Sage VS Demon

HolyInferno - Sanctuary
HolyInferno - Sanctuary Posts: 767 Arc User
edited June 2010 in Venomancer
This is probably the most critical decision that any player has to make for their character in PWI

SAGE or DEMON ?

Other class threads seem to have started this type of thread but I have failed to find one for us venomancers, although perhaps I missed something and if I did, I do apologize for being repetitive. I have looked at some of the skills that are avaialbe on pwdatabase.com and also have talked to people in my server who is reaching that point in the game and it seems if I generalize the point, it comes down to

Sage = % increase in attacks

Demon = % increase in crits.

I have a bit to go till this point but I really do want to make the best informed choice, as I am sure many of you do as well. Post your opinions and what you have gathered about this subject here :D.

*also, from observing the leaderboard, there are AT LEAST 20 venomancers in PWI who have reached this point and it'd be great to hear from them their personal experiences* b:victory
b:bye you were all swell peoples
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  • Just_cool - Lost City
    Just_cool - Lost City Posts: 372 Arc User
    edited January 2009
    i'd say Demon is slightly more about PVP, but it depends a lot on your build and your playing style, i can't really suggest u whether to go Demon or Sage, take a look at the skills adds and decide which fits best on you
    IMPORTANT note: u can't feel any difference between Demon or Sage or even none before u get some books, so also check the book prices and see if u can afford the ones u like
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  • Solandri - Heavens Tear
    Solandri - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,843 Arc User
    edited January 2009
    http://asiapworld.com/pw/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogcategory&id=48&Itemid=67

    Best site I've found for skill info. The skill names are different, but since the interface is graphical you should be able to figure out which skill is which. Holy = sage, dark = demon.
  • gades
    gades Posts: 12 Arc User
    edited January 2009
    I like this site http://www.ecatomb.net/skillpwi.php

    IMO I like demon skills better, they suit me more, though I REALLY don't need to crit more as I like my herc being able to hold aggro...
  • WindGaurdian - Sanctuary
    WindGaurdian - Sanctuary Posts: 326 Arc User
    edited January 2009
    Althought this is the Venomancer's thread, just wondering if you can become a hybrid. a cross between Sage/Demon or is it one path or the other?
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  • Yourmom - Lost City
    Yourmom - Lost City Posts: 1,655 Arc User
    edited January 2009
    Sage:
    Fox form gets a big bonus on pdef. You can switch to heavy armor and if you play right you don't die very much at all.
    Purge becomes an aoe buff wipe spell.
    Amp Damage does 30%.

    Demon:
    Fox form gives a speed boost, almost like using speed potions.
    Venom scarab reduces wood res 30%.
    Ironwood scarab sometimes reduces armor to 0.
    Summer Sprint gives immunity to movement debuffs.


    Basically the way I look at it, Sage makes you a great support player in pvp, you stay in fox form mostly to debuff and let other people do the killing.
    Demon makes you a damage dealer in pvp. Fox form to debuff then switch to mage to use spells. Ironwood kills their pdef so your pet deals tons of damage.


    PVE-who cares
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  • Spellbind - Lost City
    Spellbind - Lost City Posts: 66 Arc User
    edited January 2009
    "PVE-who cares"


    Lol, agreed. Even if you are on a PVE server, you still need to consider TW and what to do endgame. I'd rather be able to win TW than be able to solo all the baddest bosses.

    I kinda lean more towards Demon because of the fact that it gives you more damage overall. Venomancers need all the damage they can get to try and compete with mages, archers, and clerics.
  • Shiga - Sanctuary
    Shiga - Sanctuary Posts: 81 Arc User
    edited January 2009
    The way I have always seen it is that Sage is the way to go for Fox Form Veno's and Demon is the way to go for Mage Veno's
  • Just_cool - Lost City
    Just_cool - Lost City Posts: 372 Arc User
    edited January 2009
    WindGaurdian - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Althought this is the Venomancer's thread, just wondering if you can become a hybrid. a cross between Sage/Demon or is it one path or the other?

    once u chose Demon or Sage u can't go back and can't switch between
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  • doremi12
    doremi12 Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2009
    HolyInferno - Sanctuary wrote: »
    This is probably the most critical decision that any player has to make for their character in PWI

    SAGE or DEMON ?

    Other class threads seem to have started this type of thread but I have failed to find one for us venomancers, although perhaps I missed something and if I did, I do apologize for being repetitive. I have looked at some of the skills that are avaialbe on pwdatabase.com and also have talked to people in my server who is reaching that point in the game and it seems if I generalize the point, it comes down to

    Sage = % increase in attacks

    Demon = % increase in crits.

    I have a bit to go till this point but I really do want to make the best informed choice, as I am sure many of you do as well. Post your opinions and what you have gathered about this subject here :D.

    *also, from observing the leaderboard, there are AT LEAST 20 venomancers in PWI who have reached this point and it'd be great to hear from them their personal experiences* b:victory

    Sage for FB and TW
    Demon for PK
  • Finra - Sanctuary
    Finra - Sanctuary Posts: 137 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Im a light armor veno but I don't fight in fox form; having dex already I think it would be better to go Demon? Or should I balance it up and be a sage O:?
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  • Lythianaa - Dreamweaver
    Lythianaa - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,307 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Finra - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Im a light armor veno but I don't fight in fox form; having dex already I think it would be better to go Demon? Or should I balance it up and be a sage O:?

    Like this thread says, totally up to you. It's your character, and it would be great for you to make your own choice.
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  • Feruta - Heavens Tear
    Feruta - Heavens Tear Posts: 120 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Necrooooo!!!b:shocked

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