emberstorm

wozzzy
wozzzy Posts: 0 Arc User
edited August 2010 in Wizard
Is the damage it causes affected by base magic damage? Ecatomb makes it sound as tho it doesnt, but it could just be a typo.
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  • /Groovy/ - Harshlands
    /Groovy/ - Harshlands Posts: 688 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    I'm fairly sure it's not affected by base damage.

    Only lvl of the spell, charging time and your current HP affect the damage it deals.
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  • wozzzy
    wozzzy Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Awesome! Thank you
  • Alimion - Sanctuary
    Alimion - Sanctuary Posts: 47 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Wizzy armageddon, the demon version is fun
  • NonameWiz - Sanctuary
    NonameWiz - Sanctuary Posts: 506 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Go level more Ali >.< Only 95, do moar eff cee cee you lazy azz
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  • Yulk - Heavens Tear
    Yulk - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,951 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    emberstorm is useless unless you get demon version of it
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  • threepointone
    threepointone Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    HA Wiz with +10 Nirvana armor and G11 HP shards, using the level 0 Wand, and full VIT; spamming Emberstorm in TW is fun.
  • Alimion - Sanctuary
    Alimion - Sanctuary Posts: 47 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    NonameWiz - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Go level more Ali >.< Only 95, do moar eff cee cee you lazy azz

    Hey, I plan on 96 in a month or two....
  • Wozz - Harshlands
    Wozz - Harshlands Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    threepointone wrote: »
    HA Wiz with +10 Nirvana armor and G11 HP shards, using the level 0 Wand, and full VIT; spamming Emberstorm in TW is fun.

    Hell yeah! Cant wait till my build is done xD
  • HarmOwnie - Dreamweaver
    HarmOwnie - Dreamweaver Posts: 574 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Yulk - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    emberstorm is useless unless you get demon version of it

    are you sure you talk about demon version and not sage?
    50% stun sounds nice but 45% dmg taken instead of 60 looks more rewarding for me
    especially when a cleric heals or there is a bb
  • Borsuc - Raging Tide
    Borsuc - Raging Tide Posts: 1,526 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    I think the 45% less damage taken refers to the damage you take with emberstorm. So yes it's bad.

    50% chance to stun is decent since it's fast if you cancel immediately.
  • Tsuyoginos - Heavens Tear
    Tsuyoginos - Heavens Tear Posts: 133 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    HarmOwnie - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    are you sure you talk about demon version and not sage?
    50% stun sounds nice but 45% dmg taken instead of 60 looks more rewarding for me
    especially when a cleric heals or there is a bb

    This spell is pretty much useless pre-demon because you need to be so close to use it. The fact is with demon emberstorm (it seems, since I don't have it yet), that you cast it and then cancel it immediately just for the stun. 45% of hp is still a lot, and the damage return doesn't seem to be that great no matter what.
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  • fulgida
    fulgida Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Yulk - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    emberstorm is useless unless you get demon version of it

    There are three ways of using emberstorm:

    First, if you trigger the thing accidentally, you try to trigger again and you lose maybe 20% of your health and do minor damage to nearby enemies. This is not useless only in the sense that it is usually worse than useless.

    Second, if you have a high health build, no magic to speak of, heavy armor, lots of vitality, lots of refines, lots of health shards, and an opponent that you want to go away, you can do a lot of damage (or chase them away). You would want spark on your genie, for this build. You will not be doing much damage with your other skills though, so this is an extremely specialized build. Maybe you can equip axes and use frostblade or something... This might be useful in TW. If you sage BIDS before hand you might also crit with your emberstorm? Or if you sutra,undine strike,mountain's sieze you might be able to use this in open world PvP.

    Finally, you can instantly trigger the thing. Here, emberstorm is one of your highest DPS skills and you take only 0.05 seconds damage (maybe 100 health?). It's like an AoE skill in a sutra, except without the sutra. This can be useful for finishing off a melee range attacker that has a tiny sliver of health left. This can also be useful with demon emberstorm. This seems quite useful, to me, though deciding how to trigger it can be interesting, because of that accidental trigger issue.
  • Blood_Panda - Raging Tide
    Blood_Panda - Raging Tide Posts: 161 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    is emberstorm affected by Fire Mastery? might be more then 4 dmg per hp if it is..
    I think i rather be hybrid and use HA and a mid level wand.. instead of using HA and everything in Vit.

    Wizard add only 10 hp per vit.. its really too low..
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  • /Groovy/ - Harshlands
    /Groovy/ - Harshlands Posts: 688 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Ok, since a lot of wizards tend to say it's useless skill... here's a list of uses I found for Emberstorm lvl 1:

    - very useful in FC, deals minor damage but is very fast and in situation when there's a lot of mobs around it will deal nice damage overall (more than spamming Gush/Pyro on only one mob, what I've seen many wizzies do). Is very useful on Heads part too.
    - in world PvP, use it on mobs around you to knock stealthed assassins out from invisiblity
    - in TW I had a situation where almost dead opponent tried to run away. Instant-charged Ember finished him off, and dealt some damage to others around. Was quite fun to do as well :P


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  • Shevanel - Sanctuary
    Shevanel - Sanctuary Posts: 436 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Two things
    I think people are misunderstanding Sage Emberstorm.
    It'll still deal the equivalent of 60% of your hp, whilst only taking 45%. No charm tick (can still be a bad thiing)

    I've used it a lot to get sins out of stealth. Target someone, use Elemental Shell (usually barbs don't mind you spamming it on them) Instant cast Emberstorm and willl knock sins out.

    I've actually done a 1.5k non crit on a barb with instant casting it at lvl7. Can be useful regardless of Pre Demon or with sage's damage.

    It's just a fun skill to mess around with.
    Remember: good wizard won't limit himself. We are gimped alright as it is.
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  • Mumintroll - Heavens Tear
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,393 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Emberstorm is perfect spell. But it depend on situation. Example in BH in 89, hell or sage, when cleric set up BB. I started on group of mob ultimate(when have chi), when they was running to me, I started charging emberstorm, after emberstorm I used normal dragon breath.(everything under cleric BB). And sage emberstorm is also good. No charm tick with same damage.
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  • Shadowvzs - Lost City
    Shadowvzs - Lost City Posts: 877 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Shevanel - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Two things
    I think people are misunderstanding Sage Emberstorm.
    It'll still deal the equivalent of 60% of your hp, whilst only taking 45%. No charm tick (can still be a bad thiing)

    I've used it a lot to get sins out of stealth. Target someone, use Elemental Shell (usually barbs don't mind you spamming it on them) Instant cast Emberstorm and willl knock sins out.

    I've actually done a 1.5k non crit on a barb with instant casting it at lvl7. Can be useful regardless of Pre Demon or with sage's damage.

    It's just a fun skill to mess around with.


    So true. Every skill in a wizzies arsenal has it's place. I'd even go as far as to say the lvl 100 skills can and do have their places. Just not enough wizzies have it to know it's potential.

    Stealing mana from a catabarb so they can't Invoke or whatever. That barb is gonna go down fast with their pitiful mana pool.

    only problem armageddon + Invoke the Spirit dont need mana just 2spark, nothing else...

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