Veno - Tanking astralwalker
AnnaLaura - Heavens Tear
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Hey everyone ^^,
I tried tanking Astral walker today in TT 2-2.
I was pretty worried but keeping the herc alive from his hits, but it was really easy.
But as soon as his "minions" started spawning I got a little 'ffd.
I survived the first two waves. I only killed one of them though.
But on the third wave 3 more minions spawned and I wasn't sure what to do.
Kill them or let Hercy tank them all and wait till astral dies.
Well.. I tried killing them since I heard that's the best thing to do but,
As soon as you try to kill a minion with your herc you start stealing aggro from astral because the herc doesn't reflect astral's hits.
And, some of the minions have a ranged magical attack which doesn't reflect hits either on the herc.
How do you veno's do it?
Is there maybe an easier way around, like pulling astral in a certain position that you don't have to worry about the minions at all? Or just one maybe two?
Sorry if this didn't make any sense at all, I didn't sleep all night. :P
Any advice is appreciated, thanks!
Anna.
I tried tanking Astral walker today in TT 2-2.
I was pretty worried but keeping the herc alive from his hits, but it was really easy.
But as soon as his "minions" started spawning I got a little 'ffd.
I survived the first two waves. I only killed one of them though.
But on the third wave 3 more minions spawned and I wasn't sure what to do.
Kill them or let Hercy tank them all and wait till astral dies.
Well.. I tried killing them since I heard that's the best thing to do but,
As soon as you try to kill a minion with your herc you start stealing aggro from astral because the herc doesn't reflect astral's hits.
And, some of the minions have a ranged magical attack which doesn't reflect hits either on the herc.
How do you veno's do it?
Is there maybe an easier way around, like pulling astral in a certain position that you don't have to worry about the minions at all? Or just one maybe two?
Sorry if this didn't make any sense at all, I didn't sleep all night. :P
Any advice is appreciated, thanks!
Anna.
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Well, you can't pull astral, once you attack him, he stop moving.
So, try to wait until he is at a good spot so you pull 1 or 2, 3 max. Then kill them with your herc once they spawn. Good thing about this is that pets ignore defense bonus from level. I think that boss is hard for solo, good luck anyway b:victory
Edit: also to not lose aggro, 1 hit boss, 5 hits add, until the add dies.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Because being random isn't enough.b:thanks
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well i always do it with my hubby,so hes tanking the mobs we pull while cleric bb b:surrender
but this is good position,since we only pull 1 or 2 mobs.
u just need to wait for boss to move near that platform before u port over and put herc on
stand by on this position,like on screenshot before u climb up.
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Soloing it would be really hard. My Strategy involves 1 other character that can heal (Cleric or Wizzy).
-Have wizzy/cleric teleport over before you and run up the ramp/chain to the right.
-Teleport over, go right. Summon herc in front of the little ramp. Buff with magic and physical defense but don't bramble. run up the little ramp and chain as high as your range can heal.
-Have wizzy/cleric stand as far up the chain in heal range of you and keep you targeted.
When he spawns minions they will aggro to Herc (unbrambled). Your healing will aggro them to you. Wizzy/Cleric healing you will aggro them to wizzy/Cleric. Since wizzy/cleric is out of range they go yellow and run around like chickens without heads. (<3 love my wizzy husband)
If done properly the first 2 sets won't aggro to your herc. (the spawn of 1 and 2) they'll stay at their points of the graphical star. Once the 3rd set spawn though everyone aggros and it's incredibly fun to watch xD
Warning: Astral has random aggro. I have had another veno DDing with their pet and Astral suddenly killed me, for no apparent reason. This has only happened when I've had a second DD. So if you're out a barb and wanna herc it I suggest only Herc DD.... which takes foreeeeeeeeeeeeeevver[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Warning: Astral has random aggro. I have had another veno DDing with their pet and Astral suddenly killed me, for no apparent reason. This has only happened when I've had a second DD. So if you're out a barb and wanna herc it I suggest only Herc DD.... which takes foreeeeeeeeeeeeeevver
astral dont have any kind of random aggro
he just reset aggro when he spaw third minions wave
like shooting aur in 1-3 when he spaw 007
reset aggro also called clear hate is different from aggro random
you can look the difference in 2-3 with beli0 -
SORRY for WALL O TEXT
in advance
with niki's post is the correct spot however you do want the boss to be a exactly in front of that pilar before you teleport ove&send in the hurc once he is over to the boss you are healing him then buff hurc with all 3 buffs yes reflect to (note it no longer works on asteral however it does on the add's if you do tihs right) i catch the boss with hurc b4 i even buff hurc senidng him as soon as i summon spamminghealingthe whole time then buffingwhen he gets there then i move up to about where hurc is then continue healing a bit then move to the far side of the boss next to that pillar as seen in the pic and heal some more then hope up onto pillar heal a few times and run up to the top stop heal some then bring hurc to u for a split second and send him back in to attcking once he is about halfway through the boss because he tends to stop running just at the foot of the platform and turn and attack again. then once the first add on your right dspawns i believe its the fire one i send hurc right after it and stop hitting the boss i leave hurc hitting it and heal only once add is at 75% hp i send the hurc to the boss for 10 hits and then back to the add again till50% and repeat at 25% then send hurc back to the addinstead of letting it just blow up and ignoring it (it is extremely hard to kill) so that isnt why i send hurc to it instead it hits less hard phy dmg then its mag dmg hit so with asteral hitting and add hitting dmg is less and you wont risk the hurc being anywhere low on hp when the add goes (boom) then i am healing still till hurc is full again and walkto the bottom of the pillar (not getting off iot) put hurc on follow and then halt him at the base and put on attack again repeat withsecond add on the right after the2 adds are gone bring to pillar bottom again and just DD also tip try to stay away from the right side of that pillar and do not use massive genie aoe skills because it may aggro a add if the boss is not close enough hope that helps[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Even beauty can kill.
also wish they would fix the dam prob with my "join date" its way off>_>0 -
wouldnt be the safest method to use maxrange heals on herc - by standing on the chais---
thus minions resetting on heal aaggro , cause they cant reach the veno?
or am i wrong wth this-- and petheal aint part of normal aggro system?0 -
Im not sure how venos solo him (for obvious reason lol) but i think at least part of squad strategy can be adapted
1) wait till astral moves close to back platform, then teleport, run to that platform, summon herc and grab boss with herc
2) move as far up the chain as you can to still be in heal range
that cuts the number of minions you have to deal with to 2, so big improvement here
rest may or may not be applicable:
3) i stay on a platform (not on a chain) because i want melees to be in bb range. still i have seen minion try to aggro on me and reset when he couldnt reach me
4) on back platform minions you get are toxin and fire, they hit very weak on arcanes, on my last run in 2-3 it was about 300 per hit so i told squad to just ignore them and focus on boss, in bb i tanked them without any problem (that is until someone aggroed 2 more ) you should be able to tank minions on pots i think, without bb they would hit for around 600-700 and not very fast so not a problem here
5) im not sure on that random aggro issue, dont think i ever saw astral hit anyone but tank, im certain he never aggroed on squishies crowded on platform, even though everyone but me was going all out with damage...
hope this helps a little b:pleased[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Szol - Harshlands wrote: »wouldnt be the safest method to use maxrange heals on herc - by standing on the chais---
thus minions resetting on heal aaggro , cause they cant reach the veno?
or am i wrong wth this-- and petheal aint part of normal aggro system?
u're not wrong.
putting herc and astral in the place showed by /NiKi, and then going up (follow archer xD) and healing max range, herc will get only mag adds, that will try to reach u, cuz pet healing herc without reflect u'll get aggro.
But range of mag adds is less than pet heal range.
So, astralwalker is soloable, cause adds will reset and run around going mad cuz they cant hit u.
Running with a squad, this means that squad can kill faster astral.0 -
i can solo it from any position tho.. the best one is far right side imo
click for image
i dont need any cleric/wiz help at all, just wait for the right moment when astral is near one of those chains then teleport, summon pet, buff only first 2 skill and never ever use bramble pet self buff.
send pet to atk then slightly go near boss and position herc as much as possible near border platform. after that use hold on pet and go on chain and heal, i just do 1 step 1 heal till im at max range. after that its just time, minions wil respawn, some will be avoided others will reset. even with full set on minions on pet i can still heal and do the job till the end.
edit:i never kill minions but if you start killing them your pet might die not because of more damage but some minions explodes before death0 -
b:bye hi
All the options ppl above have given are good ways to solo astral.
Actually its not that hard and he can be done from just about any position he is in. But instead of giving you a lengthy in-depth written explanation :surrender, i see you are on HT so how bout you pm or mail me and we may be able to find a time to go together and can show you how it is done.. would be fun
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long as hes close to a pillar you can run max range on a chain... your fine until the 2nd wave of mobs comes but after the third comes you might wanna spam heals, dont put reflect on your herc so that the mobs keep resetting, your herc will take less damage that way and its alot safer ASTRAL AGRO RESETS AT 3.6m 2.4m AND 1.2m just bramble hood around those times to be safe or stop the healing for a few seconds if your herc is high lvl i do this all the time and i almost never fail b:laugh
if your going to kill the adds give your herc a few seconds to agro astral or you will out agro him with your heals and get a nice slap across the face0 -
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