Speed Clarification

Boogiepanda - Raging Tide
Boogiepanda - Raging Tide Posts: 4,682 Arc User
edited July 2010 in Dungeons & Tactics
Well I'm an Elf Archer and my base speed is 5.2 m/s

If you use Seraphic mist on normal speed it's +2.5 m/s

That means I'm travelling at 7.7m/s?

Also, on land mount, their speeds are like 11 m/s (ancient boa lvl 11), is that THE speed or +11 m/s?

I'm a little confused as land mounts seem ALOT faster than my wings.
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  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    All speeds are what they are with what you are doing...

    Walking speed = 5.2 m/s

    Flying Speed = What stated on your wings

    Mount Speed = What is stated on your mount (and yes land mounts are always faster)


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  • Boogiepanda - Raging Tide
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide Posts: 4,682 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    So my seraphic mist speed is 7.7m/s? Is that correct? And I should travel 11 m/s on a boa boa?
  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Boogiepanda - Raging Tide wrote: »
    So my seraphic mist speed is 7.7m/s? Is that correct? And I should travel 11 m/s on a boa boa?

    -.- No...

    Your wings are the speed on the wings = 2.5

    Your walking on land speed = 5.2

    ^ you do not add them together for in flight

    Your Boa = 11 m/s
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  • Vixennia - Raging Tide
    Vixennia - Raging Tide Posts: 104 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    I almost positive that is incorrect.

    The speed on your flight mount is not 3.00 it is specifically listed as +3.00

    Which would mean you go an additional +3.00. Otherwise noone would use the fliers as they are significantly slower than just running. And I can gaurantee if I flew somewhere next to someone running I'd get there first.

    Your flight mount is +3.00(or whatever it's speed says) to your regular movement speed. There is already a post about this.

    Your land mount however I do not think is added to your running speed. I believe that is what it says. 10.0 or whatever. So it would be run 5.2, fly 8.2, land mount 10.
  • scshop
    scshop Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Flying mount speed is added with your land speed. Land mounts does not get added.
  • Skilledscuer - Heavens Tear
    Skilledscuer - Heavens Tear Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Yea my friend told me how the speed of a flying ride is added on to ur walking speed(excluding the speed buffs)
  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Then I am glitched....rofl....time for me to do my own tests...(after my break :p) b:surrender
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  • _Nei_ - Sanctuary
    _Nei_ - Sanctuary Posts: 334 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    scshop wrote: »
    Flying mount speed is added with your land speed. Land mounts does not get added.
    Skilledscuer - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Yea my friend told me how the speed of a flying ride is added on to ur walking speed(excluding the speed buffs)

    If this is true then why do you fly soo dam slow with the reward wings at normal speed +0.50........ and why do you need to feed your wings to get the fast speed

    You can try this making a race with another one with better wings than yours and another one running /walking at land............

    Like the veno said I can go there more faster walking!!

    Fly speed is for fly mounts, if you are flying you get the fly mount normal speed or fast speed if yopu switch it on.
    When you summon your land mount you get the pet speed.
    And when you are walking/running you are doing it at the chara info speed that depends about your class.

    The max speed from game is 15m/sec that you can get with pills / genie holy path.
    Usually land mout has better and more faster speed than your running one
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  • LloydAsplund - Sanctuary
    LloydAsplund - Sanctuary Posts: 3,899 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Flying speed = 5 + speed of wings.

    In your case, you're flying at 7.5m/s
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  • LenieClarke - Heavens Tear
    LenieClarke - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,275 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    i suspect, myself, that not only is flight speed added on to your ground movement speed, but it's added on after speed buffs and not before. venos can try flying the same course with and without summer spirit enabled, for instance.
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  • Lemuria - Harshlands
    Lemuria - Harshlands Posts: 114 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Most speed enhancements will NOT work with flight, they are ignored completely. The exceptions are genie skills specifically designed to enhance speed and Flight Mastery, which only works with the starter and elven wings.

    And yes, your total flight speed is Base Land Speed + Flight Speed. In the case of a cleric using fully upgraded Sparklebright wings, thats an unhasted speed of 7.3, hasted would be 9.8.

    Mounts are always faster. Arguably its a technical issue because of the farther distance visible when in flight, but more likely its to make mounts a bit more attractive as a means of transport.
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  • Smobo - Heavens Tear
    Smobo - Heavens Tear Posts: 386 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    _Nei_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    and why do you need to feed your wings to get the fast speed

    The reason you feed your wings for faster speed is for air PvP. The slightly faster speed matters when you're chasing someone/being chased.

    And I'm fairly certain, you fly 5.0m/s + the speed of your wings.
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  • JiEunxD - Archosaur
    JiEunxD - Archosaur Posts: 220 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Lemuria - Harshlands wrote: »
    Most speed enhancements will NOT work with flight, they are ignored completely. The exceptions are genie skills specifically designed to enhance speed and Flight Mastery, which only works with the starter and elven wings.

    And yes, your total flight speed is Base Land Speed + Flight Speed. In the case of a cleric using fully upgraded Sparklebright wings, thats an unhasted speed of 7.3, hasted would be 9.8.

    Mounts are always faster. Arguably its a technical issue because of the farther distance visible when in flight, but more likely its to make mounts a bit more attractive as a means of transport.
    Are you sure the total flight speed is base land speed + flight speed? I am pretty sure it is 5.0 + flight speed. Nobody even uses haste anyways these days.
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    Mounts can be faster or slower depending on the situation. If you are on a mountain that is jagged, you would probably want to use an aerogear so you go in a linear path, not a curvy one.
    Also, going uphill is the same speed as going downhill (Jumping is always a factor).
    However, mounts work great on flat (or nearly flat) land, and they can go upwards of 11 m/s.
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  • fulgida
    fulgida Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    LloydAsplund - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Flying speed = 5 + speed of wings.

    In your case, you're flying at 7.5m/s
    Smobo - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    The reason you feed your wings for faster speed is for air PvP. The slightly faster speed matters when you're chasing someone/being chased.

    And I'm fairly certain, you fly 5.0m/s + the speed of your wings.

    I believe these two were correct.
  • Bridigan - Sanctuary
    Bridigan - Sanctuary Posts: 186 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    _Nei_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    If this is true then why do you fly soo dam slow with the reward wings at normal speed +0.50........ and why do you need to feed your wings to get the fast speed

    I find that flying feels slower when I'm high in the air, because the hight distorts my perception of my surroundings. Ever ridden in an airplane? You don't feel like you're going fast in those things, either, although really you're flying at high speeds.

    If I fly close to the ground, though I find I'm actually going faster than I would by walking, even with regular wings.

    It is true that a Veno with Summer Sprint on can run faster than a regular flying mount. But without speed buffs, the flying mount is faster, even if only by a little.
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  • Vixennia - Raging Tide
    Vixennia - Raging Tide Posts: 104 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Yes it may seem as though you are flying slowly but do like I said.

    Have someone start at same place as you on ground but have you on flight mount. Run forward for a few seconds. Trust me you on your flight mount will get there before the person going at regular run speed. You ARE going faster. It's just your perception from the air that makes it seem slow. (Refer to the airplane reference posted earlier, it's exactly right).
  • Xoria - Sanctuary
    Xoria - Sanctuary Posts: 419 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Lemuria - Harshlands wrote: »

    Mounts are always faster. Arguably its a technical issue because of the farther distance visible when in flight, but more likely its to make mounts a bit more attractive as a means of transport.

    Movement Speed + flying speed + *certain skills* = your speed.

    You can fly faster than a mount can run. Thus far, mounts are capped at 11m/s. Max travel speed is 15m/s. Tested in TW, back when I did them. My speed was following:

    4.8m/s (base) + 6.2 m/s (hasted of course) + .6 m/s from equipment = 11.6 m/s

    It looks like it wouldn't make a difference, but tell that to the mounts that I flew over and made it to the towers first.
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