Barrens boas.

DrDrakkentre - Lost City
DrDrakkentre - Lost City Posts: 55 Arc User
edited October 2010 in General Discussion
Couldn't their reflect be toned down or chan time increased? They are such a pain for melee classes its not even funny. I've dieed alot there on bm and sin 1 shotted himself on those.... And I'm betting alot of the newbies have trouble with them. I mean, the reflect is ok, but with player's low hp vs mob's insane hp makes it abit unfair.
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  • prolog42
    prolog42 Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    hi, have you met kun kun?
    how about staunch worms?
    :)
  • DrDrakkentre - Lost City
    DrDrakkentre - Lost City Posts: 55 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    prolog42 wrote: »
    hi, have you met kun kun?
    how about staunch worms?
    :)

    You don't kill yourself on them <__<
  • Conavar - Heavens Tear
    Conavar - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,193 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    DrDrakkentre - Lost City wrote: »
    Couldn't their reflect be toned down or chan time increased? They are such a pain for melee classes its not even funny. I've dieed alot there on bm and sin 1 shotted himself on those.... And I'm betting alot of the newbies have trouble with them. I mean, the reflect is ok, but with player's low hp vs mob's insane hp makes it abit unfair.

    Yes they are tough for melee classes. I remember back in the day they were a Royal pain in the butt, but IMO thats good.

    Mobs with Special buffs or Attacks teach you have to play your class properly and how to adapt to changing situations. Which is what alot of the current oracle/hyper FF run players miss out on.

    I died a few times on the Boa's myself, but makes you sit back and think what to do better next time. So Imo leave as is.
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  • ACLucius - Archosaur
    ACLucius - Archosaur Posts: 610 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Assassins- Use a combination of Knife Throw, bow, Puncture Wound, Deep Sting, Throatcut and you can avoid a lot of problems with them.

    Blademaster- pick up your polearm and use a combination of Drake's Ray and Farstrike. If you are a Fist Blademaster, just grab a bow, you do about the same damage anyways.
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  • Darkjagans - Heavens Tear
    Darkjagans - Heavens Tear Posts: 478 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Hmmmm I remember those, I died a few times back in my days, I think when you see the reflect buff, you can just stun it or run around a bit and let the reflect wear off and you can then you can continue killing it. (at least that's what i think I did)
  • Sirrobert - Dreamweaver
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,395 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Hit hard instead of fast and the reflect won't hurt you as bad.
    Also when you see him casting it grab your bow, every sin should have 1 anyway
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  • Linwiz - Lost City
    Linwiz - Lost City Posts: 306 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    ACLucius - Archosaur wrote: »
    Knife Throw

    Is considered by the game to be a melee attack, go find a veno, duel them, have them put bramble on, tada, damage is reflected
  • Sirrobert - Dreamweaver
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,395 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Linwiz - Lost City wrote: »
    Is considered by the game to be a melee attack, go find a veno, duel them, have them put bramble on, tada, damage is reflected

    Easier test
    have bloodpaint on and use knife throw at max range. You'll get a bloodsuck over your head as if you poked someone
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  • Linwiz - Lost City
    Linwiz - Lost City Posts: 306 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Easier test
    have bloodpaint on and use knife throw at max range. You'll get a bloodsuck over your head as if you poked someone

    Heh that works to I guess, just was saying duel a veno b/c then you can see the reflect
  • SilversMoon - Heavens Tear
    SilversMoon - Heavens Tear Posts: 292 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Conavar - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Yes they are tough for melee classes. I remember back in the day they were a Royal pain in the butt, but IMO thats good.

    Mobs with Special buffs or Attacks teach you have to play your class properly and how to adapt to changing situations. Which is what alot of the current oracle/hyper FF run players miss out on.

    I died a few times on the Boa's myself, but makes you sit back and think what to do better next time. So Imo leave as is.

    +1.

    It's a pain I will not deny, but teaches you melee class how to handle such situations.
    Where ranged or such combination might be a must. Good practice.
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  • Lylfo - Dreamweaver
    Lylfo - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,166 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    You know, if you really cant stand the snakes, you can always choose to squad.

    I remember the towers around fb 69 was very hard for me. 1 mistake in timing or heal and I'll go down. But then I saw another barb, asked him to squad and we did the quest together.
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  • Esnemyl - Dreamweaver
    Esnemyl - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,079 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Lylfo - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    You know, if you really cant stand the snakes, you can always choose to squad.

    ^ this
    Always good to ask someone whos killing the same stuff if they can squad with you ^^
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  • Quilue - Sanctuary
    Quilue - Sanctuary Posts: 5,787 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    ACLucius - Archosaur wrote: »
    Assassins- Use a combination of Knife Throw, bow, Puncture Wound, Deep Sting, Throatcut and you can avoid a lot of problems with them.

    Blademaster- pick up your polearm and use a combination of Drake's Ray and Farstrike. If you are a Fist Blademaster, just grab a bow, you do about the same damage anyways.

    no any ranged attack still reflects, including Drake's Ray and Farstrike as well.

    Bow works tho. Another idea would be to try to interrupt the snake when you see them channeling I'd think; mobs are generally pretty predictable on when they'll self buff or debuff you.

    Anyway if you think those mobs suck for melee classes, wait til you get to the magic only mobs later lol...the ones that cast and run because they lack a melee attack...
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  • NightRage - Raging Tide
    NightRage - Raging Tide Posts: 1,582 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Waah game isn't easy enough.
  • DrDrakkentre - Lost City
    DrDrakkentre - Lost City Posts: 55 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Hit hard instead of fast and the reflect won't hurt you as bad.
    Also when you see him casting it grab your bow(This is why i suggested abit of chan time increase), every sin should have 1 anyway
    Hard is dangerous, if it casts reflect just as you hit it, hard has a tendency to drain your HP...
    The reflect buff is FAST, like bramble, I tried hitting Esc when it casts and still get hit sometimes QQ
    Bow works tho. Another idea would be to try to interrupt the snake when you see them channeling I'd think; mobs are generally pretty predictable on when they'll self buff or debuff you.

    This doesn't seem to happen with boas... sometimes they cast it really early, sometimes twice, sometimes at the end and sometimes never O.O
    run around a bit and let the reflect wear off and you can then you can continue killing it. (at least that's what i think I did)
    Lmao yea this I did, twice... rest of the time i kill myself before atks stop
  • Kephras - Heavens Tear
    Kephras - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,472 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    DrDrakkentre - Lost City wrote: »
    ...and sin 1 shotted himself on those....

    b:chuckleb:laugh ah-hahahahaha...
    Oh man, I wish I could've been there to see it.
    Made my day, thank you!
    b:thanks
  • Katzyn - Sanctuary
    Katzyn - Sanctuary Posts: 1,270 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Lylfo - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    You know, if you really cant stand the snakes, you can always choose to squad.

    I remember the towers around fb 69 was very hard for me. 1 mistake in timing or heal and I'll go down. But then I saw another barb, asked him to squad and we did the quest together.

    ^ This. As a cleric, I was very willing to help others with this quest. As a veno, my pet died a lot, and I learned how tough it is for melees.
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  • DrDrakkentre - Lost City
    DrDrakkentre - Lost City Posts: 55 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Kephras - Heavens Tear wrote: »

    b:chuckleb:laugh ah-hahahahaha...
    Oh man, I wish I could've been there to see it.
    Made my day, thank you!
    b:thanks

    Lucky crit?b:surrender
  • __Nanayo__ - Dreamweaver
    __Nanayo__ - Dreamweaver Posts: 106 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Grab a bow and gun 'em down. Poison didn't hurt nearly as much as punching myself in the face did, and with a decent bow they dropped reasonably fast. As a sin, you should have an even easier time, since you don't have to stop to swap weapons to apply Magic Marrow, and your higher bow damage and crits would drop them faster than I did. =)

    Or just watch their HP better and save stuns/sleep/whatever for just before the point they'd start casting and shred 'em while they slumber. >=D
  • btornado
    btornado Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    LOLZ just wait till later when 80% of your quests are for ranged casters. you build the skills now questing. BH has removed that so there's loads of noobs that can't play.
  • Adurnadghr - Archosaur
    Adurnadghr - Archosaur Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Hit hard instead of fast and the reflect won't hurt you as bad.
    Also when you see him casting it grab your bow, every sin should have 1 anyway

    <- Full damage + Refrect Back = Died in one hit by myself

    WEll, I'm just using bow since I have like 200++ Dex I can deal about 2k damage / hit...
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  • akatsuchi
    akatsuchi Posts: 71 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    .....much respect for people that still do quests now a days instead of hyper-ing to 90 in less than a week or two.

    My lady and I always help lower levels with tough situations and quests.

    We always played ranged classes so we never had that problem. And when she was on her BM I had my high level cleric take care of it while she followed. But like some said, just learn to adapt to the current situation at hand b:pleased

    Quests can indeed teach you a thing or two about your class, which is something that I've noticed a huge lack of ever since hypers / oracles came to surface.

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  • Borsuc - Raging Tide
    Borsuc - Raging Tide Posts: 1,526 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    I completed all my quests. (at the level I got them usually)
    I hypered FC numerous times.
    I BH'd daily.

    so...
    ...yeah.

    also: Necro.
  • Quilue - Sanctuary
    Quilue - Sanctuary Posts: 5,787 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Lol i did the quest on my bm too...and wiz, and cleric, and veno >.>

    On magic mobs later on, most of them will have a pattack, so it's easy to just interrupt their cast and resume fighting like it's a melee mob. On the ones that only have a mattack and kite...well you're **** out of luck and should probably squad with someone.
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  • Krisnda - Lost City
    Krisnda - Lost City Posts: 1,465 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Conavar - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Yes they are tough for melee classes. I remember back in the day they were a Royal pain in the butt, but IMO thats good.

    Mobs with Special buffs or Attacks teach you have to play your class properly and how to adapt to changing situations. Which is what alot of the current oracle/hyper FF run players miss out on.

    I died a few times on the Boa's myself, but makes you sit back and think what to do better next time. So Imo leave as is.

    Very true, i think that those mobs like sac. assault, increased attack, increased magic attack, helps you think about how you fight instead of just double clicking for auto attacking, or just clicking your macro button to kill something, then complain when things are hard. They are hard for a reason, to make the game more interesting. For example, I hate Increased Magic resistance mobs because my normal human moves do nothing to it, so hmm... aha i have foxform + amp and sparks which kills the mob faster than me being in human form. If things were easy, then there would be no real point to playing the game, besides just getting to lv 10x.

    edit: necro ><
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  • Alphae - Lost City
    Alphae - Lost City Posts: 1,512 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    I find that completing your alts' quests are really the only way to get a true feel for their skills and how their game play works, even though it does become a pain to kill the same mob a zillion different times between characters, give or take.
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  • SashaGray - Heavens Tear
    SashaGray - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,765 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    confucious say: if punching bramble hurts don't punch.

    there are very few mob kill quests that are actually required to advance, if one is giving you too much trouble to be worth the quest reward, dont do it.
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  • buttercupcruella
    buttercupcruella Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    NECRO!!!!

    Also, the barrens are painful, but make you learn...

    NECRO!!!
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  • SashaGray - Heavens Tear
    SashaGray - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,765 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    buttercupcruella wrote: »
    NECRO!!!!

    Also, the barrens are painful, but make you learn...

    NECRO!!!

    unless the barrens boas dont bramble anymore, topic is still relevant.
    why do people cream their shorts to yell necro when a topic hasnt been posted in for a month?

    whats the point of "search is your friend" when you arent allowed to talk to your friend?
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  • Alphae - Lost City
    Alphae - Lost City Posts: 1,512 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    SashaGray - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    unless the barrens boas dont bramble anymore, topic is still relevant.
    why do people cream their shorts to yell necro when a topic hasnt been posted in for a month?

    whats the point of "search is your friend" when you arent allowed to talk to your friend?

    I think that the point of not necroing threads is to not revive information that could possibly be outdated. That being said, this thread is still totally relevant.
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