37 Sin losing in fights

mickst3r
mickst3r Posts: 14 Arc User
edited July 2010 in Assassin
Hey guys,

I'm fairly new to this game but have managed to get my Sin to level 37.

I dueled a level 35 BM before and he pwned me pretty bad. Now looking at his gears, his gears where not all that great compared to mine, I had rank I gear while he had ****ty white gear.

Before the fight I had Blood Paint on, I started off at a distance with knife throw then went in with punctured wound --> Wolf Emblem --> Tackling Slash --> Deepsting -->SlipStream then continue with tackling slash -->deepsting -->Slipstream

Now I am 2 levels higher than he was with better gear as well but still lost...

Are assassins meant to be that weak ???
Are they meant to lose to BM's ???

What did i do wrong?
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  • Rated_PG - Raging Tide
    Rated_PG - Raging Tide Posts: 53 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    just a duel gone wrong, try stealthing, spark+wolf emblem+bp etc. then immob. him with t slash, then bleed ,then slipstream and/or deep sting to let t slash cool down, re spark etc if he isnt dead, use shadow escape if needed, re-spark and destroy him.
  • _Leif - Lost City
    _Leif - Lost City Posts: 369 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    You won't kill BMs, at least not for a while. Only thing you can do is get the genie move tangling mire on a very high str genie to reduce their pdef by up to 50% or so. They have about the same defense as an LA for that 10 second period, which means you have a chance to kill them :3
  • Sirrobert - Dreamweaver
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,395 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    BM is heavy armor with high hp.
    You use phys attacks and have light armor with low hp

    Heavy armor has high defence against phys attacks, so you can't hurt him all that bad. On the other side he can hurt you, as you have almost no defences

    If you really want to hurt, spark eruption. You have all that chi from tackling slash, use itb:chuckle
    9 out of 10 voices in my head say I'm not crazy... the 10th is singing the music of tetris
  • Shadowvzs - Lost City
    Shadowvzs - Lost City Posts: 877 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    _Leif - Lost City wrote: »
    You won't kill BMs, at least not for a while. Only thing you can do is get the genie move tangling mire on a very high str genie to reduce their pdef by up to 50% or so. They have about the same defense as an LA for that 10 second period, which means you have a chance to kill them :3

    part of the true that reduce only the base eq pdef its mean:

    100% eq pdef + 70% buff +120%sutra when u use 50% debuff then not 50% left, 240 left instead 290% :P

    facts at lv60 is easier. i beated too in duel at 6x with fist bm (antistun skill+spark burst) a 6x vit axe bm cause the speed with interval wrist and RC indifferent he used sutra cause the speed helped alot (later u can get more accurancy with rings and more interval).

    actually with tanglire mire/mud on heavy bm still he got more pdef but u can hurt.

    this skill not bad too in lower lv (if genie is lv76 then u can max it), mainly vs pdef sutra bm after mazze step+subsea strike. (i think really u are more effective after 59)

    Thunderstorm Level 10
    Genie lvl 76
    SP 59.000 (186.760)
    Fire 7

    Range 25 meters
    Energy 102
    Stamina 1137
    Instant
    Cooldown 15 seconds
    Requisite Class All

    Calls forth a thunderstorm to attack the target.
    Deals 728.0 Metal damage.
    Ground contact and distance of the target will determine the skill power.

    Dexterity: Every Genie Dexterity point increases the damage by 2%.

    Causes triple damage to targets on the ground.
    Causes double damage to very close targets.
  • WillowVIII - Dreamweaver
    WillowVIII - Dreamweaver Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Just wait til you're like level 60 when you have all your stuns. You're pretty much going to get your **** beat by all barbs and BMs until then.
  • Lucifer_II - Dreamweaver
    Lucifer_II - Dreamweaver Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Also, you might not know how to play your class all that well. I beat Bm's a few lvls higher then me. Probably cause these new BMs dont know what they are doing, im not sure. This is what i do: Stealth~Tackling Slash~Puncture Wound~Deep Sting and let them bleed out~Rib Strike to lower attack rate, then spark and win =P
  • saul25
    saul25 Posts: 99 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    lol assasins cant beat bm unless they have godlike equipment then yes but sins are meant to kill squishy shy people with my bm i usually beat sins 10 levels higher than me b:victory RAge on b:angry
  • Lorsis - Lost City
    Lorsis - Lost City Posts: 74 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    I'll say it this way.

    1. Hit level 100.
    2. **** full buffed barbs in less than 10 seconds
    3. ????????????
    4. PROFIT!
  • lightdragon999
    lightdragon999 Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    they facted that you buffed during a fight was part of your problem....you have 5secs to buff up....use it wolf emblem is 30secs so you lose 1-5 secs of it that aint much
  • NightReaper - Lost City
    NightReaper - Lost City Posts: 196 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    you wont be able to kill BMs at lvl59- (a non-noob BM)... after lvl59, u will have 2x spark + 2 stuns + 2 skills to get chi, u will be able to kill BMs, but u will have dificult... on lvl100 u will kill them in 5-10 seconds very easyb:laugh



    but, if u realy want to duel vs BMs at ur lvl instead of lvl up/farm/grind, i sugest u to use:

    full chi > stealth > focused mind > wolf emblem > spark > tackling slash > rib strike > slipstream strike > normal atks > puncture wound > slipstream strike > normal atks... > pray for some miss >.<
    *stealth*...
    HEY APPLE...
    KNIFE!!
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • graever
    graever Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Yeah you really should use wolf emblem before fights, not during. So never buff during the fight. Your going to lose a few before you get the hang of pvp. Just keep fighting, keep levelling, and sooner or later you will start doing well. Sins aren't weak, even at low lvls, they just take a little more skill than some classes. To beat HA's you need to utilise your moves. You don't even need to have stuns to own bm's when your a low lvl tbh. All you need is stealth or deep sting, throatcut, tackling slash, spark or throw in a slip stream or rib strike, maybe puntcure wound, effective at lower lvls. Once you've got some sleeps, seals, immobilises and stuns you will start having a lot more fun with pvp. b:victory

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