to help but really just blocking visibility and targetting on which mobs got froze and which didn't.Be kind: Help the GMs to depopulate the servers.0 -
Parasitic Nova is the best skill venomancers have. It's very useful in pve and pvp. Like many people have already said: for frost and rebirth instances people will expect you to have maximum level available. Nova is as good as a BM aoe stun, so it can save lives and even replace a BM in frost. In PvP this skill could turn the tide of a battle if seal hits. At level 10 if your target gets sealed you get 8 seconds of free shots.
What is even better than Parasitic Nova is the demon version of this skill. Any target that gets sealed will also receive 30% more damage.0 -
Desdi - Sanctuary wrote: »There's no useless skill. They all have something to offer in the right place, the right moment.
how about frost scarab????
(assuming when we talk about wood-immunes, u cast an ironwood to help melees do more dmg and u cast a blazing to do a small bit of dmg, and for the rest of teh time ur in foxmode or casting 79 debuffs,... the spark is better to give to someone else than to use it imo,... and if not talking about wood-immunes, i dont see where that frost scarab can have a use)0 -
how about frost scarab????
(assuming when we talk about wood-immunes, u cast an ironwood to help melees do more dmg and u cast a blazing to do a small bit of dmg, and for the rest of teh time ur in foxmode or casting 79 debuffs,... the spark is better to give to someone else than to use it imo,... and if not talking about wood-immunes, i dont see where that frost scarab can have a use)
Frost scarab MIGHT be used in PvP. Think it was demon that it was somewhat decent. But still don't think it's worth it :P[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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i like dark frost scarab, wow that over time dmg is painful, and can also paralize the enemy. very nice for pvp, but even mobs, the skill does very nice dmg, if you dont care to use a spark XD[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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how about frost scarab????
(assuming when we talk about wood-immunes, u cast an ironwood to help melees do more dmg and u cast a blazing to do a small bit of dmg,
The only non-melee veno damage I've gotten to stick on a wood-immune mob is the fire DoT on Myriad Rainbow. The mind and armor breaks can land too, but not the poison DoT.0 -
how about frost scarab????
(assuming when we talk about wood-immunes, u cast an ironwood to help melees do more dmg and u cast a blazing to do a small bit of dmg, and for the rest of teh time ur in foxmode or casting 79 debuffs,... the spark is better to give to someone else than to use it imo,... and if not talking about wood-immunes, i dont see where that frost scarab can have a use)
Of course passing chi to the tank or a wizard that needs it is my priority. I only use frost scarab if I have spare chi. I use it because it has a chance to inflict frostbite and add more to the DoTs of the boss and it's stronger than venomous scarab anyway. I cast it once or twice while fighting the boss and usually 1 out of 2 (sometimes even 2 out of 2) I get the frostbite. The rest goes to tank, ironwood and sparks for myself. Since I can build chi fast and have one more DoT skill, why not use it?
But let's not get off topic b:chuckle[SIGPIC]http://i.imgur.com/MtwcqjL.png[/SIGPIC]
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Demon Frost Scarab (3s immobilize) FTW!
WTB Demon Parasitic Nova[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
I love Nova.. I suggest you get it.. cause even if its useless in your opinion (it certainly isnt in mine.. very useful in FCC, zhen or PVP) it looks cool. b:pleased[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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JollyJaguar - Sanctuary wrote: »I love Nova.. I suggest you get it.. cause even if its useless in your opinion (it certainly isnt in mine.. very useful in FCC, zhen or PVP) it looks cool. b:pleased
That's right! XD A lot of times I find myself using it just because it's cool.[SIGPIC]http://i.imgur.com/MtwcqjL.png[/SIGPIC]
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Flying Purple Skulls of Death FTW
... One of the three reasons to use venomancers. ^^
Others being TT runs and pets. :P[SIGPIC]http://www.otakuwiki.com/images/thumb/4/4b/Harada01.jpg/150px-Harada01.jpg[/SIGPIC]
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It's a wonderful WONDERFUL skill.
... that costs two sparks. And has a long cooldown.
If you've got the sparks, it's great. Use it. And noxious builds a lot of chi, so that's good.
It's rarely a good idea to open with it though - you tend to steal aggro rather a lot.0 -
Nova is great in frost. A demon BM can fire a no-miss 10 meter AOE stun that lasts 6 seconds. So, count to 3 after he stuns, then start parasitic nova (it takes 3ish seconds to channel). Then, mobs that are sealed (2/3s of them, on average) are effectively stunned for another 8 seconds for a practical eternity of 14 seconds. And if you've got the demon veno version, they're amped for 8 seconds too.
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Nova, Frost, Noxious love them all. I'm sage so I'm usually getting chi so fast it doesn't matter. Sage nova while not granting the extra damage of Demon allows for a % chance (can't remember the % atm) for using one spark not two. So that would be sweet in RB, BH. I know I use Nova in Warsong consistantly when we pull a group. Frost has that lovely additional water damage of 3k+ (I think ... sorry don't have game logged to check) at lvl 10. Granted I didn't lvl that one up until after I had 3 sparks.
Nova has saved my squads a few times due to aggro exchanges and my personal purpose of making sure the cleric doesn't die.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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