GMs should nerf sins again
Lingzi - Lost City
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GMs had nerfed us sins by taking away our demon/sage spark in stealth n i have been pking alot since.
but we r still too over powered becos we can still double and single spark dring stealth. i think GMs should make us being kicked out of sealth when we double/single sparked. that will make all the clas more balanced.
wat do u guys think?
i think double n single spark should kik us out of stealth.
and also GMs need to take away our stealth skills. so with that every class are balanced. yea !!! lets do this !!! b:victory
but we r still too over powered becos we can still double and single spark dring stealth. i think GMs should make us being kicked out of sealth when we double/single sparked. that will make all the clas more balanced.
wat do u guys think?
i think double n single spark should kik us out of stealth.
and also GMs need to take away our stealth skills. so with that every class are balanced. yea !!! lets do this !!! b:victory
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You know, you are right. We are still way too OP. In addition to what you said, they should also make it so our daggers do 1 APS as a standard. Also, no stuns and remove Rib Strike.
Could you possibly cry much more Lingzi? At first, I was sympathetic that you lost your main way to kill charmed CS Barbs, I honestly was. Now though, I'm actually going to hope they nerf us more just so you finally RQ. They balanced the game with having Demon spark cancel stealth, so stop complaining, please. You are just giving every Assassin player out there a bad name.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Didn't get the rest of it, but apparently I am the "destroyer of sin haters" as well.0 -
LOL, u cryed a lot when they remove the stealthed 3x spark, and now u r saing to remove more things??b:bye sry, but i hope they dont listen to ub:shocked
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assassins should pk with creativity. having spark in stealth, no matter it is double single demon or sage, will make us oevr powered. u all were right n i have learnt my lesson. we should pk with sklls and combos n our creativity.
those who pk n rely on stealth r fail.
so yea we should send more tickets to GMs, telling em to remove being able to double spark in stealth.
even with that, we r still over powered, lets make GMs remove stealth skills and head hunt. we need all classes in pwi to be balanced. we really need to nerf sin a bit more.
b:victory im sure most of u will agree with me, so yea, lets do this !!!0 -
Your threads make me lol, and I rarely do (not really), but anyways.
Stop making useless topics that you very well know, no good will come off.
As to sending tickets and what not, haven't you by now realized the changes are made by CN and copied here, not the other way around?
Well you're better off posting on CN forums.. assuming you know chinese.
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ACLucius - Archosaur wrote: »You know, you are right. We are still way too OP. In addition to what you said, they should also make it so our daggers do 1 APS as a standard. Also, no stuns and remove Rib Strike.
Pardon my ignorance, but you are being sarcastic, right?Demon_Troll: "takes on the appearance of an innocent archer but turns into a mindless idiot once you hear him speak"
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Lingzi - Lost City wrote: »1.GMs had nerfed us sins by taking away our demon/sage spark in stealth n i have been pking alot since.
2.but we r still too over powered becos we can still double and single spark dring stealth. i think GMs should make us being kicked out of sealth when we double/single sparked. that will make all the clas more balanced.
wat do u guys think?
i think double n single spark should kik us out of stealth.
3.and also GMs need to take away our stealth skills. so with that every class are balanced. yea !!! lets do this !!! b:victory
Ok I've only played my Sin to level 20, so I'm not gonna pretend to be a know it all or anything, but from my point of view this doesn't make much sense.
1: That was probably their way of trying to balance some.
2: Only having only played to lv 20 on my Sin, and not being one to PvP much, I really don't have much to form an opinion on this one.
3: This is foolish. For 3 reasons in my opinion: 1: This is just being taken from a PvP standpoint, stealth is good for other things besides PvP, like escaping a monster or trying to avoid attracting aggro when traveling through a highly monster populated area. 2: By your logic then no class should have a special skill, so then Clerics shouldn't heal, Veno's shouldn't have pets, and Veno's/Barb's shouldn't transform ect.? That's part of what makes each class unique, every class has it's own special ability(s). 3: Isn't part of being a Sin being able to be...well an Assassin, meaning their suppose to be good fighters, And be stealthy? As for fighting with skill, like I said before, I don't go into pk mode, but I'm assuming that once you attack, your opponent is aware of you presence and would attack back, once that happens would it not require skill to continue to fight and stay alive?[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
*nom noms the troll bait.*
GMs hasn't really nerfed sins at all...
x.x'
They just made stealth do what it should do when skills be cast. (but only for one skill....triple spark. They hasn't bothered to make all skills drop sins out of stealth.)
b:chuckle
The triple spark breaking stealth patch was an overall buff because it removed expel as a skill that could be used against sins.
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Taking away our stealth? No way!
How else am I going to be a perv and get away with it?0 -
SphereLord - Raging Tide wrote: »Taking away our stealth? No way!
How else am I going to be a perv and get away with it?
b:shocked
No female be safe!
.....
wait.....
SphereLord...you do know those be only pixels and possibly G.I.R.Ls right?
b:shocked
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MagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »b:shocked
No female be safe!
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wait.....
SphereLord...you do know those be only pixels and possibly G.I.R.Ls right?
b:shocked
b:spit
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SphereLord - Raging Tide wrote: »It's the thought that counts. b:chuckle
Unclean~~~
Unclean!!!!
Had to wipe out quite a large amount of information out of me mind because of yesterday from that one thread...
x.x'darthpanda16: Firefox crashed on me. Aryannamage: I don't think I am a GM that would be new.
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Kantorek: Yeah.. you should try it. It's awesome.
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Lingzi - Lost City wrote: »GMs had nerfed us sins by taking away our demon/sage spark in stealth n i have been pking alot since.
but we r still too over powered becos we can still double and single spark dring stealth. i think GMs should make us being kicked out of sealth when we double/single sparked. that will make all the clas more balanced.
wat do u guys think?
i think double n single spark should kik us out of stealth.
and also GMs need to take away our stealth skills. so with that every class are balanced. yea !!! lets do this !!! b:victoryassassins should pk with creativity. having spark in stealth, no matter it is double single demon or sage, will make us oevr powered. u all were right n i have learnt my lesson. we should pk with sklls and combos n our creativity.
those who pk n rely on stealth r fail.
so yea we should send more tickets to GMs, telling em to remove being able to double spark in stealth.
even with that, we r still over powered, lets make GMs remove stealth skills and head hunt. we need all classes in pwi to be balanced. we really need to nerf sin a bit more.
im sure most of u will agree with me, so yea, lets do this !!!
I disagree with you completely. One: because we are a assassins, we assassinate people and things without being seen and we do it quickly that's what we are known for (and I mean even from a rl standpoint ) so you might as well have them change our name as well. Two: Thats all well and fine for pvp but what about pve? Have you even stopped to consider the repercussions this would have for that?
Three: I'm all for being creative with skills, I'm lvl 51 and I have yet to use headhunt for anything(actually I don't even think I have it yet, even if I did I don't think I'd use it). But, really if you need skills taken away or nerfed to be creative with your skills than you and others like you fail. Simply because you should have the skill and sense to know how to use all your skills creatively for pvp and pve without having to be forced to by having them nerfed or taken away. In other words you should know how to use all your skills equally well and not just rely on what's easiest "just because it's there". All skills should be able to be there and you not abuse them or rely on them to heavily. So, in short
its not the skills that are overpowered, its not that there's a problem with the skills we have its a problem you have.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Sheikah - Raging Tide wrote: »I disagree with you completely. One: because we are a assassins, we assassinate people and things without being seen and we do it quickly that's what we are known for (and I mean even from a rl standpoint ) so you might as well have them change our name as well. Two: Thats all well and fine for pvp but what about pve? Have you even stopped to consider the repercussions this would have for that?
um.....it be best not to take a "rl standpoint" on anything in a fantasy game...
or else:
Archers won't has close damage reduction.
Barbs & venos will lose their armor and weapon when they true form.
Blademasters wouldn't be able to move very efficiently while carrying 2 swords, an axe, & brass knuckles.
Clerics will have to find the body pieces of their comrades if their comrades get their limbs **** off or something
Wizards will have to read for hours before being able to use skills.
And psychics....well they probably will get cooked at the stake for heresy or something since they can't really do any psychic thing.
b:chuckledarthpanda16: Firefox crashed on me. Aryannamage: I don't think I am a GM that would be new.
Hawk:Do this. closing thread
frankieraye: I'll see if we can replace the woman with a stick figure and the tiger fangs with marshmallows.//Issues like these need to get escalated quickly to minimize the damage.
Kantorek: Yeah.. you should try it. It's awesome.
Sihndra: Nope- not currently possible under any circumstances. Sorry.
LokisDottir: I mean...not haunting the forums, nope nope..
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MagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »um.....it be best not to take a "rl standpoint" on anything in a fantasy game...
or else:
Archers won't has close damage reduction.
Barbs & venos will lose their armor and weapon when they true form.
Blademasters wouldn't be able to move very efficiently while carrying 2 swords, an axe, & brass knuckles.
Clerics will have to find the body pieces of their comrades if their comrades get their limbs **** off or something
Wizards will have to read for hours before being able to use skills.
And psychics....well they probably will get cooked at the stake for heresy or something since they can't really do any psychic thing.
b:chuckle
hehehe that made me lol, but NO!!!! sins and psys will get cooked at the stake because we are fish! Q.Q NUUUUU Q.Q.Q.Q.Q.Q >.>....(fishticks anyone?)0 -
um.....it be best not to take a "rl standpoint" on anything in a fantasy game...
or else:
Archers won't has close damage reduction.
Barbs & venos will lose their armor and weapon when they true form.
Blademasters wouldn't be able to move very efficiently while carrying 2 swords, an axe, & brass knuckles.
Clerics will have to find the body pieces of their comrades if their comrades get their limbs **** off or something
Wizards will have to read for hours before being able to use skills.
And psychics....well they probably will get cooked at the stake for heresy or something since they can't really do any psychic thing.
I didn't mean it that literal, what I meant was that if you were to research assassins rl ones and what they do (not that I've done that) you would see that they kill from the shadows,etc. Meaning I was talking from a job basis sort of view not impart a completely realistic picture on what is supposed to be fantasy. Assassins were I'm sure somewhat patterned after the real thing and to try and edit that out and thereby what makes us what we are is silly and defeats the person of our class. Thats what I'm saying, if I had meant it that literal than assassins and archers (or any class even) shouldn't have critical rates or at least not in the sense they do. So, if you had been paying attention to the context of my statement you would have understood what I meant.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
umm im just curious, but lingzi can you post a link with your gear and stats? im kinda curious as to whether its your gear or the actual loss of triple spark in stealth.0
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ACLucius - Archosaur wrote: »You know, you are right. We are still way too OP. In addition to what you said, they should also make it so our daggers do 1 APS as a standard. Also, no stuns and remove Rib Strike.
Could you possibly cry much more Lingzi? At first, I was sympathetic that you lost your main way to kill charmed CS Barbs, I honestly was. Now though, I'm actually going to hope they nerf us more just so you finally RQ. They balanced the game with having Demon spark cancel stealth, so stop complaining, please. You are just giving every Assassin player out there a bad name.
How many squishies have a chance against u when you suprise them WITHOUT a spark? If you can kill just about all of them before they even are able to move... nonetheless attack back or use a skill... then they did not balance the game. I've seen many fights where an assassin gets attacked first... And the person does 1 dmg... and assassin teleport stuns back to the person and kills them again without them being able to do anything... If you can do this... the game is not balanced. People will just have to try and work around sins because i believe GMs are afraid that if they make sins fair... by taking away the defense buff's crazy defense... or decreasing one of the teleports... or even the long ranged skill.. people will QQ and rage all over the place... No offense to you GMs... just my personal opinion.0 -
Lingzi, I agree with you on the point of killing with creativity. But alas, we were just not built that way; we're rogues; we're designed awkwardly.Demon_Troll: "takes on the appearance of an innocent archer but turns into a mindless idiot once you hear him speak"
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Lingzi - Lost City wrote: »GMs had nerfed us sins by taking away our demon/sage spark in stealth n i have been pking alot since.
but we r still too over powered becos we can still double and single spark dring stealth. i think GMs should make us being kicked out of sealth when we double/single sparked. that will make all the clas more balanced.
wat do u guys think?
i think double n single spark should kik us out of stealth.
and also GMs need to take away our stealth skills. so with that every class are balanced. yea !!! lets do this !!! b:victory
considering i have loved sins this way i believe it should stay
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Typhyse - Sanctuary wrote: »Lingzi, I agree with you on the point of killing with creativity. But alas, we were just not built that way; we're rogues; we're designed awkwardly.
im just quoting cause i love his signature LOL0 -
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BellaKitsune - Raging Tide wrote: »Ok I've only played my Sin to level 20, so I'm not gonna pretend to be a know it all or anything, but from my point of view this doesn't make much sense.
1: That was probably their way of trying to balance some.
2: Only having only played to lv 20 on my Sin, and not being one to PvP much, I really don't have much to form an opinion on this one.
3: This is foolish. For 3 reasons in my opinion: 1: This is just being taken from a PvP standpoint, stealth is good for other things besides PvP, like escaping a monster or trying to avoid attracting aggro when traveling through a highly monster populated area. 2: By your logic then no class should have a special skill, so then Clerics shouldn't heal, Veno's shouldn't have pets, and Veno's/Barb's shouldn't transform ect.? That's part of what makes each class unique, every class has it's own special ability(s). 3: Isn't part of being a Sin being able to be...well an Assassin, meaning their suppose to be good fighters, And be stealthy? As for fighting with skill, like I said before, I don't go into pk mode, but I'm assuming that once you attack, your opponent is aware of you presence and would attack back, once that happens would it not require skill to continue to fight and stay alive?
OMG. Double rainbow! What could this mean?[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Sheikah - Raging Tide wrote: »I didn't mean it that literal, what I meant was that if you were to research assassins rl ones and what they do (not that I've done that) you would see that they kill from the shadows,etc. Meaning I was talking from a job basis sort of view not impart a completely realistic picture on what is supposed to be fantasy. Assassins were I'm sure somewhat patterned after the real thing and to try and edit that out and thereby what makes us what we are is silly and defeats the person of our class. Thats what I'm saying, if I had meant it that literal than assassins and archers (or any class even) shouldn't have critical rates or at least not in the sense they do. So, if you had been paying attention to the context of my statement you would have understood what I meant.
Pift the use of shadows be so archaic.
b:chuckle
Although me suppose humans don't has much choice.darthpanda16: Firefox crashed on me. Aryannamage: I don't think I am a GM that would be new.
Hawk:Do this. closing thread
frankieraye: I'll see if we can replace the woman with a stick figure and the tiger fangs with marshmallows.//Issues like these need to get escalated quickly to minimize the damage.
Kantorek: Yeah.. you should try it. It's awesome.
Sihndra: Nope- not currently possible under any circumstances. Sorry.
LokisDottir: I mean...not haunting the forums, nope nope..
Konariraiden: You don't know what you are up against. You will lose.
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juggalo10k wrote: »im just quoting cause i love his signature LOL
Awh tyb:pleasedDemon_Troll: "takes on the appearance of an innocent archer but turns into a mindless idiot once you hear him speak"
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God I love your LOLcat grammar styleb:dirtyMagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »Pift the use of shadows be so archaic.
b:chuckle
Although me suppose humans don't has much choice.
edit: -steals ban hammer and whacks himself with it for double posting-Demon_Troll: "takes on the appearance of an innocent archer but turns into a mindless idiot once you hear him speak"
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