Why do they suck so much?

Amour - Lost City wrote: »

I don't think the quests were designed to be done by any class @ 5x. I would think only a veno with a herc could successfully do those with no trouble at all.

I did the "kill 15 soldiers/15 officers" at lvl53 (without any buff) with a Glacial Walker, and almost finished the whole chain quest before lvl60. I'm stuck at the final boss of course, now way you can solo that. Glacial walkers are quite good against regular mobs but there's no miracle, they're totally useless against bosses.

Borsuc - Raging Tide wrote: »

You got through with a cleric but not with a wiz????

I'm not talking the usual BS that says "wizards hit harder than clerics" because this is NOT about hitting hard, it's about damage-per-second (kill fast).

And Gush is identical to Great Cyclone (except better range for gush...) and Pyrogram is almost the same as Plume Shot, except that pyro has faster casting (channeling same). You should also have Will of the Phoenix, see if it does more damage (it should).

If you got through with a cleric with similar spells (a bit worse even!) I think you probably have no idea that slow spells plain suck at DPS. Gush->Pyro->Gush->Pyro and add a phoenix from time to time = best DPS.

Because if not, and you were actually spamming gush and pyro, it makes no sense to get through with a cleric but not wiz.

I'm 100% sure you used Sandstorm or Glacial Snare or other slow spells. b:cute

I only had a hard time with archer with tideborn traitor. I actually had to ask for help lol. But with wizard and cleric should not be hard.

I ALWAYS use gush and kite. I use hailstorm to freeze, and also pitfall... My wizzie is almost pure mag (0.5 VIT per LVL) with a heretic banishing pataka with M.ATK bonus and with a sapphire shard. I did kill slow, but at least that works. Oh and I use morning dew after WOP + distance shrink away from target

Yes I know phoenix would aggro the others if you start with it, but you should start with pyrogram->gush and repeat until mob is close. If you start phoenix before mob starts channeling (i.e still running to you for a fraction of a second), you will push it back without even hitting you (cancelling his channeling in the process), but you have to learn to time by experience.

And yes that quest will require you to burn potions like crazy, or charms if you have any.

As for sparking, let me give you a tip. Spark adds a specific damage to your base magic attack. For example, 200% weapon damage (normal spark, you'll later get double sparks and sage/demon sparks).

This increases your base magic attack only. In effect, it adds 200% weapon damage to all spells. (except those that don't use base magic attack, like emberstorm) (another exception is blade tempest, where it deals twice base magic attack, one physical one fire, so it gets double that (400%) from spark).

You can figure out by this that the fastest spells will benefit the most. Since all spells get 200% weapon damage extra, to "use" these 200% weapon damage the most in those 10 seconds it's best to cast as many spells as possible. That means, always prefer fast spells when sparking for dps (not damage-per-hit but per second).

Which is why Divine Pyrogram is not good when sparking if you want DPS. It wastes too much time channeling and it gets same bonus (200% weapon damage) from sparking. By that time you could have casted pyrogram->gush and get 400% (2 spells) extra from spark.

Yulk - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I only had a hard time with archer with tideborn traitor. I actually had to ask for help lol. But with wizard and cleric should not be hard.

With the second tideborn traitor, it's impossible to solo with a wiz at that level (with average equip not over-the-top for that lvl), because he's too fast to kite... but I thought this thread was about the time-limited quest you get to kill undead soldiers then officers.

Hailstorm & Pitfall are too unreliable to kite, and hailstorm is too slow to cast to effectively kite. Gush is far superior.

Wouldnt Gush -> Pyro be more useful since your most likely going to slow them down.
Morning dew while fighting .. very interesting lol

Acoi - Lost City wrote: »

Wouldnt Gush -> Pyro be more useful since your most likely going to slow them down.

There's a delay between casting pyrogram and the mob coming at you, you can start casting gush in that time. And although it doesn't slow them down as much, pyro takes longer to channel than gush. (i.e better opener)