How to beat: Fist/Claw BM's

yakuzi
yakuzi Posts: 0 Arc User
edited July 2010 in Assassin
How on earth do we beat fist/claw BMs?
They **** us with a few hits, and stunning them with skills doesn't do enough damage to kill them.
Rib Strike also doesn't help, I have really no idea how to do it x_X

b:sad
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  • NightReaper - Lost City
    NightReaper - Lost City Posts: 196 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    if u rnt lvl89 yet, try: stealth > 2x spark > wolfemblem > mazesteps > rentless courage, ortangling mire or both > normal atks > when ur maze steps efect is ending, use rising dragon strike > headhunt > normal atks... if he/she still alive, use shadow scape and run...

    if u have demon spark try: stealth > deep sting > 3x spark > inner harmony > maze steps > tangling mire > normal atks...
    *stealth*...
    HEY APPLE...
    KNIFE!!
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Sneakret - Heavens Tear
    Sneakret - Heavens Tear Posts: 618 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    hmmm, honestly I've found the easiest way for me to put down a fist bm is to simply keep them sealed,stunned,and slept.

    In the typical situation this is a case of fire vs fire, you're attacking someone that hits fast like you do but moreso, who also has heavy armor which you most likely do not. W/o heavy refining and substantial differences in gear superiority bm's fire is BIG and your fire is small.
    I can see what you see not,
    Vision milky, then eyes rot.
    When you turn, they will be gone,
    Whispering their hidden song.
    Then you see what cannot be,
    Shadows move where light should be.
    Out of darkness, out of mind,
    Cast down into the Halls of the Blind.
  • WillowVIII - Dreamweaver
    WillowVIII - Dreamweaver Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Get to level 100, find a credit card, ???????, win.
  • Daggster - Lost City
    Daggster - Lost City Posts: 123 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    NightReaper - Lost City wrote: »
    if u rnt lvl89 yet, try: stealth > 2x spark > wolfemblem > mazesteps > rentless courage, ortangling mire or both > normal atks > when ur maze steps efect is ending, use rising dragon strike > headhunt > normal atks... if he/she still alive, use shadow scape and run...

    if u have demon spark try: stealth > deep sting > 3x spark > inner harmony > maze steps > tangling mire > normal atks...

    i guess this wont work on any non fail bm ... he will simply run form u untill maze and spark is over! so u will have to add rising dragon strike and headhunt somewhere and make sure u keep him stunned! ... if its one of those LOL 5k hp bm LOL u almost cant loose if u simply use headhunt mire and normal hits
  • Wolfyyy - Raging Tide
    Wolfyyy - Raging Tide Posts: 51 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    You only use Headhunt when the BM isnt using his anti-stun skill.

    Make use of Throat-Cut and Deep Sting instead. You just need one of these skills to succeed and your lock combo will be able to set in.

    Skills from genie you can consider will be AD or Bramble Rage.

    Better still, if your sin has interval gears, you can actually go head on with him. Perhaps you can activate demon spark after a successful Deep Sting, follow up with tackling slash, and fight with him using the normal swings.
  • Daggster - Lost City
    Daggster - Lost City Posts: 123 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    if they have anti stun active deepsting wont work either ... so u would have to go for throatcut(which is one of the best skills a sin has imo)
  • _Omnislash - Heavens Tear
    _Omnislash - Heavens Tear Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    I drop 100+ BMs like this and it works great Stealth>2xSpark>Inner Harmony>Wolfemblem>Mazesteps>Powerdash>Bramble rage>normal attacks. Becuz powerdash puts crit rate up and your genies crit rate is same as yours you get high chance to crit with bramblerage ive critted 8-9k on BM/Barb with it my genie is full dex though :)
  • _Leif - Lost City
    _Leif - Lost City Posts: 369 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    ^works better for aoeing than 1 on 1 tbh.

    It depends entirely on what type of genie they have/if they're surrounded by people who also want to kill you.

    In the scenario where you've got a bunch of enemies grouped up, go with omni's strategy.

    If it's 1 on 1 and they have a genie with occult ice: buff up > maze steps > wolf emblem > tackling slash > deep sting > triple spark > IH > headhunt + tangling mire > normal attacks > occult ice (if needed) > normal attacks

    If it's 1 on 1 and they have the genie move absolute domain either: fly above them, triple spark > IH > restealth > run to them > headhunt + tangling mire > normal attacks > throatcut when you see they activate absolute domain and before stun wears off > normal attacks (or shadow tele if they start to run) > occult ice > normal attacks

    If you're confident that you can kill them without triple sparking: buff up > double spark > IH > headhunt + mire > normal attacks (suggest you use relentless courage AFTER you see immunity wear off > throatcut right before stun ends > shadow tele > normal attacks + occult ice

    If they will of bodi before you stun either land a throatcut or restealth if you cannot kill them.

    If they have both moves on their genie plan your assault as if they are going to absolute domain. DO NOT triple spark + headhunt 1v1 on a BM that has absolute domain on their genie and has full energy. You will get ***** if they have remotely any idea how to play their class.
  • StretchIt - Harshlands
    StretchIt - Harshlands Posts: 327 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    B R A M B L E R A G E b:cute

    especially if they have physical marrow up xD
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • yakuzi
    yakuzi Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Omni! You stealed my idea lol. But you don't know who I am here b:chuckle

    You know me ingame. b:bye
  • Shadowvzs - Lost City
    Shadowvzs - Lost City Posts: 877 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    _Omnislash - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I drop 100+ BMs like this and it works great Stealth>2xSpark>Inner Harmony>Wolfemblem>Mazesteps>Powerdash>Bramble rage>normal attacks. Becuz powerdash puts crit rate up and your genies crit rate is same as yours you get high chance to crit with bramblerage ive critted 8-9k on BM/Barb with it my genie is full dex though :)

    its nice, a question, why u use 2nd spark with power dash instead maze+wolf emblem+subsea strike+power dash? cause its bigger surprise attack?
  • Okeano - Harshlands
    Okeano - Harshlands Posts: 4,943 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Subsea is **** and doesn't last as long as spark.
    _Omnislash - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I drop 100+ BMs like this and it works great Stealth>2xSpark>Inner Harmony>Wolfemblem>Mazesteps>Powerdash>Bramble rage>normal attacks. Becuz powerdash puts crit rate up and your genies crit rate is same as yours you get high chance to crit with bramblerage ive critted 8-9k on BM/Barb with it my genie is full dex though :)
    I doubt a BM with a brain's going to sit there and let you hit them when you just came out of stealth sparked. Given that they might roar first out of instinct, most will move a bit if not run when they see that you have anti stun on and breaks your dps.

    Mine's similar to _Leif's first one, without the sleep. Since they can't move, can't stun and you are sparking so they can't do dmg or seal you, sleep or not doesn't make too much of a difference. For better geared BM I pop a vac powder and replace Headhunt with Dash in the combo and drop Occult Ice as Tackling ends.
  • Lingzi - Lost City
    Lingzi - Lost City Posts: 877 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    wanna know how to kill HAs? ask Lingzi
  • Okeano - Harshlands
    Okeano - Harshlands Posts: 4,943 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Lingzi - Lost City wrote: »
    wanna know how to kill HAs? ask Lingzi

    Troll on the forum and ask for return of demon spark in stealth while asking for removal of all sparking in stealth?
  • DrHook - Lost City
    DrHook - Lost City Posts: 133 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Force stealth and ** with our headz.
    Ive fought so many sins that keep trying to dd me when there obviously losing, why not just leave?
    You can always come back a sec later and try again, or is there there's something I just dont get?
  • StretchIt - Harshlands
    StretchIt - Harshlands Posts: 327 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Okeano - Harshlands wrote: »
    Troll on the forum and ask for return of demon spark in stealth while asking for removal of all sparking in stealth?

    and where the hell have you been? your wife is lonely... jerk :O
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Okeano - Harshlands
    Okeano - Harshlands Posts: 4,943 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    StretchIt - Harshlands wrote: »
    and where the hell have you been? your wife is lonely... jerk :O

    Vacation b:surrender but back now.

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